1. 07-29-12 06:46 PM #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaladarus View Post
    MMA? We talking about BJJ here. What does what I said there have to do with MMA? Google is your friend if you are interested in finding Rory's BJJ credentials. The BJJ credentials every other good MMA handicapper already knows about.
    You're saying that Rory Mcdonald has better BJJ credentials then the fastest black belt in history at that time (think it still is) as well as the first non-brazilian to win worlds at black belt ever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyX View Post
    It's all good dude. I know BJ is dangerous and he is a legend, however in my mind he belongs at 155lbs. We simply disagree on this fight, as I think Rory will walk through BJ, especially if this fight goes to the second or third.
    I think Penn fades midway 2nd round and Rory takes over winning a UD. I just don't think it will be a blowout, and this is coming from a big Rory supporter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crassus View Post
    You're saying that Rory Mcdonald has better BJJ credentials then the fastest black belt in history at that time (think it still is) as well as the first non-brazilian to win worlds at black belt ever?
    Well it took Penn 3 years to get his BB, so he can't be that great.
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    Kaladarus got retired from the internet in this thread, what a brutal e-beatdown
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    Kaladarus got retired from the internet in this thread, what a brutal e-beatdown
    lol think he was trolling to be honest. kaladrus generally knows his stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeFactoCrippler View Post
    Rory is clearly juicing. Probably gets it from the same source as gsp.

    As far as the fight goes, if BJ can't make Rory fear his power he is in real trouble. Even if his boxing is better than Rory's, BJ is at a 6.5 inch reach disadvantage which means if he is range to hit rory, he is definitely in range to get taken down. BJ doesn't have the footwork to be able to get inside Rory's reach and back out again without getting countered or taken down.

    If Rory can get walk through his punches he will be able to clinch easily and get taken down from there. BJ does not have the gas tank to move around effectively either. If he is somehow able to elude Rory with footwork he will only be able to do it for one round without gassing.
    Yeah that is what i basically see with this fight. If BJ wins it is in round one or early round two. I have no clue why he took this fight either. If i was a betting man i wouldn't waste my time betting Penn but i do think he will give Rory some trouble early.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubber Guard View Post
    How can you even say this? Guaranteed? Do you have inside info?

    I like Penn, but fact is, he sucks at 170. He looked real good vs. Fitch...then folded up. People say he will come in with better gas every fight he is in.
    Im saying he will come in good shape for BJ. You have him getting slammed all over mma sites for not being motivated. He is fighting a very hungry young guy who is starting to get cocky. You don't think that alone will make BJ train hard? IM not saying he will come in with a better gas tank cause that would be ridiculous. Im saying he will come in good enuf shape just because of all the bad press he is getting. Plus his little grudge with Tristar adds into this. BJ won't be coming into this fight looking like those first pictures that were posted. If this was Fitch again im not sure he would be that motivated. This is a young dangerous guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    Im saying he will come in good shape for BJ. You have him getting slammed all over mma sites for not being motivated. He is fighting a very hungry young guy who is starting to get cocky. You don't think that alone will make BJ train hard? IM not saying he will come in with a better gas tank cause that would be ridiculous. Im saying he will come in good enuf shape just because of all the bad press he is getting. Plus his little grudge with Tristar adds into this. BJ won't be coming into this fight looking like those first pictures that were posted. If this was Fitch again im not sure he would be that motivated. This is a young dangerous guy.
    I just don't feel like for a guy who has had many questions about his training and cardio....it is a great thing to "retire" get fat, then come back all of a sudden. What has he done different leading up to this fight? There are rumors he is going to AKA soon. But you don't just walk away from training like an MMA fighter to getting in shape within 2 months time. It really isn't that easy.

    For a guy like BJ, I think taking time off will only mess up his cardio.

    BJ at 155 isn't BJ at 170.

    He looked good for 1.5 rounds vs. Fitch. Was beaten up badly in the 3rd. And looked ashamed and done in the post fight interview. he comes back, fights Diaz, and gasses even harder....then "quits". His heart isn't in it anymore. I don't see how he can be more motivated for Rory, than he would have been for Fitch or Diaz.
    Also, I'm not a Rory fan. But what has he been cocky about? Maybe I missed something. Not sure how fight a "kid" with little to no resume is more motivation than fighting Fitch a guy who talked shit, still does, and was teh #2 WW in teh world. Or Diaz, who did his thing by getting in BJ's face and they have a history together. I don't see how fighting Rory MacDonald is close to the motivation he should have had for those fights. Guys with big resumes....big names...and who said a lot more to BJ than Rory ever has...
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    Bj said in his blog he is going to train at aka for a month but Fitch has been blocking him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubber Guard View Post
    I just don't feel like for a guy who has had many questions about his training and cardio....it is a great thing to "retire" get fat, then come back all of a sudden. What has he done different leading up to this fight? There are rumors he is going to AKA soon. But you don't just walk away from training like an MMA fighter to getting in shape within 2 months time. It really isn't that easy.

    For a guy like BJ, I think taking time off will only mess up his cardio.

    BJ at 155 isn't BJ at 170.

    He looked good for 1.5 rounds vs. Fitch. Was beaten up badly in the 3rd. And looked ashamed and done in the post fight interview. he comes back, fights Diaz, and gasses even harder....then "quits". His heart isn't in it anymore. I don't see how he can be more motivated for Rory, than he would have been for Fitch or Diaz.
    Also, I'm not a Rory fan. But what has he been cocky about? Maybe I missed something. Not sure how fight a "kid" with little to no resume is more motivation than fighting Fitch a guy who talked shit, still does, and was teh #2 WW in teh world. Or Diaz, who did his thing by getting in BJ's face and they have a history together. I don't see how fighting Rory MacDonald is close to the motivation he should have had for those fights. Guys with big resumes....big names...and who said a lot more to BJ than Rory ever has...
    Watch the press conference. Rory felt disrespected because BJ didn't show up. He said a few things i doubt BJ will take to kindly too. This kid can hurt ya. A guy like Fitch you know what you are gonna get. How many people does Fitch hurt? He wrestles ya to death and maybe gets a little ground and pound in. Rory will smash ya that is why i think BJ will come to fight (along with Rory being assosiated with Tristar and his comments). Im not looking for the best BJ we have ever seen i just think he will be in decent enuf shape to give a fight for two rounds. Like i said before i wouldn't bet BJ with someone else's money but that doesn't mean i don't think he will take this threat seriously.
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    Whatever way you want to put it, BJ is going to lose this fight. It is a stupid fight to agree to for Penn, and I hope he is making shit load of $$$, because that is the only reason I can justify him agreeing to fight Rory. Again, I am a Penn hater and I never saw what everyone else saw in him. Penn will be destroyed in this fight. Not only will he lose, he will get steamrolled and I will bet the house on it. As many people have said, Penn just doesn't have it anymore. No motivation, no cardio (never did) and at 170lbs he will be dwarfed in size compared to Rory. If Penn wants to come back, it should be at 155lbs, not 170lbs. Rory is going to hurt Penn, BAD. Rory is a in this fight. PERIOD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyX View Post
    Whatever way you want to put it, BJ is going to lose this fight. It is a stupid fight to agree to for Penn, and I hope he is making shit load of $$$, because that is the only reason I can justify him agreeing to fight Rory. Again, I am a Penn hater and I never saw what everyone else saw in him. Penn will be destroyed in this fight. Not only will he lose, he will get steamrolled and I will bet the house on it. As many people have said, Penn just doesn't have it anymore. No motivation, no cardio (never did) and at 170lbs he will be dwarfed in size compared to Rory. If Penn wants to come back, it should be at 155lbs, not 170lbs. Rory is going to hurt Penn, BAD. Rory is a in this fight. PERIOD.
    run along kid, the grown ups are talking
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyX View Post
    Whatever way you want to put it, BJ is going to lose this fight. It is a stupid fight to agree to for Penn, and I hope he is making shit load of $$$, because that is the only reason I can justify him agreeing to fight Rory. Again, I am a Penn hater and I never saw what everyone else saw in him. Penn will be destroyed in this fight. Not only will he lose, he will get steamrolled and I will bet the house on it. As many people have said, Penn just doesn't have it anymore. No motivation, no cardio (never did) and at 170lbs he will be dwarfed in size compared to Rory. If Penn wants to come back, it should be at 155lbs, not 170lbs. Rory is going to hurt Penn, BAD. Rory is a in this fight. PERIOD.
    I never understand why people make posts like this with the number of question marks that there are in MMA. I'm pretty sure you will be right, but you just know somebody is gonna quote you and berate the shit out of you if you're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyX View Post
    BJ is good on the ground, but when was the last time you have seen him use his grappling and BJJ..? BJ will be dwarfed by Rory in physical size, and that in itself will be a problem for Penn once this fight hits the mat. Rory has some of the best top control in MMA. On top of that, Rory is great on the ground if you haven't noticed, the dude is a wizard. He will also be the much stronger, and larger fighter by far. I think he will throw Penn around similar to Nate Diaz which will lead to his victory. Like someone else said, I don't even know why BJ would take this fight. He is outmatched here in every aspect imo.
    I am simply talking about BJJ credentials. I am a huge Penn fan but I agree that BJ will be dwarfed and probably mauled in this fight. He's much too small at 170. But BJJ cred. by itself BJ is second to very few
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan084 View Post
    I am simply talking about BJJ credentials. I am a huge Penn fan but I agree that BJ will be dwarfed and probably mauled in this fight. He's much too small at 170. But BJJ cred. by itself BJ is second to very few
    Exactly.. ^^^ My point is that I believe this fight is a complete mismatch. Rory is HUGE for a WW and prob. should be at MW and BJ is small for a WW and should be a LW. Adam, I agree that if I am wrong, I will indeed look like an ass and I will eat my words. However, I rarely make bold statements like the one above, unless I am really confident in my research and analysis. Example, when BJ fought Diaz, I knew or felt very strongly that Diaz would win. Samething in this case, I really just don't see how BJ wins this unless he KOs Rory early in the first. Once this hits the mat, BJ is done. If it goes into the deeper rounds, BJ will gas and it will be over with also. I give BJ a 15% chance at winning this fight. Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    run along kid, the grown ups are talking

    Dude, I have yet to see you explain why you think BJ will win...? How about you come with a decent breakdown and explain why you believe an old, unmotivated, and lazy BJ Penn is going to beat a 22 year old stud, that dwarfs BJ in size, in RoryMac??? You haven't explained dick except that you are a BJ nuthugger. I will bump this when Rory makes BJ his bitch, and then Penn will either accuse Rory of greasing or he will retire and run out of the ring crying like Forrest Griffin. Penn is going to get smashed, watch it happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyX View Post
    Dude, I have yet to see you explain why you think BJ will win...? How about you come with a decent breakdown and explain why you believe an old, unmotivated, and lazy BJ Penn is going to beat a 22 year old stud, that dwarfs BJ in size, in RoryMac??? You haven't explained dick except that you are a BJ nuthugger. I will bump this when Rory makes BJ his bitch, and then Penn will either accuse Rory of greasing or he will retire and run out of the ring crying like Forrest Griffin. Penn is going to get smashed, watch it happen.
    you know your insight and opinions are worthless right? When I see one of your posts I just imagine a monkey smearing his poop on the computer screen because thats about as effective as you are breaking down mma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    you know your insight and opinions are worthless right? When I see one of your posts I just imagine a monkey smearing his poop on the computer screen because thats about as effective as you are breaking down mma.
    And when most here see your posts they picture a guy taking it up the tailpipe or rubbing one out to gay porn. Deserved or not everyone gets a niche.

    I do however, hope your right about BJ.

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by downsouth View Post
    And when most here see your posts they picture a guy taking it up the tailpipe or rubbing one out to gay porn. Deserved or not everyone gets a niche.

    I do however, hope your right about BJ.

    Good luck
    Aren't you banned for scamming points? Nice to know gay porn is running through your head all day. Now run back the points section let the real men discuss mma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    you know your insight and opinions are worthless right? When I see one of your posts I just imagine a monkey smearing his poop on the computer screen because thats about as effective as you are breaking down mma.

    Again, you have yet to post anything with merit or insight on this horrible thread. "BJ is gonna Win". Great title and great breakdown. Who is this clown? This is a betting forum you retard, yet you don't even bet on MMA, and You never have. Mommy and Daddy prob. won't bankroll you and you don't make enough working at starbucks to bet. Post your lame ass, nuthugging threads in a different forum as this is the UFC BETTING forum. Hence, this is for people who actually put $$$ on fights. Someone tell this clown to go back to Sherdog.


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    TL;DR stop typing paragraphs dude, I'm not reading your shit anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    Aren't you banned for scamming points? Nice to know gay porn is running through your head all day. Now run back the points section let the real men discuss mma.

    Dude, I was thinking you were seriously a f*g before, but now I am sure you are really gay. You are a Purple-Pole-Puffer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    TL;DR stop typing paragraphs dude, I'm not reading your shit anymore
    Here ill break it down in little kids terms for you, since you can't read three sentences. YOUR THREAD ******* SUCKS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyX View Post
    Dude, I was thinking you were seriously a f*g before, but now I am sure you are really gay. You are a Purple-Pole-Puffer.




    cool this thread is gay now, surely you will stop posting in it now
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    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/boxing-mma...mma-picks.html


    There are two picks I gave out for free that CASHED EASILY and they weren't retarded -300 bets. Please post your successful write ups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    cool this thread is gay now, surely you will stop posting in it now
    No, it was gay from it's inception. Sorry, I forgot you are 12, i'll write in little kid language - This thread was gay from the start.
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    cant go back to sherdog because im banned but you obviously came from there

    http://www.sherdog.net/forums/members/dirtyx/

    next time when trying to make "fun" of someone and telling them to "go back to sherdog" make sure you didnt use the same name there too. I'm done with you kid. You're too easy to own.
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    seems like you need to go back to sherdog you just logged in over there 2 weeks ago. I've been banned since 2010.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/boxing-mma...mma-picks.html


    There are two picks I gave out for free that CASHED EASILY and they weren't retarded -300 bets. Please post your successful write ups.


    Well for starters I cashed the following the last three weeks:

    Weidman over Munoz - $200.00

    Larkin over Lawler - $300.00

    Barao over Faber - $200.00

    Those are three in a row, without a loss, and they wern't "retarded -300 bets, BRA". And I actually put $$$ on those fights and cashed. you don't even bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyX View Post
    Well for starters I cashed the following the last three weeks:

    Weidman over Munoz - $200.00

    Larkin over Lawler - $300.00

    Barao over Faber - $200.00

    Those are three in a row, without a loss, and they wern't "retarded -300 bets, BRA". And I actually put $$$ on those fights and cashed. you don't even bet.
    links???


    oh and this
    LOL

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    GO back to sherdog brah, they miss you over there

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    where is wannabet and fosho??? and what happened to that adam bowman character?

    i need some entertainment lol.
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    Look everyone DirtX won 900 dollars and wants all his sherdog friends to pat him on the back.

    http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/ufc...-bets-1985083/
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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    where is wannabet and fosho??? and what happened to that adam bowman character?

    i need some entertainment lol.
    all the same person, but i just retired dirtX, he hung himself with that sherdog comment
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    Dude, WTF is your point? What??? I am a member of Sherdog... You were too, and then got banned like a douche.
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