[DirtyX]

Something to keep in mind:

Damien Maia beat Mark Munoz, but Munoz stole the decision. I made $ on Munoz, so I was thrilled, but I knew going into the decision that Maia had beat him. Weidman, on the other hand, on something like 10 days notice stepped in against Damien Maia and beat him, convincingly, while gassed out throughout most of the match-up.

I don't think Munoz will put him away. "I think Weidman takes this, boys." -Big Day's voice

Ah.... MMA math at it's best. Your post has no point. What...? Since Weidmen beat Maia, he beats Munoz, who also beat Maia...? Even if Weidmen smashed Maia, and Munoz got smashed by Maia, that doesn't necessarily mean Weidmen beats Munoz. I think Weidmen wins this fight, via being better everywhere except power. Maia and Munoz couldn't be more different fighters style wise. I once posted that you do know your MMA, however I am starting to question that after reading this horrible post.

[Vaughany]

Ah.... MMA math at it's best. Your post has no point. What...? Since Weidmen beat Maia, he beats Munoz, who also beat Maia...? Even if Weidmen smashed Maia, and Munoz got smashed by Maia, that doesn't necessarily mean Weidmen beats Munoz. I think Weidmen wins this fight, via being better everywhere except power. Maia and Munoz couldn't be more different fighters style wise. I once posted that you do know your MMA, however I am starting to question that after reading this horrible post.

lol I thought u wer joking when u sed tht before!

[DirtyX]

lol I thought u wer joking when u sed tht before!

I wasn't joking at the time... But now -

[GunShard]

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[Vaughany]

Paddypower released lines for Dos Anjos and Te-Huna fights. Dos ANjos was at -137.5 but now at -175 and Te Huna is at -350

[AdamB]

How do people feel about Caceres? Hard to say without a line, but I've liked him since he held his own for a surprising amount of time on the ground against Hettes - have been siding with him since then (the ball kicking double point deduction still hurts, but I admit even a 1 point deduction would have probably made it a draw). Need to look at some tape of Page, because outside of the barn burner against Pickett I don't remember much about him.

[PunisherIND]

Paddypower released lines for Dos Anjos and Te-Huna fights. Dos ANjos was at -137.5 but now at -175 and Te Huna is at -350

Damn thats steep on te huna.

[PunisherIND]

How do people feel about Caceres? Hard to say without a line, but I've liked him since he held his own for a surprising amount of time on the ground against Hettes - have been siding with him since then (the ball kicking double point deduction still hurts, but I admit even a 1 point deduction would have probably made it a draw). Need to look at some tape of Page, because outside of the barn burner against Pickett I don't remember much about him.

I can't stand caceras, but that has nothing to do with his skills. I just want to slap that smile off his face.

[AdamB]

I can't stand caceras, but that has nothing to do with his skills. I just want to slap that smile off his face.

Ha, yeah, I wasn't saying I liked him as a person. The guy was incredibly annoying on TUF.

[Vaughany]

Expect Simpson, Carmont lines to get action, probably Dos Anjos and Te-Huna as well. Vaughan Lee at +285 will probably go down to +250 or something

[terpkeg]

Not sure what Simpson brings at 170 except less power and more decline in athleticism due to age. Was against Robertson big against Pierce, but more time for young guy to develop has me favoring him here. I took +225 when it briefly jumped up.

[Beelzebubzy]

Damn missed the opener on carmont

[Vaughany]

May have to pay Vemola if the line keeps getting higher...at +175 now on Pinnacle. Hopefully hits +200 by tomorro

[Vitooch]

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[Beelzebubzy]

May have to pay Vemola if the line keeps getting higher...at +175 now on Pinnacle. Hopefully hits +200 by tomorro

Can't blame you on that. Carmont should be able to take this to the ground and sub him
Does karlos drop to 170 if he loses?

[DeFactoCrippler]

May have to pay Vemola if the line keeps getting higher...at +175 now on Pinnacle. Hopefully hits +200 by tomorro

Yeah, I don't blame you. Vemola has that "eye of the tiger".

[Vaughany]

He's still seems a bit raw and gets casual at times. Vemola isnt the kind of guy you wanna be casual with! Didnt Cedenblad take him down immediately in to mount then take his back in the first round of their fight? Think Carmont reversed him but then got reversed again just before the bell. Cedenblad certainly won tht first round anyway. Vemola will be the biggest and strongest wrestler that Carmont has faced not only in UFC career so far but probably ever (even if Vemola's wrestling isnt as great as some perhaps thought). If Carmont ends up underneath Vemola or has his back taken I don't think he'll be able to take the power punches of Vemola. Really dont like betting against Zahabi guys like Carmont, especially when GSP is in his corner!

[The Bet Master]

Ridiculous that Bruce Leroy is in the Facebook fights. Kid is entertaining whether you like him or not. Anyone see a line for that fight yet?

[Vaughany]

No line yet

[DirtyX]

How do people feel about Caceres? Hard to say without a line, but I've liked him since he held his own for a surprising amount of time on the ground against Hettes - have been siding with him since then (the ball kicking double point deduction still hurts, but I admit even a 1 point deduction would have probably made it a draw). Need to look at some tape of Page, because outside of the barn burner against Pickett I don't remember much about him.

I would favor Demacio Page over LeRoy. His power, and his standup are brutal, well in the first round anyways. I always fade LeRoy, as I think he sucks and doesn't belong in the UFC. I think Caceres is way over-rated and although he may be entertaining, I don't think he has the skills to be in the UFC, especially at 135-145lbs divsions. He would get streamrolled by anyone in the top ten imo. If Alex can survive the first round, I could see him subbing Page later in the fight or possibly grinding out a decision. All of Page's last three losses have come via sub/Choke, and that worries me a little bit, but my money would be on Page, all the way. I predict a brutal KO in the first. I also think Page will come in with a better game plan and play it safe to secure the win. If he loses, he get's cut from the UFC me thinks. I want to speculate what the line should be at, but I'll wait until it is out.

[DirtyX]

Ridiculous that Bruce Leroy is in the Facebook fights. Kid is entertaining whether you like him or not. Anyone see a line for that fight yet?

No, he belongs on the facebook fights. This kid needs to be cut imo. The kid hasn't done shit besides win a decision over Cole Escovedo. He has lost 3 out of his last 4 fights in the UFC and he has lost 5 out of his last 7 fights. He is an over-hyped TUF alumni that thinks he is Bruce Lee. Page will expose him tomorrow.

[gabe]

DirtyX, you don't know what you're talking about. What else is new?

Bruce LeRoy dominated Cole Escovedo for three rounds. He also beat up Edwin Figureuoa for three rounds, but lost due to hpoor reffing and judging. Edwin was considered one of the best 135ers in the UFC and LeRoy made kicking his ass look easy.

His only real losses were due to being undersized. He did well until he got submitted. He has never looked bad in a loss. Again, you really don't know what youre talking about.

[gabe]

Ah.... MMA math at it's best. Your post has no point. What...? Since Weidmen beat Maia, he beats Munoz, who also beat Maia...? Even if Weidmen smashed Maia, and Munoz got smashed by Maia, that doesn't necessarily mean Weidmen beats Munoz. I think Weidmen wins this fight, via being better everywhere except power. Maia and Munoz couldn't be more different fighters style wise. I once posted that you do know your MMA, however I am starting to question that after reading this horrible post.

You're an idiot. Did I say Weidman will beat Munoz, or did I say all that was just something to keep in mind?

It's irrelevant what you think about me, you clearly don't know squat about MMA/MMA capping. Saying Bruce LeRoy doesn't belong in the UFC when in reality the kid is underrated. You're just a fool, not to be taken seriously.

[Sato]

Hey guys!

Im liking Carmont, Simpson, Te-Huna and Weidman.

The Vaughn Lee line makes me happy...

[gabe]

lol I thought u wer joking when u sed tht before!

You don't think I know my shit, V?

That must mean it really hurt you every time I had a better night than you and every time we bet on opposing fighters and you lost. If you don't think i know my shit, then you're out of your mind. Whenever we've bet on opposing fighters, I've been on the winning side almost every time. So I guess it's irrelevant what you think. Keep making your arbs.

[Vaughany]

DirtyX, you don't know what you're talking about. What else is new?

Bruce LeRoy dominated Cole Escovedo for three rounds. He also beat up Edwin Figureuoa for three rounds, but lost due to hpoor reffing and judging. Edwin was considered one of the best 135ers in the UFC and LeRoy made kicking his ass look easy.

His only real losses were due to being undersized. He did well until he got submitted. He has never looked bad in a loss. Again, you really don't know what youre talking about.

Who considered Figueroa one of the best 135ers?!

Bruce LeRoy isnt tht bad tho to be fair, I also thought he was a complete clown and another Cody McKenzie gimmick type TUF reject but he has shown some clear improvement.

[Vaughany]

You don't think I know my shit, V?

That must mean it really hurt you every time I had a better night than you and every time we bet on opposing fighters and you lost. If you don't think i know my shit, then you're out of your mind. Whenever we've bet on opposing fighters, I've been on the winning side almost every time. So I guess it's irrelevant what you think. Keep making your arbs.

Didnt say tht did I? I just thought DirtyX and BetMasta were beefing with you at the time so he was being ironic when he said u know ur stuff!

[Beelzebubzy]

No, he belongs on the facebook fights. This kid needs to be cut imo. The kid hasn't done shit besides win a decision over Cole Escovedo. He has lost 3 out of his last 4 fights in the UFC and he has lost 5 out of his last 7 fights. He is an over-hyped TUF alumni that thinks he is Bruce Lee. Page will expose him tomorrow.

Disagree

Besides getting rocked against fig, he did quite well. I actually scored the win for him 28-27
he stuffed cOles takedowns and outstruck him. He has shown great improvements and great grappling.
Leroy by sub is my pick
Page throws wil haymakers I expect Leroy to jab him quickly and frequently

[Vaughany]

Guimaraes at -345 Was hoping he'd be undervalued

[Beelzebubzy]

Guimaraes at -345 Was hoping he'd be undervalued

Damnit
ill parlay him and jones and rousey

[Doerksenfan]

STRAIGHT BET

• MU -07/11/2012 @ 02:15 PM
• [24191] ISSEI TAMURA PK+150
  (ISSEI TAMURA vrs RAPHAEL ASSUNCAO)

$50.00To Win:$75.00
Ticket #: 121321464

Jumped on Tamura, may do a bit more, but I think he has a really good chance here. Stunned that he opened at +220 on Sportsbook, but I'll take what I can get.

I think Tamura has really good sub defense and a smothering top game, and to my surprise, he may have some power in his hands if the Zhang KO is any indication. Assuncao may be a little war-torn, he's coming from really long layoff due to a nasal fracture, and he hasn't faced too many gritty wrestlers lately. Not sure if he can handle a 3-round war of attrition. Faber was able to take him down, avoid subs, and rock him on the feet, and not saying that Tamura is going to necessarily hit him on the feet, but I believe he can take him down, and the ball of muscle that he is, can avoid subs. Also, with Assuncao going to decision so much, I favor the gritty wrestlers 4/5 times. I only worry about Tamura's chin, but I don't think Assuncao has too much power in his hands.

[DirtyX]

Disagree

Besides getting rocked against fig, he did quite well. I actually scored the win for him 28-27
he stuffed cOles takedowns and outstruck him. He has shown great improvements and great grappling.
Leroy by sub is my pick
Page throws wil haymakers I expect Leroy to jab him quickly and frequently

Ya... Ok maybe I am being a little hard on the kid, but I really don't think he will do anything special in his weight division. Has he improved since TUF days? Yes. I guess it's just me, but LeRoy just doesn't impress me all that much. He has some cool moves, and def. possesses skills, however I will fade him against any legit guy at 135lbs, (assuming the price isn't retarded) until he sells me on him belonging in the UFC. Page honestly isn't anything special either, however I think it's because he throws caution to the wind, and goes for broke. Page isn't the most intelligent fighter and that is his downfall. He has the tenacity and the skills to win, and if he doesn't gas himself in the first round, and sticks to somewhat of a game plan, Page should win. I am also banking on Page coming into this fight with a somewhat different approach with some discipline. Bottom line, it's a must win fight for either guy.

[Vitooch]

Why is Natal an underdog against Craig?

[DirtyX]

DirtyX, you don't know what you're talking about. What else is new?

Bruce LeRoy dominated Cole Escovedo for three rounds. He also beat up Edwin Figureuoa for three rounds, but lost due to hpoor reffing and judging. Edwin was considered one of the best 135ers in the UFC and LeRoy made kicking his ass look easy.

His only real losses were due to being undersized. He did well until he got submitted. He has never looked bad in a loss. Again, you really don't know what youre talking about.

Cruz, Faber, Jorgensen, McDonald, Benevidez (Yes I know he is at 125), Barao, Picket and Wineland would all SMASH the shit out of this kid. Are you kidding??? He may beat Page, but I am not going to believe in this kid until he shows me something solid and significant.

Dude, I am so sick of reading your vagina post. You attack people for simple things such as disagreeing with you and you come off like a major douche. You are a pathological liar and have no merit on this website. You tell V. that you have shown him up multiple times and it seems like you are on SBR looking for some props, for doing dick. Either that, or you lose your ass, with no bankroll, and then you come on here looking for sympathy. Then, you come on here and try and say your bookie gave you a free $1000.00 to play with, and you turned it into "5 figures" on some hail mary parlay out of nowhere.. LOL This guy. Where the hell are your ticket numbers? Where the hell are your predictions and bets posted BEFORE the fight card? Exactly, you are a piss ant, and a simpleton, and nobody believes a goddamn thing you say on here. You best address me correct if you are going to post on here, and show some respect.

[Beelzebubzy]

Why is Natal an underdog against Craig?

Craig was impressive against Noke whereas natal looked poor against what the hell was his name