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  • Kermit
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    #211
    Originally posted by JIBBBY
    Isreal maybe the real deal..
    He is. He's slick as Hell on the ground too.
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    • Richard Clock
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      #212
      Originally posted by Kermit
      Should be an easy 50-45.
      49-46 is pretty asinine. Felt like the last few rounds could have been 10-8s
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      • Thrilla
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        #213
        Originally posted by turbozed
        Israel with the next level striking. Looked like black Saenchai out there.

        The hype is real. Was favorite in all three UFC fights though.
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        • Kermit
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          #214
          Originally posted by Richard Clock
          49-46 is pretty asinine. Felt like the last few rounds could have been 10-8s
          Yeah, he landed some big shots, but Taveres took them well. That huge knee that Israel landed in the 3rd round would have finished most fighters in that weight class.
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          • JIBBBY
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            #215
            Originally posted by Kermit
            He is. He's slick as Hell on the ground too.
            Yup I won't fade him in the future.. I'll remember that..
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            • Thrilla
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              #216
              Who are the ones with the best take downs in Israel's division and who are the best wrestlers?
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              • turbozed
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                #217
                Originally posted by turbozed
                Watched Adesanya/Tavares tape today and think Adesanya is the right side now that the lines are closer to even. Can't be too big on Israel though because this is a 5 rounder and I'm not sure how Israel is going to look in rounds 4 and 5 if it gets there.

                Although Vettori is not as skilled of a fighter as Tavares all around, I think he might have been a worse style matchup for Israel since Vettori brings more pressure and is a bit tougher. He also has second level attack after his first combo (either going for a takedown or throwing another combo) whereas Tavares pretty much has one salvo in every exchange. Tavares is bit more accurate and has a faster trigger. Unless Tavares has a great pressure offensive wrestling game that he's been keeping in his pocket all these years, I don't think he can bring the same type of pressure and pace that Vettori brought.

                Israel did look like he had at least another round in him in the Vettori fight but maybe would have given ground a bit due to Vettori's pace and maybe might have let himself get taken down. I don't think Israel by decision is out of the question as the lines suggest, but agree that a stoppage is more likely for Israel. Some of those clean shots that Vettori took looked like trouble if landing on Tavares' chin. Tavares also dashes into his strikes, which is going to be necessary to overcome the reach disadvantage, but is going to be very dangerous against an accurate counter-striker like Israel. I can see Tavares overextending himself with an overhand right and eating a flush knee, for example.

                Even with a decent sense of the matchup, I'm having a hard time thinking of ways to play this besides the ML. I'll wait until the o/u and round props come out, but would like your opinions.
                Very rarely do things play out the way I call them. Glad this one did!
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                • Thrilla
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                  #218
                  Does this mean Vettori is better than Tavares?
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                  • Kermit
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                    Yup I won't fade him in the future.. I'll remember that..
                    He was one of the more confident bets that I've made in quite some time. I didn't have a ton on him, but I felt very good about laying a bet on him and felt like it was a lock.
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                    • firekillex
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                      #220
                      Israel Adesayna vs Derek Brunson next ... book it
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                      • firekillex
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                        #221
                        Originally posted by Thrilla
                        Who are the ones with the best take downs in Israel's division and who are the best wrestlers?
                        weidman, Jacare, Romero
                        not a ton of wrestlers at the top of 85 who will be around much longer... Israel only 28
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                        • Kermit
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                          #222
                          Originally posted by Thrilla
                          Does this mean Vettori is better than Tavares?
                          Hard to say. Tavares went 5 rounds with Israel and Vettori only went 3.
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                          • Kermit
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                            #223
                            Originally posted by firekillex
                            Israel Adesayna vs Derek Brunson next ... book it
                            Sounds about right.
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                            • Thor4140
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                              #224
                              Originally posted by Thor4140
                              If u are a terrible judge this could be two two. Round 1 close round 4 a takedown
                              One guy had it 49-46 lol
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                              • turbozed
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                                #225
                                Originally posted by Thrilla
                                Does this mean Vettori is better than Tavares?
                                Tavares is just a better style matchup for Israel. But Tavares is all around better than Vettori IMO. If the two fought, Tavares would beat Vettori in striking exchanges and Vettori would fail on all his attempts to grapple.
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                                • Thor4140
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                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by Kermit
                                  He was one of the more confident bets that I've made in quite some time. I didn't have a ton on him, but I felt very good about laying a bet on him and felt like it was a lock.
                                  I felt the same way. I did get worried when the line swung to Tavares like the books knew of an injury or some shit
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                                  • Thor4140
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                                    #227
                                    Originally posted by firekillex
                                    Israel Adesayna vs Derek Brunson next ... book it
                                    I think he does about the same type of beating on Brunson as he did on Tavares. Might even knock him out. He is starting to look like that other 185er who dominated for years. I’m sure Dana loves his cocky shit too loll.
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                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                      #228
                                      Originally posted by the1yankee
                                      muchos gracias Hugo Di nero

                                      -3.5 De La Rosa
                                      Fuckk yeah bro
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                                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                        Israel Adesayna vs Derek Brunson next ... book it
                                        Brunson just got injured. Pulled out of a scheduled fight with ACJ
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                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                          #230
                                          Originally posted by turbozed
                                          Very rarely do things play out the way I call them. Glad this one did!
                                          Nailed it. #MaxBetSeason
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                                          • JIBBBY
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                                            #231
                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                            I think he does about the same type of beating on Brunson as he did on Tavares. Might even knock him out. He is starting to look like that other 185er who dominated for years. I’m sure Dana loves his cocky shit too loll.
                                            Probably would knock out Brunson.. Tavares took some shots that most other fighters could not take...
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                                            • firekillex
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                                              #232
                                              Israel saying hell be watching the fight tomorrow night with Hall vs New Vitor and wants the winner of that.. guess he wants to get his feet wet a bit more before getting near the top 5
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                                              • Teem
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                                                #233
                                                Yeah that was awesome watching Adesanya put on a clinic. I enjoyed the De La Rosa/Ostovich fight (and not just because of the titties). I also enjoyed Violent Bob Ross. Did you guys see those marks all over his body? What was that?
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                                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                  #234
                                                  The Ultimate Fighter 27 Finale: Adesanya vs. Tavares Picks:
                                                  Gerald Meerschaert Round 1 [Technical] Submission (Arm-Triangle Choke)
                                                  Steven Peterson Round 2 TKO (Punches)
                                                  Tyler Diamond Round 3 TKO (Punches)
                                                  Allan Zuniga Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
                                                  Luis Pena Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                                  Montana De La Rosa Round 3 Submission (Armbar)
                                                  Julian Marquez Round 2 TKO (Punches)
                                                  Barb Honchak Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                                                  Martin Bravo Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                                                  Brad Katona Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                                                  Joe Giannetti Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                                  Israel Adesanya Round 2 TKO (Punches)
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                                                  • turbozed
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                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                    Nailed it. #MaxBetSeason
                                                    I don't go back on my bets very often and got a good price on Tavares. But after we talked I thought about it more and just couldn't see Tavares fighting any different than he usually fights which as we saw equals a terrible style matchup. So thanks for that bro.

                                                    Israel might be the best muay thai to mma stylist I've seen and I'm a huge fan. From the feints, defense, and footwork, he's got the slickness of a Jocky Gym guy.

                                                    Israel is black Saenchai
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                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                      #236
                                                      The Ultimate Fighter 27 Finale: Adesanya vs. Tavares

                                                      Fight Pass Prelims:

                                                      Fight #1: Piechota vs. Meerschaert
                                                      Meerschaert (+270) +2.7u
                                                      Meerschaert ITD (+380) +3.8u

                                                      Hedge:
                                                      Piechota Submission (+605) -.5u

                                                      Result: Gerald Meerschaert Round 2 Technical Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                                      Fight: +6u
                                                      Card: +6u

                                                      Fight #2: Peterson vs. Bessette
                                                      Peterson ITD (+300) -1u
                                                      Peterson KO/TKO (+560) -.5u

                                                      Result: Steven Peterson Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                                                      Fight: -1.5u
                                                      Card: +4.5u

                                                      Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

                                                      Fight #3: Diamond (DEBUT) vs. Mitchell (DEBUT)
                                                      Diamond ITD (+305) -1u

                                                      Added:
                                                      Diamond (+120) -2.5u

                                                      Result: Bryce Mitchell Majority Decision (29-28 x2, 28-28)
                                                      Fight: -3.5u
                                                      Card: +1u

                                                      Fight #4: Zuniga (DEBUT) vs. Gunther (DEBUT)
                                                      Zuniga (+135) -1.5u

                                                      Result: John Gunther Majority Decision (29-28 x2, 28-28)
                                                      Fight: -1.5u
                                                      Card: -0.5u

                                                      Fight #5: Pena (DEBUT) vs. Smullen (DEBUT)
                                                      Pena Submission (+270) +4.725u

                                                      Result: Luis Pena Round 1 Submission (Mounted Guillotine Choke)
                                                      Fight: +4.725u
                                                      Card: +4.225u

                                                      Fight #6: De La Rosa vs. Ostovich
                                                      De La Rosa+Ostovich Won’t Go Distance (+145) +1.45u
                                                      De La Rosa -3.5 (+145) +1.45u
                                                      De La Rosa Submission (+370) +1.35u

                                                      Result: Montana De La Rosa Round 3 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                                                      Fight: +4.25u
                                                      Card: +8.475u

                                                      Main Card:

                                                      Fight #7: Marquez vs. Di Chirico
                                                      Marquez Submission (+605) -.5u

                                                      Result: Alessio Di Chirico Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                                                      Fight: -0.5u
                                                      Card: +7.975u

                                                      Fight #8: Modafferi vs. Honchak
                                                      No Bet

                                                      Result: Roxanne Modafferi Round 2 TKO (Elbows)

                                                      Fight #9: Bravo vs. Caceres
                                                      Bravo (+105) -2u

                                                      Result: Alex Caceres Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
                                                      Fight: -2u
                                                      Card: +5.975u

                                                      Fight #10: Katona (DEBUT) vs. Cucciniello (DEBUT)
                                                      No Bet

                                                      Result: Brad Katona Unanimous Decision (30-26 x3)

                                                      Fight #11: Giannetti (DEBUT) vs. Trizano (DEBUT)
                                                      No Bet

                                                      Result: Mike Trizano Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)

                                                      Fight #12: Adesanya vs. Tavares
                                                      Adesanya (-124) +4u

                                                      Result: Israel Adesanya Unanimous Decision (50-45 x2, 49-46)
                                                      Fight: +4u
                                                      Card: +9.975u

                                                      Straight Parlays:
                                                      Katona+Cucciniello O2.5/Giannetti/Adesanya (+421) -.5u
                                                      Marquez/Honchak/Bravo (+523) -.5u
                                                      Meerschaert/Peterson/Zuniga (+1400) -.5u

                                                      Results: See Above
                                                      Fights: -1.5u
                                                      Card: +8.475u

                                                      Prop Parlays:
                                                      Diamond/Pena ITD/De La Rosa+Ostovich WGD (+476) -.5u

                                                      Results: See Above
                                                      Fights: -.5u
                                                      Results: +7.975u

                                                      Full Card Props:
                                                      None

                                                      FOTN: Caceres+Bravo
                                                      POTN: Adesanya, Pena
                                                      Fastest Submission: Pena R1 (3:32)
                                                      Fastest KO: Modafferi R2 (3:32)
                                                      Decisions: 8
                                                      Results: See Above
                                                      Fights: +0u
                                                      Final Card Total = +7.975u
                                                      Last edited by Hugo de Naranja; 07-07-18, 12:23 PM.
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                                                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                        #237
                                                        Originally posted by turbozed
                                                        I don't go back on my bets very often and got a good price on Tavares. But after we talked I thought about it more and just couldn't see Tavares fighting any different than he usually fights which as we saw equals a terrible style matchup. So thanks for that bro.

                                                        Israel might be the best muay thai to mma stylist I've seen and I'm a huge fan. From the feints, defense, and footwork, he's got the slickness of a Jocky Gym guy.

                                                        Israel is black Saenchai
                                                        Definitely like the Saenchai comp.
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                                                        • Sanity Check
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                                                          • 03-30-13
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                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by Teem
                                                          Did you guys see those marks all over his body? What was that?
                                                          hot cup therapy(whatever they call it)

                                                          Cupping therapy is an ancient healing method that may ease pain. WebMD explains the possible benefits and risks of cupping therapy, a form of alternative medicine.
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                                                          • Shagdogy
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                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                            hot cup therapy(whatever they call it)

                                                            https://www.webmd.com/balance/guide/cupping-therapy
                                                            Nah. Not on Pena. There was definitely some kind of skin issue going on.
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                                                            • PAULYPOKER
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                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                              There is one thing I know for sure........


                                                              If CORMIER beats MIOCIC, the Ultimate Fighter series is shady at best.........

                                                              Anyone watch that owners vs owners UF season?
                                                              That was BS to the max.............
                                                              Did you all see Cormier turn full WWE 0n Lesnar after fight?"?

                                                              That was clearly rehearsed........
                                                              Last edited by PAULYPOKER; 07-08-18, 01:02 PM.
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                                                              • PAULYPOKER
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                                                                #241
                                                                Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                                There is one thing I know for sure........


                                                                If CORMIER beats MIOCIC, the Ultimate Fighter series is shady at best.........

                                                                Anyone watch that owners vs owners UF season?
                                                                That was BS to the max.............



                                                                Did you all see Cormier turn full WWE 0n Lesnar after fight?"?

                                                                That was clearly rehearsed........


                                                                #93



                                                                #240




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                                                                • Shagdogy
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                                                                  #242
                                                                  Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                                  Pena + Piechota parlay -119, 3u to win 2.52u
                                                                  Pena + Katona parlay -122, 2u to win 1.64u
                                                                  Trizano +150, 1u to win 1.5u
                                                                  Marquez -140, 1u to win .71u
                                                                  Tavares -105 (bad line I know), 1.05u to win 1u

                                                                  Good luck everyone!
                                                                  Card Total: 2-3, -1.91u

                                                                  YTD: 88-76, +19.76u

                                                                  Event Total: 11-9
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