The Ultimate Fighter 27 Finale | July 6, 2018
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KermitBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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ThrillaSBR Posting Legend
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#216Who are the ones with the best take downs in Israel's division and who are the best wrestlers?Comment -
turbozedSBR MVP
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#217Watched Adesanya/Tavares tape today and think Adesanya is the right side now that the lines are closer to even. Can't be too big on Israel though because this is a 5 rounder and I'm not sure how Israel is going to look in rounds 4 and 5 if it gets there.
Although Vettori is not as skilled of a fighter as Tavares all around, I think he might have been a worse style matchup for Israel since Vettori brings more pressure and is a bit tougher. He also has second level attack after his first combo (either going for a takedown or throwing another combo) whereas Tavares pretty much has one salvo in every exchange. Tavares is bit more accurate and has a faster trigger. Unless Tavares has a great pressure offensive wrestling game that he's been keeping in his pocket all these years, I don't think he can bring the same type of pressure and pace that Vettori brought.
Israel did look like he had at least another round in him in the Vettori fight but maybe would have given ground a bit due to Vettori's pace and maybe might have let himself get taken down. I don't think Israel by decision is out of the question as the lines suggest, but agree that a stoppage is more likely for Israel. Some of those clean shots that Vettori took looked like trouble if landing on Tavares' chin. Tavares also dashes into his strikes, which is going to be necessary to overcome the reach disadvantage, but is going to be very dangerous against an accurate counter-striker like Israel. I can see Tavares overextending himself with an overhand right and eating a flush knee, for example.
Even with a decent sense of the matchup, I'm having a hard time thinking of ways to play this besides the ML. I'll wait until the o/u and round props come out, but would like your opinions.Comment -
ThrillaSBR Posting Legend
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#218Does this mean Vettori is better than Tavares?Comment -
KermitBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#220Israel Adesayna vs Derek Brunson next ... book itComment -
turbozedSBR MVP
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#225Tavares is just a better style matchup for Israel. But Tavares is all around better than Vettori IMO. If the two fought, Tavares would beat Vettori in striking exchanges and Vettori would fail on all his attempts to grapple.Comment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
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#226I felt the same way. I did get worried when the line swung to Tavares like the books knew of an injury or some shitComment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
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#227I think he does about the same type of beating on Brunson as he did on Tavares. Might even knock him out. He is starting to look like that other 185er who dominated for years. I’m sure Dana loves his cocky shit too loll.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#231Probably would knock out Brunson.. Tavares took some shots that most other fighters could not take...Comment -
firekillexSBR Hall of Famer
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#232Israel saying hell be watching the fight tomorrow night with Hall vs New Vitor and wants the winner of that.. guess he wants to get his feet wet a bit more before getting near the top 5Comment -
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#233Yeah that was awesome watching Adesanya put on a clinic. I enjoyed the De La Rosa/Ostovich fight (and not just because of the titties). I also enjoyed Violent Bob Ross. Did you guys see those marks all over his body? What was that?Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#234The Ultimate Fighter 27 Finale: Adesanya vs. Tavares Picks:
Gerald Meerschaert Round 1 [Technical] Submission (Arm-Triangle Choke)
Steven Peterson Round 2 TKO (Punches)
Tyler Diamond Round 3 TKO (Punches)
Allan Zuniga Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
Luis Pena Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Montana De La Rosa Round 3 Submission (Armbar)
Julian Marquez Round 2 TKO (Punches)
Barb Honchak Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Martin Bravo Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
Brad Katona Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
Joe Giannetti Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Israel Adesanya Round 2 TKO (Punches)Comment -
turbozedSBR MVP
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#235I don't go back on my bets very often and got a good price on Tavares. But after we talked I thought about it more and just couldn't see Tavares fighting any different than he usually fights which as we saw equals a terrible style matchup. So thanks for that bro.
Israel might be the best muay thai to mma stylist I've seen and I'm a huge fan. From the feints, defense, and footwork, he's got the slickness of a Jocky Gym guy.
Israel is black SaenchaiComment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#236The Ultimate Fighter 27 Finale: Adesanya vs. Tavares
Fight Pass Prelims:
Fight #1: Piechota vs. Meerschaert
Meerschaert (+270) +2.7u
Meerschaert ITD (+380) +3.8u
Hedge:
Piechota Submission (+605) -.5u
Result: Gerald Meerschaert Round 2 Technical Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Fight: +6u
Card: +6u
Fight #2: Peterson vs. Bessette
Peterson ITD (+300) -1u
Peterson KO/TKO (+560) -.5u
Result: Steven Peterson Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Fight: -1.5u
Card: +4.5u
Fox Sports 1 Prelims:
Fight #3: Diamond (DEBUT) vs. Mitchell (DEBUT)
Diamond ITD (+305) -1u
Added:
Diamond (+120) -2.5u
Result: Bryce Mitchell Majority Decision (29-28 x2, 28-28)
Fight: -3.5u
Card: +1u
Fight #4: Zuniga (DEBUT) vs. Gunther (DEBUT)
Zuniga (+135) -1.5u
Result: John Gunther Majority Decision (29-28 x2, 28-28)
Fight: -1.5u
Card: -0.5u
Fight #5: Pena (DEBUT) vs. Smullen (DEBUT)
Pena Submission (+270) +4.725u
Result: Luis Pena Round 1 Submission (Mounted Guillotine Choke)
Fight: +4.725u
Card: +4.225u
Fight #6: De La Rosa vs. Ostovich
De La Rosa+Ostovich Won’t Go Distance (+145) +1.45u
De La Rosa -3.5 (+145) +1.45u
De La Rosa Submission (+370) +1.35u
Result: Montana De La Rosa Round 3 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Fight: +4.25u
Card: +8.475u
Main Card:
Fight #7: Marquez vs. Di Chirico
Marquez Submission (+605) -.5u
Result: Alessio Di Chirico Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Fight: -0.5u
Card: +7.975u
Fight #8: Modafferi vs. Honchak
No Bet
Result: Roxanne Modafferi Round 2 TKO (Elbows)
Fight #9: Bravo vs. Caceres
Bravo (+105) -2u
Result: Alex Caceres Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Fight: -2u
Card: +5.975u
Fight #10: Katona (DEBUT) vs. Cucciniello (DEBUT)
No Bet
Result: Brad Katona Unanimous Decision (30-26 x3)
Fight #11: Giannetti (DEBUT) vs. Trizano (DEBUT)
No Bet
Result: Mike Trizano Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Fight #12: Adesanya vs. Tavares
Adesanya (-124) +4u
Result: Israel Adesanya Unanimous Decision (50-45 x2, 49-46)
Fight: +4u
Card: +9.975u
Straight Parlays:
Katona+Cucciniello O2.5/Giannetti/Adesanya (+421) -.5u
Marquez/Honchak/Bravo (+523) -.5u
Meerschaert/Peterson/Zuniga (+1400) -.5u
Results: See Above
Fights: -1.5u
Card: +8.475u
Prop Parlays:
Diamond/Pena ITD/De La Rosa+Ostovich WGD (+476) -.5u
Results: See Above
Fights: -.5u
Results: +7.975u
Full Card Props:
None
FOTN: Caceres+Bravo
POTN: Adesanya, Pena
Fastest Submission: Pena R1 (3:32)
Fastest KO: Modafferi R2 (3:32)
Decisions: 8
Results: See Above
Fights: +0u
Final Card Total = +7.975uLast edited by Hugo de Naranja; 07-07-18, 12:23 PM.Comment -
Hugo de NaranjaSBR Posting Legend
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#237I don't go back on my bets very often and got a good price on Tavares. But after we talked I thought about it more and just couldn't see Tavares fighting any different than he usually fights which as we saw equals a terrible style matchup. So thanks for that bro.
Israel might be the best muay thai to mma stylist I've seen and I'm a huge fan. From the feints, defense, and footwork, he's got the slickness of a Jocky Gym guy.
Israel is black SaenchaiComment -
ShagdogySBR MVP
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PAULYPOKERBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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That was clearly rehearsed........Last edited by PAULYPOKER; 07-08-18, 01:02 PM.Comment -
ShagdogySBR MVP
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YTD: 88-76, +19.76u
Event Total: 11-9Comment
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