UFC 209: Woodley vs. Thompson 2 (March 04, 2017)

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  • Hugo de Naranja
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    • 04-14-16
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    #281
    Originally posted by PaperTrail07
    after the Vanatta scare---not a chance...
    Agreed
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    • Hugo de Naranja
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      • 04-14-16
      • 14140

      #282
      Originally posted by MMANick
      Nothing else we can do, man. I sort of want to cancel FP as well.
      FP is a MUST for tape study
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      • MMANick
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        • 12-06-16
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        #283
        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
        FP is a MUST for tape study
        I can find the fights elsewhere if need be. Always been able to.
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        • Fight4m
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          • 02-23-17
          • 54

          #284
          Originally posted by MMANick
          I'll take the fight... For what Khabib was going to get paid. Y'all just bet Tony to win in the 2nd round, not sure I can run away for more than one round lol
          5 minutes a round is a lot for you to be running around,unless you are Usain Bolt lloooll $5000 on Ferguson to win in 1st round lol
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          • PaperTrail07
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            • 08-29-08
            • 20423

            #285
            Same here...and most of the time a google seach is actually quicker...
            Originally posted by MMANick
            I can find the fights elsewhere if need be. Always been able to.
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            • Fight4m
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              • 02-23-17
              • 54

              #286
              Let's forget about this fight,it's off so let's move on,there's one fight I like a lot,and it's Pedro vs Craig fight,I really like Craig in this fight,I think he's +135 ,there's big value here,give me your thoughts of this fight.
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              • PaperTrail07
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                • 08-29-08
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                #287
                The bearjew has value?
                Originally posted by Fight4m
                Let's forget about this fight,it's off so let's move on,there's one fight I like a lot,and it's Pedro vs Craig fight,I really like Craig in this fight,I think he's +135 ,there's big value here,give me your thoughts of this fight.
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                • getlucky2win
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                  • 01-14-12
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                  #288




                  34sBrett Okamoto‏ @bokamotoESPN
                  Me: What do you weigh right now?Michael Johnson: Close enough to make it happen.


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                  • Fight4m
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                    • 02-23-17
                    • 54

                    #289
                    Well I think he should be the favorite in my opinion,what you think?
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                    • PaperTrail07
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                      • 08-29-08
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                      #290
                      He seems VERY confident of his skills I will say that....I just don't know much about either...
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                      • PaperTrail07
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                        • 08-29-08
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                        #291
                        As for Pedro:

                        TRAINING: This has been my first fight camp as a professional where I haven’t had to work a second job. I’ve had a minimum of two sessions every day and a lot more recovery between sessions this fight.

                        Have to factor that in, but I lean your direction...
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                        • MMANick
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                          #292
                          Originally posted by Fight4m
                          5 minutes a round is a lot for you to be running around,unless you are Usain Bolt lloooll $5000 on Ferguson to win in 1st round lol
                          You're disregarding my heart and never quit attitude. But, taking into account my shitty head movement and well below average footwork. I was a very good athlete, I did a couple ammy's. Good value on Tony in round 2...

                          I'm kidding, of course.
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                          • GoBlue77
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                            • 03-20-11
                            • 9166

                            #293
                            Originally posted by Mackballs
                            Sucks so bad for him man. Guy was sooo ready for this. He's a pro, khabib could learn a thing or two from Tony's approach going into the fight and weight cut. Maybe he needs to transform his body and lose mass to make it easier or go up to 170 idk. Cornier ass gonna pull out of 210 now watch.
                            just get ready to bet the world on Rumble over fatboy
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                            • MMANick
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                              #294
                              I also like the Bearjew in this spot at plus odds. But, this is a very close fight.
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                              • JIBBBY
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                                • 12-10-09
                                • 83686

                                #295
                                Originally posted by Fight4m
                                Let's forget about this fight,it's off so let's move on,there's one fight I like a lot,and it's Pedro vs Craig fight,I really like Craig in this fight,I think he's +135 ,there's big value here,give me your thoughts of this fight.
                                Paul Craig (9-0) dominated the British circuit from 2013 to 2015, stopping seven opponents in the first round and one 42 seconds into the second. He needed a bit more time against Luis Henrique da Silva in his Octagon debut, but nonetheless walked away with a submission win and a "Performance of the Night" bonus.
                                "Bearjew" owns eight professional wins by submission, including three via triangle.
                                Australia’s Tyson Pedro (5-0) made short work of his first four opponents, finishing each in 3:05 or less. This set up a UFC bout with Khalil Rountree, who dropped Pedro with a thunderous shot early but ultimately succumbed to his grappling prowess.

                                His last three wins have come by rear-naked choke.
                                This one basically comes down to wrestling. Craig is slicker and far more proven on the mat, but he’s not a great takedown artist. Pedro consistently puts people on their backs, but he’s fought just two people with winning records.
                                I think I’ve got to go with experience here. Craig has faced quality grapplers like Karl Moore and -- even if he didn’t always stuff the takedown -- found the submission with impressive regularity. Expect Pedro’s aggressive wrestling to work against him as Craig puts him away with either a guillotine or triangle.

                                ^^^I agree with this MMAmania write up as long as Craig doesn't get grapple focked. Both are undefeated so anything is possible though..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tyson...46831#/slide/1

                                Already locked and loaded with Craig by submission..


                                $100.00 $225.00 Pending 3/4/17 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1931 Craig wins by submission +225* vs Any other result
                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 03-03-17, 04:13 PM.
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                                • MMANick
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                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by GoBlue77
                                  just get ready to bet the world on Rumble over fatboy
                                  Lol I'll take a lifelong wrestler who literally doesn't quit over a guy who will literally give up when things aren't going his way... Big Rumble fan here, by the way.
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                                  • Mackballs
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                                    • 12-01-16
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                                    #297
                                    Apparently Michael Johnson accepted the fight but it needs to get sanctioned which may be tough at this point. Not sure if Tony has accepted it.
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                                    • Fight4m
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                                      • 02-23-17
                                      • 54

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                      Paul Craig (9-0) dominated the British circuit from 2013 to 2015, stopping seven opponents in the first round and one 42 seconds into the second. He needed a bit more time against Luis Henrique da Silva in his Octagon debut, but nonetheless walked away with a submission win and a "Performance of the Night" bonus.
                                      "Bearjew" owns eight professional wins by submission, including three via triangle.
                                      Australia’s Tyson Pedro (5-0) made short work of his first four opponents, finishing each in 3:05 or less. This set up a UFC bout with Khalil Rountree, who dropped Pedro with a thunderous shot early but ultimately succumbed to his grappling prowess.

                                      His last three wins have come by rear-naked choke.
                                      This one basically comes down to wrestling. Craig is slicker and far more proven on the mat, but he’s not a great takedown artist. Pedro consistently puts people on their backs, but he’s fought just two people with winning records.
                                      I think I’ve got to go with experience here. Craig has faced quality grapplers like Karl Moore and -- even if he didn’t always stuff the takedown -- found the submission with impressive regularity. Expect Pedro’s aggressive wrestling to work against him as Craig puts him away with either a guillotine or triangle.

                                      ^^^I agree with this MMAmania write up as long as Craig doesn't get grapple focked. Both are undefeated so anything is possible though..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tyson...46831#/slide/1

                                      Already locked and loaded with Craig by submission..


                                      $100.00 $225.00 Pending 3/4/17 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1931 Craig wins by submission +225* vs Any other result
                                      I'm gonna follow your steps Jibby ,this is the way to go
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                                      • Thor4140
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                                        • 02-09-08
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                                        #299
                                        Strange how all the fans and gamblers get all worked up about him missing weight but when u look at what the fighters say u realize they know how hard making weight is and the dangers. U guys that are insulting him can now sit back with your beers and chips and watch Woodley vs Thompson another great fight. Oh and don't forget to wipe off the chips from your belly's when u get up for another beer.
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                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                                          Strange how all the fans and gamblers get all worked up about him missing weight but when u look at what the fighters say u realize they know how hard making weight is and the dangers. U guys that are insulting him can now sit back with your beers and chips and watch Woodley vs Thompson another great fight. Oh and don't forget to wipe off the chips from your belly's when u get up for another beer.
                                          It's his job to make the contracted fight or at worst who up for weigh-ins over the limit and make a deal with his opponent. He didn't do his job and this isn't the first time.
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                                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                                            • 04-14-16
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                                            #301
                                            Going small on Coenen ML + ITD tonight. .5u on each
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                                            • Fight4m
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                                              • 02-23-17
                                              • 54

                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                              Going small on Coenen ML + ITD tonight. .5u on each
                                              I'm so focused on tomorrow's fights ,didn't noticed there was a fight today lol
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                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                • 04-14-16
                                                • 14140

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by Fight4m
                                                I'm so focused on tomorrow's fights ,didn't noticed there was a fight today lol
                                                Yeah this Bellator card got ****** by late changes
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                                                • rsynweap84
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                                                  • 06-24-16
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                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                  Strange how all the fans and gamblers get all worked up about him missing weight but when u look at what the fighters say u realize they know how hard making weight is and the dangers. U guys that are insulting him can now sit back with your beers and chips and watch Woodley vs Thompson another great fight. Oh and don't forget to wipe off the chips from your belly's when u get up for another beer.
                                                  Were sittin' back eatin' chips, drinkin' beers and buying the F**KING $60.00 fight you hippy scrub!

                                                  Khabib's job was to make it to the fight, first, and foremost. He got slotted in 5 round co-main event, that rivals if not surpasses the main event.

                                                  The goddamn outcome might be the biggest UFC event to date, because it sets up Conor's next potential opponent.

                                                  We can do our part and pay the money, he can't do his. Guess what...making weight is hard, fighting is hard, winning is hard...it's what their paid to do. Fergy wishes him the best, personally I hope he, his dad, and any other worthless sub-human rusky relatives he have die in a plane crash on the way back to commie land! Guy is worthless as f**k!!!

                                                  So no, we ain't nor do we have to be sympathetic to him, Tony made weight, and he's the bigger goddamn guy...I mean how can you be this sh!t stupid? Go have a car wreck Thor, we got enough of you in the world screwin' it up already.
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                                                  • Thor4140
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                                                    #305
                                                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                    It's his job to make the contracted fight or at worst who up for weigh-ins over the limit and make a deal with his opponent. He didn't do his job and this isn't the first time.
                                                    Do u think he is happy this happen? U ever have a kidney stone? Maybe this is what happen. Things u just can't control
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                                                    • Thor4140
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                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by rsynweap84
                                                      Were sittin' back eatin' chips, drinkin' beers and buying the F**KING $60.00 fight you hippy scrub!

                                                      Khabib's job was to make it to the fight, first, and foremost. He got slotted in 5 round co-main event, that rivals if not surpasses the main event.

                                                      The goddamn outcome might be the biggest UFC event to date, because it sets up Conor's next potential opponent.

                                                      We can do our part and pay the money, he can't do his. Guess what...making weight is hard, fighting is hard, winning is hard...it's what their paid to do. Fergy wishes him the best, personally I hope he, his dad, and any other worthless sub-human rusky relatives he have die in a plane crash on the way back to commie land! Guy is worthless as f**k!!!

                                                      So no, we ain't nor do we have to be sympathetic to him, Tony made weight, and he's the bigger goddamn guy...I mean how can you be this sh!t stupid? Go have a car wreck Thor, we got enough of you in the world screwin' it up already.

                                                      Aren't u used to this by now? Guys dropping out of fights? Listen to you. You want the guy to die in a car crash? Look i wanted to see the fight to but u are acting like one of those face painted jackasses that takes off your shirt at a Green bay game. Good lord lol. Move on you clown.
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                                                      • UncleChael
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                                                        #307
                                                        Heart broken...
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                                                        • rsynweap84
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                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                          Aren't u used to this by now? Guys dropping out of fights? Listen to you. You want the guy to die in a car crash? Look i wanted to see the fight to but u are acting like one of those face painted jackasses that takes off your shirt at a Green bay game. Good lord lol. Move on you clown.
                                                          At least Greenbay shows up to play, injured, sick, broke the f**k off, not like pussy Khabib. Your making excuses for failure, I got news for ya'...there ain't none.

                                                          But I guess somone has to defend the scumbags like Khabib, he can shit-talk for days but when it's fight time...nope nope nope. And him to accuse Ferguson of running from this fight, although at least he probably can run, maybe they'll get Khabib a wheelchair to keep up...

                                                          Also, learn to read you twat, I wanted him in a plane crash, told you to have the car wreck...gees christ almighty find a cliff already...
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                                                          • PaperTrail07
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                                                            • 08-29-08
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                                                            #309
                                                            lol come on....we know that BUT some cut more weight than others --look at rumble....have to expect them to show up.....
                                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                            Strange how all the fans and gamblers get all worked up about him missing weight but when u look at what the fighters say u realize they know how hard making weight is and the dangers. U guys that are insulting him can now sit back with your beers and chips and watch Woodley vs Thompson another great fight. Oh and don't forget to wipe off the chips from your belly's when u get up for another beer.
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                                                            • Shagdogy
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                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by Fight4m
                                                              Well guys after studying carefully some of UFC 209 fight these are the ones I like

                                                              1.Ferguson...No more to say lol!!!
                                                              2.Albert Morales...I think he's the better fighter,he was KOed but it was against a very powerful guy,the Asian sensation doesn't convince me,and I don't think he has enough power to Ko Morales or win a desicion,I like the over 1.5 a lot too.
                                                              3.Paul Craig.... I like the value in this guy,he doesn't have power but what a submission specialist he is! Pedro is good ,but I think Craig get the submission here.
                                                              4.Mark Godbeer....I think he is faster,has more power and experience,Spitz is undefeated but he's nothing special,not the kind of fighter to beat Godbeer,I like the over 1.5 at + 125 too.
                                                              5.Iuri Alcántara...The only concern here is his age,but his skills are far superior than Sanders, Alcántara is faster and should get a desicion or submission here.
                                                              6.Luis Henrique....I see great value in this underdog.

                                                              I have a betting rule,never bet on a rematch fight,that's why didn't bother study Thompson vs Woodley.

                                                              Well that's all, good luck my friends.
                                                              I agree with you dead on with every fight except Craig/Pedro. I think it's a bad style matchup for Craig, but I agree it's an exciting fight and both guys appear to be legit. I took Pedro though. I think with a full camp at Jackson's he will be able to use his imposing top game to control and avoid subs. Maybe even get TKO from mount or sink RNC. Craig is very good though and I will give him all the credit if he subs Pedro from bottom since Pedro has to know to be cautious with his BJJ.

                                                              I'm heavy on Godbeer. Not a lot to see on Spitz but his quality of opponents is complete trash, he's on one week's notice, sikjitsu camp is crappy, his kicks are half as good as Godbeer's, his hands are slower, and he has less power. Godbeer for the win by TKO as long as he doesn't get overconfident, rush it, and get dumped on his ass by the larger guy.
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                                                              • PaperTrail07
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                                                                • 08-29-08
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                                                                #311
                                                                LOL agree w top half lol......I don't wish that on anyone lol
                                                                Originally posted by rsynweap84
                                                                Were sittin' back eatin' chips, drinkin' beers and buying the F**KING $60.00 fight you hippy scrub!

                                                                Khabib's job was to make it to the fight, first, and foremost. He got slotted in 5 round co-main event, that rivals if not surpasses the main event.

                                                                The goddamn outcome might be the biggest UFC event to date, because it sets up Conor's next potential opponent.

                                                                We can do our part and pay the money, he can't do his. Guess what...making weight is hard, fighting is hard, winning is hard...it's what their paid to do. Fergy wishes him the best, personally I hope he, his dad, and any other worthless sub-human rusky relatives he have die in a plane crash on the way back to commie land! Guy is worthless as f**k!!!

                                                                So no, we ain't nor do we have to be sympathetic to him, Tony made weight, and he's the bigger goddamn guy...I mean how can you be this sh!t stupid? Go have a car wreck Thor, we got enough of you in the world screwin' it up already.
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                                                                • PaperTrail07
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                                                                  • 08-29-08
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                                                                  #312
                                                                  I was so focused on the TF Khabib fight Ive yet to bet the others...
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                                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                                    • 08-29-08
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                                                                    #313
                                                                    People also need to remember the last time they were scheduled to fight TONY got hurt and pulled out....it was just a TAD sooner...Khabib then rolled Horcher who we have never seen AGAIN lol
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                                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                                      People also need to remember the last time they were scheduled to fight TONY got hurt and pulled out....it was just a TAD sooner...Khabib then rolled Horcher who we have never seen AGAIN lol
                                                                      Horcher almost died in a motorcycle accident. Not sure if he'll ever fight again
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                                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                                        • 83686

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Gotta move on fellas... Still have a few good fights to bet on with this event..

                                                                        I gotta say I think we would have all cashed on El Cucuy though.. That was good money at +odds.

                                                                        Anyways.. Taking a pass on Bellator tonight.. Don't know the fighters didn't have the time to cap.. I'm Out.. GL though!!
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