UFC 211: Miocic vs. Dos Santos 2 (May 13, 2017)

[PaperTrail07]

JIBB I have to agree....Edgar is not the same and Yair has some smooth striking and footwork......he could easily catch him....Def wont be betting FE

I still think Yair has a chance to beat Frankie and by KO if he doesn't get taken down and grapple focked round after round.. GL gents..

Remember Yair is 5'11 and Frankie is 5'6.. Big reach and height advantage and Yair is a striking based fighter..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Yair-Rodriguez-106305

I remember seeing Frankie rocked and wobbled in several past fights. Had to go immediately into wrestling mode, shoot to survive. I think his chin is suspect and really got by this long with luck and grit.. He does recover well though I gotta admit..

[JIBBBY]

^ Yep Paper, I know Yair beat an old washed up BJ Penn last fight but it was a clinic and BJ was training hard.. Is Frankie Edgar's striking that much better then BJ Penn's?.. I don't think so and Yair picked BJ apart standing..

This is probably Yairs fight to win if it stays standing I believe.. Big if though as Frankie will probably come in with the game plan of putting Yair on his back knowing he is at a huge reach disadvantage and going up against a flashy striker..


Question now is can Yair defend the Frankie Edgar take downs effectively and keep the fight standing? Can Yair be controlled and held down round after round? Is Yair good enough to bounce back up when taken down?

You guys tell me????

[firekillex]

i think this will look like a repeat of Edgar vs Swanson imo

[PaperTrail07]

Yair keeps is distance pretty good....it wont be easy for Frankie to get a TD imo...judges are scoring lay and pray less by the day....and Yair will be able to stand back up

^ Yep Paper, I know Yair beat an old washed up BJ Penn last fight but it was a clinic and BJ was training hard.. Is Frankie Edgar's striking that much better then BJ Penn's?.. I don't think so and Yair picked BJ apart standing..

This is probably Yairs fight to win if it stays standing I believe.. Big if though as Frankie will probably come in with the game plan of putting Yair on his back knowing he is at a huge reach disadvantage and going up against a flashy striker..


Question now is can Yair defend the Frankie Edgar take downs effectively and keep the fight standing? Can Yair be controlled and held down round after round? Is Yair good enough to bounce back up when taken down?

You guys tell me????

[Sanity Check]

^ Yep Paper, I know Yair beat an old washed up BJ Penn last fight but it was a clinic and BJ was training hard.. Is Frankie Edgar's striking that much better then BJ Penn's?.. I don't think so and Yair picked BJ apart standing..

This is probably Yairs fight to win if it stays standing I believe.. Big if though as Frankie will probably come in with the game plan of putting Yair on his back knowing he is at a huge reach disadvantage and going up against a flashy striker..


Question now is can Yair defend the Frankie Edgar take downs effectively and keep the fight standing? Can Yair be controlled and held down round after round? Is Yair good enough to bounce back up when taken down?

You guys tell me????

Neither Jose Aldo nor Frankie Edgar are wearing reebok.

Its from their 1st fight almost 5 years ago.

I don't know if Frankie Edgar is the same guy he was back then.

And I have to think Yair is one of the hungriest, hardest working & most focused people fighting in the UFC right now.

[Sanity Check]

If Yair does lose, I would guess its because he injured his knee and didn't bother to rehab it properly or get surgery.

Yair Rodriguez Says he Injured His Knee Before B.J. Penn Fight

Rising featherweight Yair Rodriguez raised his stock a bit higher with his destruction of Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Hall of Famer B.J. Penn at this past Sunday’s (Jan. 15) UFC Fight Night event. “El Pantera” landed a front kick followed by a straight punch to drop his opponent. “The Prodigy” was done 24 seconds into the second round.

Surprisingly, Rodriguez revealed on Luke Thomas’ SiriusXM Rush show that he was injured heading into the fight. He went into detail about changing his training due to the knee injury:“My right knee was really, really bad. I couldn’t even kick. I just did jiu-jitsu defense, I couldn’t really grapple or wrestle. I just boxed for this fight. As I started throwing kicks two weeks before the fight, my knee started feeling a little better, but I was just being careful.”

Besides focusing on his boxing thanks to the bum knee, Rodriguez also said he was preparing for the ground game of Penn. The Mexican warrior said he was getting ready to go the distance.“Most of the fight [preparation] was strength and conditioning. What I was trying to do was get my heart rate up and trying to do a lot of cardio because I knew it was a five-round fight. And against this guy, being in a scramble especially with a jiu-jitsu specialist is hard. So I just prepared myself in that way.”

Rodriguez acknowledges he still feels the knee injury, but it isn’t stopping him from training to get to his ultimate goal.“Yeah they [doctors] evaluated me before the fight. They cleared me, they said the knee was okay. The injury is still there, so I’m gonna be careful with my knee. I’m gonna record myself. I did my first training today here in Chicago, I’m motivated. I know I’m gonna be the champion of the world, it’s just a matter of time.”

http://www.mmanews.com/yair-rodrigue...-j-penn-fight/

The way Yair fought BJ Penn, it wasn't obvious at all his knee was fked up.

[JIBBBY]

LFA tonight.. I don't know any of these fighters.. Anyone got a handle on any of these guys?

LFA 11 - Welterweight 3 rounds - Comerica Theater - Phoenix, Arizona - axs tv

Fri 5/5		3001 Maycon Mendonca		+320
11:30PM		3002 Matthew Frincu		-460
Fri 5/5		3101 LaRue Burley		+155
11:00PM		3102 James Nakashima		-195
LFA 11 - Flyweight 3 rounds - Comerica Theater - Phoenix, Arizona - axs tv
Fri 5/5		3201 Bruno Silva		+200
10:30PM		3202 Casey Kenney		-280
LFA 11 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - Comerica Theater - Phoenix, Arizona - axs tv
Fri 5/5		3301 David Nuzzo		+135
10:00PM		3302 Sean O'Malley		-175

Cant find much info either .. http://themmareport.com/2017/04/vide...chris-cariaso/

[k13]

How is Joanna only -170???

[JIBBBY]

Neither Jose Aldo nor Frankie Edgar are wearing reebok.

Its from their 1st fight almost 5 years ago.

I don't know if Frankie Edgar is the same guy he was back then.

And I have to think Yair is one of the hungriest, hardest working & most focused people fighting in the UFC right now.

I know Sanity, it was the only Frankie Edgar take down gif I could find on the fly..

Let's not short Frankie to much now - Frankie still has a very good wrestling base even today.. Proved that a couple years ago when he mixing up his wrestling with Cub Swanson whom is a striking based fighter.

[ANGRYBLACK]

Cejudo is going to absolutely roll Pettis here...
Pettis just isn't elite , he's super young and can develop but he's still to raw
did you guys watch Cejudos last fight vs Benvidez ? Guy looked like the 2-3rd best flyweight on the planet


just considering if I wanna go decision prop or ITD I think he could get the finish but he does like his decision victories , all in the UFC he's won by decision


and losing 2 in a row to DJ the best p4p fighter in the world arguably and he should've got the nod over Jospeh who's the 2nd best 125er lol not really any knock on his last few ...

That's what I was thinking. Grind out a decision. Fading Pettis' is lucrative...

[firekillex]

That's what I was thinking. Grind out a decision. Fading Pettis' is lucrative...

Pettis could turn into a solid fighter buts still a prospect guy hasnt showed much against top fighters imo... he has some wild striking that could ko anybody but thats a hail mary shot , Cejudo actually has some extremely underrated boxing , people just seen him get destroyed by DJ and write him off , rewatch his last scrap against joseph benavidez the 2nd best 125er for years whos obliterated everybody other then DJ ... Cejudo looked amazing in that fight ( most people thought he won ) and hes only getting better, guys super young in mma as well which people forget

dont like his personality at all hes kind of a weirdo lol but this is an easy fight for him, decision should hit since hell wanna wrestle the striker just gotta hope he doesnt get a late finish here... maybe put a small little wager on round 3 finish to hedge

[Sanity Check]

Can't believe I hit my hedge with golden state who looked like they had no interest in playing tonight.

(They were lucky Kevin Durant was there to save them & so was I.)



Maybe a few more hedges & I should be good 2 go.

[firekillex]

had gsw in a big parlay as well...
super tight game happy durant came through for em

[rsynweap84]

^ Yep Paper, I know Yair beat an old washed up BJ Penn last fight but it was a clinic and BJ was training hard.. Is Frankie Edgar's striking that much better then BJ Penn's?.. I don't think so and Yair picked BJ apart standing..

This is probably Yairs fight to win if it stays standing I believe.. Big if though as Frankie will probably come in with the game plan of putting Yair on his back knowing he is at a huge reach disadvantage and going up against a flashy striker..


Question now is can Yair defend the Frankie Edgar take downs effectively and keep the fight standing? Can Yair be controlled and held down round after round? Is Yair good enough to bounce back up when taken down?

You guys tell me????

This is something that is troubling me about the ground fighters on this card, I mean Maia, Edgar, even Andrade might be willing to take it their for the Dec, but will the refs even let em?

Last year was pretty hit and miss with bad stand-ups by the refs, there were some here and their yea, nothing to unexpected...

But so far this year there have been some retarded stand-ups, most recently Roy Nelson in round 1 of his last, not that he would have gone on to win the fight, but seriously they just gave that lanky big russian a free out and he was able to take the advantage. Nelson was working though, Miragliotta should be shot, lest we not forget that Weidman fiasco...

So I have to wonder will they even let Franky ride him? I think we are in for alot more stand-ups this year...

[Shagdogy]

Still working through this card from bottom to top. See some value on Jotko here IMO. I think the fight goes similar to his Leites fight. Branch has decent fight IQ and I think he will sense he's losing a standup battle but struggle to get the fight to the mat. If he overcommits, Jotko gets dominant position. Every possible intangible advantage goes to Jotko here too: Youth, reach, southpaw stance, better camp... all reasons to like Jotko. I have him -260 or so. Good value at -180 IMO.

[Shagdogy]

Ah you beat me to it BJ... with you here. Dead on.

Do you? I think Branch looks old. All small advantages goes to Jotko, speed, athleticism, rate of improvement per fight, perceived quality of competition. I say perceived because it is debatable, although, one should always favour fights in the ufc. +35 years means that you also are more prone to get a KO. Dont know how relevant this is for this particular matchup, because branch does seem to be a good striker. I just dont think he wins against an ever improving jotko. Man is very impressive. 0 respect for leites ground game. I do think that speak volumes of the person were dealing with.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Still working through this card from bottom to top. See some value on Jotko here IMO. I think the fight goes similar to his Leites fight. Branch has decent fight IQ and I think he will sense he's losing a standup battle but struggle to get the fight to the mat. If he overcommits, Jotko gets dominant position. Every possible intangible advantage goes to Jotko here too: Youth, reach, southpaw stance, better camp... all reasons to like Jotko. I have him -260 or so. Good value at -180 IMO.

Been on Jotko since I first started betting MMA last year. Love the guy. I think he will keep it on the feet and win scrambles if he does get taken down.

[Shagdogy]

Been on Jotko since I first started betting MMA last year. Love the guy. I think he will keep it on the feet and win scrambles if he does get taken down.

Timeout... huh? You've been betting MMA for one year?

[Hugo de Naranja]

Timeout... huh? You've been betting MMA for one year?

Yessir. First event I bet was the Fight Night leading up to UFC 194

[JIBBBY]

This is something that is troubling me about the ground fighters on this card, I mean Maia, Edgar, even Andrade might be willing to take it their for the Dec, but will the refs even let em?

Last year was pretty hit and miss with bad stand-ups by the refs, there were some here and their yea, nothing to unexpected...

But so far this year there have been some retarded stand-ups, most recently Roy Nelson in round 1 of his last, not that he would have gone on to win the fight, but seriously they just gave that lanky big russian a free out and he was able to take the advantage. Nelson was working though, Miragliotta should be shot, lest we not forget that Weidman fiasco...

So I have to wonder will they even let Franky ride him? I think we are in for alot more stand-ups this year...

Depends on the ref in each fight and how active they stay on the ground.. If the crowd starts boo'ing that also influences the refs to stand them up as well..

Bit nervous in the Maia fight for sure if DM can't advance positions and or begin to inflict damage..

Edgar doesn't rely on the ground game as much as Maia does..

[Ty$]

Hands down best bet is Knight over Skelly.... should be -200 imo WAR Hick Diaz!!

[JIBBBY]

Hands down best bet is Knight over Skelly.... should be -200 imo WAR Hick Diaz!!

Skelly by sub for me...

[Hugo de Naranja]

Hands down best bet is Knight over Skelly.... should be -200 imo WAR Hick Diaz!!

I like Knight a lot but I think it will be tough for him to get a decision in Texas and Skelly is tough to finish.

[Ty$]

Knight by tko or he wins unanimously... this fight is easy guys

[Thor4140]

Yair keeps is distance pretty good....it wont be easy for Frankie to get a TD imo...judges are scoring lay and pray less by the day....and Yair will be able to stand back up

If Frankie can catch an Aldo kick do u think he could catch one of Yair's

[rsynweap84]

I love my boy knight when hes on dog odds...

But that said I really wish it wasn't against a surging Skelly, gotta feeling a decision bet might be the play here, but on who? Uhhhh...

Ground game seems a wash to me, these gents bot got it might force a TKO...

Love ma dog knight but this fight is a toss up...

[Ty$]

I got Knight at even $... if he goes + Im goin big!

[RussianMike]

Strike all that. Actually, after watching more tape of how much Andrade presses her striking to work in close usually throwing wild hooks and uppercuts to get to dirty-boxing territory, heck Joanna so compact Andrade will pretty much be there wth just a lead jab. Starting to really see this fight not going to any cards. Either broad can get a knockout here with Andrade also having ability to hogtie that broad once she tosses her off the first clinch. Falling in love with under 3.5 at plus 160.

[RussianMike]

I pretty much was playing them along same lines, but started thinking the way Andrade presses, can you imagine how much damage she will have taken in a fight where JJ wins by decision? JJ too small to fight a distance battle, and Andrade appears to have never even heard of such a concept. Defense? What defense? I'm keeping my Andrade ITD big, but can see JJ winning by ITD as well, like maybe 4-5th rounds as Andrade gasses a bit

[rsynweap84]

I pretty much was playing them along same lines, but started thinking the way Andrade presses, can you imagine how much damage she will have taken in a fight where JJ wins by decision? JJ too small to fight a distance battle, and Andrade appears to have never even heard of such a concept. Defense? What defense? I'm keeping my Andrade ITD big, but can see JJ winning by ITD as well, like maybe 4-5th rounds as Andrade gasses a bit

I think a round 4 or 5 TKO is JJ's best option for TKO, though I don't know if Andrade will be gassed, she looked goo after 3 rounds with Hill, but she didn't have to use much TD or wrasslin' in that match.

Gassed or not though, I feel JJ's punches are way less powerful than the bombs Angela Hill hit Andrade with, so again, she might do it after a few dozen or so to particular spot, though JJ has thrown some nasty kicks in her fights, and what she does have which I admit I was not considering before, are elbows. That lil' gal loves the clinch elbow. She can kick fast, and throw a knee just as fast. And elbow in the clinch or a knee on a bad shot? Yea either one of them could grab a KO.

Still like Andrade's chances but this fight is by no means a sure bet. Can't sleep on either of these gals.

[JIBBBY]

MMA mania prelim write ups coming in - Part 1...



115 lbs.: Jessica Aguilar vs. Cortney Casey

Jessica Aguilar (19-5) came back from her controversial loss to Zoila Frausto in Bellator to win 10 straight, including a decision against Carla Esparza and two decisions over the legendary Megumi Fujii. That pedigree wasn’t enough to save her from Claudia Gadelha, who overpowered “Jag” in the latter’s UFC debut.
This will be her first fight since Oct. 2015 thanks to a torn ACL.
Cortney Casey (6-4) came up short in her first two UFC bouts against Joanne Calderwood and Seo Hee Ham, winning “Fight of the Night” both times, but showed dramatic improvement in dominant wins over Cristina Stanciu and Randa Markos. This set up a fight with Gadelha, who delighted the Brazilian crowd while handing Casey her third UFC defeat.
She will have three inches of height and four inches of reach on Aguilar.
This fight boils entirely down to how much the layoff affects Aguilar. Casey has parlayed her size, strength and mean streak into some solid performances, but the wrestling and experience disparities are just too much for her present skillset to overcome. Heck, Aguilar first fought Fujii a year before Casey’s professional debut.
Casey doesn’t have enough to fall back on when Plan A (physically overpowering Aguilar) inevitably goes south. Aguilar out-grapples her on the way to her first UFC victory.
Prediction: Aguilar def. Casey via unanimous decision

145 lbs.: Jared Gordon vs. Michel Quinones

Jared “Flash” Gordon (12-1) — though not the SAVIOR OF THE UNIVERSE — rebounded from his first career loss to Jeff Lentz by winning the CFFC Featherweight title. In his first defense, he impressed Dana White and Co. enough to be the latest “Lookin’ for a Fight” acquisition.
He has knocked out five opponents and submitted another two.
A striker out of American Top Team, Michel Quinones (8-1) knocked out three consecutive opponents in the first round, including The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 22 competitor Billy Quarantillo, to earn a call up to Titan FC. There, he picked up just his second decision win over previously unbeaten Caio Uruguai.
He was originally set to debut in February against Alexander Volkanovski before suffering an injury.
There’s not much out there on Gordon save highlights, but thankfully, Fight Pass has Quinones’ last fight. “El Capo” is an aggressive, powerful striker with a tricky left leg, but has a tendency to rush forward when attacking in combination and open himself up to counters. What I can piece together of Gordon suggests a strong wrestler with pop in his hands.
While they’re both solid, Gordon gets my tentative nod. He looks capable on the counter and — though Quinones’ takedown defense looked stout — those charges are just begging for a well-timed double-leg takedown. Gordon mixes striking and takedowns for a decision win.
Prediction: Gordon via unanimous decision

265 lbs.: Chase Sherman vs. Rashad Coulter

Chase Sherman (9-3) entered UFC with nine first-round knockouts in 10 fights, the sole loss coming to current UFC competitor Alex Nicholson. He has struggled to recreate that success in UFC, dropping a wide decision to Justin Ledet in his debut and suffering a knockout to fellow physical specimen Walt Harris in January.
At 6’4”, he stands five inches taller than Rashad Coulter (8-1).
Coulter enters UFC having won five straight, all of them in the first round under solid banners like Bellator and Legacy FC. His last two fights have ended in a combined 1:49 and none of the five lasted more than three minutes. Like Sherman, all of Coulter’s wins have come by form of knockout.
I’m going to be honest: Aside from about 10 seconds from AXS TV’s post-show recaps, I can’t find any recent footage of Coulter. I do, however, know that he’s fought at Light Heavyweight before and his weight tends to fluctuate dramatically, which suggests he’s carrying unnecessary fat. Sherman may be technically limited, but he’s a 240-pound beast.
Both guys are coming in on short notice, adding another layer of intrigue. Accepting that the lack of fight tape makes this a shot in the dark, I say Sherman ends the slugfest partway through the first.
Prediction: Sherman via first-round technical knockout

145 lbs.: Gabriel Benitezvs. Enrique Barzola

Gabriel Benitez (19-5) — who defeated Diego Rivas on the inaugural TUF: “Latin America” season — won his first two UFC bouts before suffering a career-first loss to Andre Fili at UFC Fight Night 78. Ten months later, “Moggly” returned to action and choked out Sam Sicilia in Hidalgo for his fifth win in six fights.
Ten of his 19 professional wins have come by submission, including four by guillotine choke.
Enrique Barzola (12-3-1) — lived up to his nickname on TUF: “Latin America” 2, beating Jonathan Ortega and Cesar Arzamendia before dominating Horacio Guitierrez at the Finale. After a questionable loss to Kyle Bochniak, Barzola cruised past Chris Avila in Mexico City last November.
His wins are split evenly between knockouts, submissions and decisions.
It’s been nice to see TUF: “Latin American” fighters find success after being brushed aside as novelties. Benitez has proven a very effective striker and Barzola is much more well-rounded than one would expect considering the limited training opportunities he had early in his career.
That well-roundedness has me picking the Peruvian. He can hold his own on the feet and blends his wrestling with his striking quite well. The threat of the takedown should muzzle Benitez’s usual kicking onslaught and Barzola has the cardio to grapple all night. He outworks Benitez to a clear decision win.
Prediction: Barzola via unanimous decision

205 lbs.: Gadzhimurad Antigulov vs. Joachim Christensen

Gadzhimurad Antigulov (19-4) put a three-fight losing streak behind him with 12 consecutive victories, all but one by knockout or submission. This set up a UFC debut against Marcos Rogerio de Lima, whom Antigulov overpowered for a bonus-winning guillotine choke in 67 seconds.
He has stopped 16 opponents in the first round, including seven in less than one minute.
Joachim Christensen (14-4) saw his five-fight win streak come to an end in his UFC debut when Luis “Frankenstein” recovered from a nasty knee to submit him in the second. Three months later, he returned to action and knocked out Bojan Mihajlovic with a lovely uppercut midway through the third.
At 6’3”, he is four inches taller than Antigulov.
Antigulov is a natural Middleweight who makes up for his physical disadvantages with freakish aggression. It’s not a sustainable style, nor one that will continue to work once he starts to scratch the top of the division, but it makes him must-watch TV against those below the 205-pound median.
Christensen has power and solid striking skills. And if the fight goes past the first, it’s his for the taking. Sadly, he has not demonstrated the takedown defense necessary to turn aside Antigulov’s initial rush. Antigulov downs him early and locks up something ugly in transition.
Prediction: Antigulov via first-round submission

[Sanity Check]

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MMA mania prelim write ups coming in - Part 1...
Barzola has the cardio to grapple all night. He outworks Benitez to a clear decision win.
Prediction: Barzola via unanimous decision

Barzola didn't push much of a pace against Chris Avila.

Which fight did Barzola show a crazy gas tank?

edit: nvm forgot the Avila vs Barzola fight was @ 7,000 ft altitude in mexico city.

[RussianMike]

Neither Jose Aldo nor Frankie Edgar are wearing reebok.

Its from their 1st fight almost 5 years ago.

I don't know if Frankie Edgar is the same guy he was back then.

And I have to think Yair is one of the hungriest, hardest working & most focused people fighting in the UFC right now.

Frankie IMO has been content fighting with the quick in-out bouncing boxing that he's developed. Don't know if he will be looking specifically to grapple. He's maybe still quick enough to avoid those long kicks, but that may mean we may end up watching a fight similar to last week's Wineland/Dodson. W/Edgar as Wineland , off course. Only he wont take as much damage. Edgar will have difficult time closing that distance. If fight close or a toss up, I'm rolling conspiratorial route and giving Yair edge on the cards.

[RussianMike]

for anyone interested, espn.com has a very good , lengthy write up and breakdown of the Yair/Edgar fight. Not sure if its insider or not, forgot.

[Hugo de Naranja]

I'm going to be big on Brazilians this card