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  • LONELYPALACE69
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-10-18
    • 21

    #1
    lonely palace's mma thoughts, opinions and wagers
    hey guys.

    here's a copy/paste of my thoughts on 221 from the event page. will track and update +/- , post afterthoughts etc. as well as posting my write-ups in this thread moving forward so i can avoid clogging up the individual event pages with the long reads and also keep them all in one place.

    hope you all enjoy. best of luck to everyone wagering on tonight's card




    1 – Abe vs Jumeau

    On first thought, I was leaning towards Abe here. He has
    great hand dexterity and surprising power for his frame, and did some major
    damage to a dangerous guy in Lim. Jumeau, on the other hand, had a solid
    performance in his debut, but didn’t stand out to me as someone who will make
    much of a dent in the big league that is the UFC. In fact, I still don’t think
    he will. But after rewatching Abe’s fight with Lim and Luke vs. Steele, I’m
    picking him to get the small upset here. One thing that really struck me
    watching Abe’s debut was the drastic difference between how advanced his upper
    body movement appeared in contrast with his footwork and movement of his lower
    body/feet. Often times, Abe appeared to simply be standing flat footed, waiting
    for an opportunity to let his hands go but not showing much ability to force
    those situations with angles and pressure. This really almost cost him the
    fight, in my opinion, as the second round and a good portion of the third
    appeared to see him drifting towards a loss, until of course he turned up the
    volume and ultimately finished the final frame with a huge knockdown and follow
    up punches. Jumeau is not the better fighter here, and Abe is probably actually
    the better athlete as well. But Jumeau also probably realizes this and will, in
    my estimation, at least be the more willing and active (although
    strike-for-strike less effective) fighter on the feet, which is where I see the
    majority of this fight taking place. I think that he can out-volume Abe here
    and win at least 2/3 rounds so long as he can avoid letting Abe find the
    openings that he will need to have big moments and potentially finish or do
    enough to sway the judges. At +130, I feel as if the odds should probably be
    reversed and thus, this is the first play of the night for me on this card.


    Luke Jumeau +130 (2.5 units)

    2 – Quinones vs. Ishihara


    “Bitches” was one of my most anticipated prospects prior to
    the Lobov and Maynard fights, two occasions where he managed to reveal a pretty
    clearcut blueprint for how he can lose fights. Making the cut to 135 seems like
    a something of a desperation move, and while that usually would make me shy away
    from a fighter but, this actually might be one of the rare exceptions. Feeling
    like his back is against the proverbial wall here might just be the best
    possible mindset for Ishihara to have going into a fight against a stylistic
    contrast like Quinones, a fighter who in a lot of ways is the exact opposite of
    Ishihara (not overly dangerous but very willing to mix it up and be as active
    as possible in order to get the W). An apathetic Ishihara would be a rightful
    underdog going into this matchup as his tendency to wait for that one perfect
    counter shot would most likely lead to him being on the losing end of a
    decision those 60-70% of the times that he wouldn’t be able to land it. I doubt
    Ishihara will be as content to do so much waiting here, however, as he certainly
    realizes that his UFC career is on the line and likely feels as if his
    opponent, being a smaller and less dangerous (at least from a highlight-reel KO
    sense of the word) guy, is undeserving of being the one to send him back to the
    minors. I expect Ishihara to press the action more than usual here and am not
    so sure how Quinones will deal with fighting off of his back foot, especially
    given the amount of power that will be coming at him. It is certainly possible
    that Ishihara shits the bed again here, or that Quinones simply is too well
    rounded and saps Ishihara’s will and gas tank with a few early takedowns, but
    on the feet I favor the Japanese fighter significantly and am not overly
    convinced that Quinones can take down a fresh Ishihara especially if the fight
    is being brought to him which would likely be the opposite of what he is
    expecting. At +175/+180, this seems like a must play to me, although it
    couldn’t be further from a sure thing.


    Teruto Ishihara +180 (1.75 units) and +175 (0.75 units)

    3 – Pearson vs Hirota

    Ross Pearson gets another fight despite having lost 4 in a
    row, and I’m certainly not going to complain about it. He hasn’t been fighting
    elite competition, per say, but also hasn’t been given that rebound fight that
    established and well-liked guys like him usually are gifted when in danger of
    getting the ax. To me (I’m sure many of you may disagree), this fight is
    exactly that. When a fighters time comes, it comes hard, and rarely is it wise
    to bet on an aging veteran to snap a skid like Pearson’s. That being said, I
    watch those four fights that he’s lost on this downward slide and walk away
    feeling as if he would have lost those exact same fights in similar ways at any
    point throughout his career. He didn’t look like a lesser version of Ross
    Pearson, he simply looked like Ross Pearson. In fact, I had him up against
    Hooker until the finish, and also I think it’s fair to say that he was much
    more competitive with Masvidal than even a guy like Cerrone was (and the
    timeframe of those fights weren’t too far apart; was a 170 lb fight vs
    Masvidal, IIRC, despite both guys having traditionally been lightweights). I’m
    not going to get too much into the technicalities of this matchup because
    everyone here should know what both of these guys are about. My thought is
    this. Any version of Ross Pearson would have lost to his last four opponents
    and any version of Ross Pearson should be able to outbox and outwork Mizuto
    Hitota to a clear-cut decision.



    Ross Pearson -145 (bet to win 2.55 units)

    4 – Da Silva vs. Nguyen

    Interesting test here for Ben-10 as he faces one of
    flyweights best positional grapples in Formiga. I feel like this fight is being
    set up to push Benny towards a #1 contender bout and I think that the
    matchmakers chose the perfect opponent to get him there. Da Silva is a supreme
    grappler, typically winning his fights by attaining dominant positions and
    forcing his opponent into a game where they have no choice but to be defensive
    for the entire fight, thus nullifying their own offense. As good as he is in
    that regard, his submission prowess hasn’t necessarily been showcased too often
    under the UFC banner as he has only a third of his wins via stoppage. Still,
    the game works quite often for him, even against relatively high-caliber opposition,
    and it is very possible that he does the same here. I’m going with Ben here
    though. His last submission loss was over ten years ago, and despite losing a
    grapple-centric battle vs Smolka not all that long ago, I’m not sure that Da
    Silva’s style (althought much, much, much more skilled and technical than
    Smolka’s grappling: don’t get what I’m saying twisted) is going to match up
    against Ben quite as effectively. The Smolka fight was full of scrambles, back
    and forth , and that itself seemingly gave Nguyen, an uber-offensive fighter by
    nature, an outlet in which he could exercise his pursuit for a finish despite
    being at a disadvantage and being on the wrong end of most of what was
    happening. Even if Da Silva gets Ben down, I feel like the action will be less
    back and forth and thus will simply drive Ben away from scrambling and going
    back and forth on the ground, unlike the way the Smolka fight seemed to work
    out mentally for him. At some point, Nguyen will be in a spot where he can
    unleash some offense and the more of it that Da Silva has forced him to hold
    within himself and let build up, the more aggressive and determined he will be
    to make it happen, and to make it happen quickly. This type of aggression,
    combined with Ben’s power and boxing ability, is exactly what Formiga has
    struggled with in his UFC losses, at least prior to the Borg and somewhat the
    Cejudo fight. I’m thinking Ben gets the second round TKO after being controlled
    for much of the first.

    Ben Nguyen +110 (4 units)

    5 – Kennedy vs. Volkanovski

    I really could be dead wrong on my analysis here. Let me
    just go ahead and say that and get it out of the way.


    Volkanovski has the power advantage, and the technical
    striking advantage. He has the strength and is probably the better wrestler. In
    fact, he’s probably the better overall fighter here. But I’m not too convinced
    that Jeremy Kennedy gives a shit. According to both Volkanovski and the UFC,
    Kennedy has been the one pushing for this matchup even with the strong public
    perception that he will enter it outmatched. Despite all of the advantages that
    Volkanovski has on paper (an on film, honestly), I feel like Kennedy has a
    certain level of grit and persistence that makes him the better long-term prospect
    of the two. I don’t see Volkanovski ultimately making it any further than the
    bottom end of the divsions’s top ten, if that, and even with a loss here, I
    could see Kennedy eventually being a 5-8 ranked guy down the line if he
    continues to aggressively push towards the top and develops some more
    solidarity within the holes that his game most definitely has at this moment.
    For this fight he will enter with a size and reach advantage that should help
    even things out on the feet, at least in short spurts, as Kennedy will most
    likely be looking to press the New Zealander up against the cage and grind him
    from there. The height advantage really could be a factor there as cage-clinch
    striking could very well end up being a significant chunk of what takes place
    during this fight. I really see two equally likely outcomes here. The first is
    that Volkanovski comes out and torches Kennedy, either with early punches or by
    manhandling him with his wrestling and really making this a one-sided beatdown.
    And the other, equally likely (to me), outcome is that this is a close, not
    very exciting, grind-filled affair, a style of fight in which I heavily favor
    Kennedy to outwork and outgrit Volkanovski. It’s a pick-em to me, maybe even
    slightly favoring Volkanovski. But the value is there, at least in my
    estimation


    Jeremy Kennedy + 170 (2 units)

    6 – Adesanya vs. Wilkinson

    So excited to see Izzy make his debut. The highlight reels
    are incredibile with this one. I’ll admit though, the Guillard fight is the
    only full MMA (not including Glory) fight of his I have watched. Wilkinson’s
    record would indicate that he is a relatively dangerous opponent here, but his
    fight with Siyar pretty much did just the opposite. I do recall Izzy calling
    out Wilkinson after the Guillard win despite already being in different
    organizations by then. I wonder if the UFC made the fight because of some
    possible bad blood or what not between the two? Who knows. All I care about is
    seeing how Adesanya looks here so I can develop a better grasp of how he will
    perform now that he is in the majors. As for this, his debut, it will be a
    no-play as I spent too much time capping the fights that I knew I could get
    reads on and didn’t bother with one where the odds were too steep on the guy I
    would likely end up favoring. Maybe if Wilkinson was being offered around +375
    or more, then I would have been inclined to properly cap this fight. Certainly
    will be watching and enjoying the show.


    7 – Brown vs Kim

    On paper this should be a war, and it very well may turn out
    that way, but Kim’s last few fights have shown him taking a different, more
    measured although less effective approach. He really did not impress me in the
    O’Reilly fight and honestly, who wouldn’t torch Gomi in 2017? Realistically,
    his most impressive performance was a fight in which he ended up getting TKO’d
    by an 8-4 guy who lost 3 out of 4 before entering the UFC. WHY IS HE A FAVORITE
    HERE? Yeah, Brown is another exciting but not very great fighter, but , outside
    of the Pachel KO, he’s shown to be more durable, more consistent with his approach,
    a better grappler (although Kim seems to fancy himself a grappler lately, at
    least in the O’Reilly fight), and a more powerful puncher who is also fighting
    in his hometown. Why care about technique when capping this when these guys
    don’t even care about technique when fighting?


    Damien Brown +115 (2 units)

    8 – Pedro vs Saforov (did not cap; never betting Saforov and
    I wouldn’t take Pedro – 300 against any LHW on the roster until I see more
    development from him; not a knock on the guy, he has potential in my opinion,
    just too raw to get a comfortable read on at the moment)


    9 – Li vs Mathews

    Finally. This is the one I’ve been waiting on. When watching
    Li’s first two UFC bouts, I honestly pegged him as future fade material. Boy,
    could I have been more wrong there huh? The torching of Dhiego Lima that
    followed didn’t answer all of my questions it sure opened my eyes and
    thankfully so. This kid is an absolute pleasure to watch and has surpassed any
    expectations I had for him two fights in. And oh how ironic does that make this
    matchup against Jake Mathews, a guy who I could literally type the
    alternate-world version of the previous three sentences about and have it ring
    100% true. Two fights into his UFC career, Mathews looked like a future title
    contender if not champion. Subbing Vagner Rocha? Where did this kid even come
    from? But then came James Vick, a few not all that impressive wins, and a
    demolition at the hands of Kevin Lee. It was then that I realized just how
    little Jake Matthews had developed during his UFC tenure thus far, and just how
    limited his game actually was. Well. I didn’t realize exactly how limited it
    really was until the next fight, a loss to Andrew penetrating Holbrook. Wow. At
    this point in time, it’s fair to not only call his technical skillset limited
    but also his mental. A strange move to welterweight and an unimpressive win
    over Bojan Velickovic certainly haven’t changed my thoughts on this kid, while
    during this same time, Li has shown true stride and development in both of
    these aspects, showing more and more poise with this striking rather than just
    the swing wild and brawl style that he began with, and also showing a very
    improved ability to gauge distance and combine that with a decent sprawl to
    become harder and harder to get to the floor, which happens to be the only way
    Mathews would have a shot at winning this fight. Easy call here, especially
    since for whatever reason the public has bet this down to give us even better
    odds. I love it. Maybe I’ll be eating crow Sunday and I don’t mind that. The
    read is solid and the value is there.


    Jiangling Li -190 (bet to win 2 units)/ -160 (bet to win 5
    units)


    U2.5 rds +145 (1.5 units)

    10 – Tuivasa vs Asker

    This is a fight tailor made to get Tuivasa a showcase finish
    in his home turf and chances are that will happen, and happen quickly. If not,
    he very well could lose this fight. All I know for sure is that I don’t bet
    completely unproven heavyweights at nearly -300, and I don’t bet on Cyril
    Asker. So. Next please.


    11 – Blaydes vs Hunt

    I love Blaydes here. Hunt is a known commodity and there are
    known ways to beat him. Still, not every fighter has the skillset to do so but
    Blaydes most certainly is not every fighter and barring a brainfart or flash
    KO, he should easily take Hunt down and grind him out. I probably would be less
    certain if not for the Ngannou fight, in which Blaydes took some huge shots and
    never went down, but given that proven chin, reach advantage and wrestling
    accolades, it’s his fight to lose. Add on top of that the fact that Hunt seems
    to be mentally checked out of the UFC already and this is a easy, medium sized
    play.


    Curtis Blaydes -155 (to win 3 units)

    Over 1.5 rds ( to win 1.5 units)


    12- Rockhold vs Romero

    This fight is the definition of a toss-up to me. Well. It’s
    the definition of a toss-up in which I ever so slightly favor one guy, that guy
    being Rockhold. It’s really a match where both guys have the definitive ability
    to capitalize on each other’s glaring weaknesses: Romero’s power could end
    Rockhold’s night at any time due to his questionable chin and poor boxing
    defense, and Rockhold’s length and cardio should allow him to force this fight
    into deep waters where Romero will likely fade and become a sitting duck (with
    crazy 3
    rd round finishing power ). I only bet this because I saw
    the line open on my book at +145 for Rockhold and knew that this was off. At
    the current odds, I would either pass or make a very small play on Romero.



    Luke Rockhold +145 (5 units)




  • LONELYPALACE69
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-10-18
    • 21

    #2
    I have also made several prop wagers for this event.

    # Fights to go the distance

    u4.5 +328 (1 unit)

    u3.5 +938 (1 unit)

    u2.5 +3050 (0.5 unit)

    u1.5 +15000 (0.25 unit)


    Fights to end in submission o5.5 +16300 (0.075 unit)

    Blaydes ITD +252 (1.25 units)

    Li Rd 3 +1100 (.15 unit)

    Adesanya Rd 3 +850 (.15 unit)

    Wilkinson Rd 1 +1400 (.05 unit)

    Wilkinson by SUB +1100 (.025 unit)

    Wilkinson by TKO/KO (.05 unit)

    Wilkinson/Adesanya DRAW +9500 (.025 unit)

    Nguyen by TKO/KO +325 (.25 unit)
    Last edited by LONELYPALACE69; 02-10-18, 05:47 PM. Reason: added player props
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    • Richard Clock
      SBR Sharp
      • 02-09-18
      • 394

      #3
      RE: Ever think the Leech has looked so good of late due to the relatively low level of competition he has faced? His last four opponents have generally been bums/no longer in the UFC, and he got caught pretty badly against Nash and Camacho. Still, hard to deny his durability and toughness, but maybe you are overrating Leech's skills and underrating Matthews'? Best of luck
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      • LONELYPALACE69
        SBR Rookie
        • 02-10-18
        • 21

        #4
        Originally posted by Richard Clock
        RE: Ever think the Leech has looked so good of late due to the relatively low level of competition he has faced? His last four opponents have generally been bums/no longer in the UFC, and he got caught pretty badly against Nash and Camacho. Still, hard to deny his durability and toughness, but maybe you are overrating Leech's skills and underrating Matthews'? Best of luck
        I would pick his last 3 opponents comfortably against Mathews @ welterweight..

        Would you not?

        Best of luck to you as well
        Last edited by LONELYPALACE69; 02-10-18, 05:49 PM. Reason: misspell
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        • TPowell
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-21-08
          • 18842

          #5
          Cut down on the volume my man
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          • rsynweap84
            Restricted User
            • 06-24-16
            • 622

            #6
            Originally posted by LONELYPALACE69
            All I know for sure is that I don’t bet
            completely unproven heavyweights at nearly -300, and I don’t bet on Cyril
            Asker. So. Next please.

            And that is why no one will remember your name...

            #Tuivasa2018
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            • LONELYPALACE69
              SBR Rookie
              • 02-10-18
              • 21

              #7
              Originally posted by TPowell
              Cut down on the volume my man
              I've been doing this for 7 years, profitable in 5. I appreciate the advice but don't need it. Already told you last event was an exception. This next wknd I have 3 plays total between UFC and Bellator. No disrespect but don't judge my style off such a small sample size.
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              • LONELYPALACE69
                SBR Rookie
                • 02-10-18
                • 21

                #8
                Originally posted by rsynweap84
                And that is why no one will remember your name...

                #Tuivasa2018
                He looked great.

                Many will remember my name but not bc of this lol
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                • turbozed
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-15-08
                  • 2435

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rsynweap84
                  And that is why no one will remember your name...

                  #Tuivasa2018

                  Nice Troy reference bro.

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                  • Thrilla
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-10-15
                    • 13809

                    #10
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