UFC 197: Jones vs. Saint Preux (April 23, 2016)

[bjpenn85]

To me this is the Flyweight divisions last chance to put a stop to DJ. If DJ beats Cejudo which I think he will, we wont see anyone beating him for a few more years at least.

DJ is light years quicker than Cejudo and I bet he fks him up. He's on a total other level. He's a martian !

We always believe that, we thought that about rousey and barao also.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Henry Cejudo has that pedigree which makes people forget its not the olympic wrestling finals. Bookies win money cause people are stupid, quite frankly.

Yeah it seems like that's all he has going for him in this one.

[JIBBBY]

		$50.00	$467.42	Pending	6 Team Parlay
				Pending	4/23/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Jon Jones -650* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Ovince Saint Preux
				Pending	4/23/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Demetrious Johnson -400* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Henry Cejudo
				Pending	4/23/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Robert Whittaker -310* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Rafael Natal
				Pending	4/23/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1901 Walt Harris +140* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Cody East
				Pending	4/23/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Marcos Rogerio de Lima -135* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Clint Hester
				Pending	4/23/16 6:30pm UFC Fighting 2102 Kevin Lee -335* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Efrain Escudero

I like your De Lima and Kevin Lee picks to land Cap.. Others probably land too but ya never know?

Everyone said Rhonda Rousey would beat Holly Holm, everyone thought Holly Holm would beat Mesha Tate.. Etc.. Etc.. Big fight upsets happen that's all I'm saying..

[JIBBBY]

To me this is the Flyweight divisions last chance to put a stop to DJ. If DJ beats Cejudo which I think he will, we wont see anyone beating him for a few more years at least.

DJ is light years quicker than Cejudo and I bet he fks him up. He's on a total other level. He's a martian !

Seen Mouse get clipped and dropped from punches before but he recovered quickly.. Bottom line, Henry is tough as nails and he's been putting in the work to prefect his craft also.. He's a worker and he has been looking better with every fight.. Undefeated..

Just looking at the fight at first I also thought Mighty Mouse gets this and by decision but the more I think about it Henry might have a chance.. I kinda like Henry from what I've seen as a person as well, seems like a decent little dude that came up from nothing..

A Mexican at birth who's mother came across the border illegally, and next you know her son Henry wins a Gold Medal at the Olympics representing America... Respk.. Not an easy task to do!!

This DOGGY might just bark.. AND NEW!!!

[JC2008]

I lean DJ, still and always underrated but I would not be surprised if they robbed him and gave a decision win to Cejudo.

[Ultimatemeatball]

I lean DJ, still and always underrated but I would not be surprised if they robbed him and gave a decision win to Cejudo.

I honestly don't see how he loses a round considering his volume and ability to avoid getting tagged. http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/demet...striker-stats/

[JIBBBY]

I lean DJ, still and always underrated but I would not be surprised if they robbed him and gave a decision win to Cejudo.

Well JC bud, if Henry is able to get take downs every round then anything goes.. Split Henry pays a ton..

1145 Cejudo wins by 5 rd split/maj decision

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[Mxs1332]

Well JC bud, if Henry is able to get take downs every round then anything goes.. Split Henry pays a ton..

1145 Cejudo wins by 5 rd split/maj decision

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Dammnn Jibby I like the way you do business. Haha thats easily worth a $25 bet just for shits and giggles, yea?

[Mxs1332]

I'm stoked for my boy Yair Rodriguez AKA the future on this card. One of the most exciting fighters to watch. Good game all around. His stand up is tough to beat and his rolling so fluid.

[JIBBBY]

Dammnn Jibby I like the way you do business. Haha thats easily worth a $25 bet just for shits and giggles, yea?

More likely Henry wins by KO if he is to win, crazier tings have happened though in MMA...

$30.00

$484.50

Pending

4/23/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1137 Cejudo wins by TKO/KO +1615* <small>vs</small> Any other result

[Mxs1332]

More likely Henry wins by KO if he is to win, crazier tings have happened though in MMA...

Pending4/23/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1137 Cejudo wins by TKO/KO +1615* <small>vs</small> Any other result

TKO/KO counts as ground and pound stoppage as well right?

Ur tha man for posting this!! Much respect

[JIBBBY]

TKO/KO counts as ground and pound stoppage as well right?

Ur tha man for posting this!! Much respect

Yes ground and pound stoppage is scored as a KO/TKO..

Well the odds have dropped on that KO prop as I just checked..

1137 Cejudo wins by TKO/KO

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Hit it at +1615 when I first saw it a few days ago.. Might still play the split for $20.. We'll see..

[THE_RUDESTER]

Been trying to post a few tickets on here lately but website does not allow me to upload pics through mobile phone.

Taking a shot with this parlay.
I usually do great when I have confidence and this is one of them I feel will hit. 🙏

Giants -160
Thunder -450
Kevin Lee -360
Demetrious Johnson -400
Jon Jones -525

Risking $715 to win $1985.

[JC2008]

Well JC bud, if Henry is able to get take downs every round then anything goes.. Split Henry pays a ton..

1145 Cejudo wins by 5 rd split/maj decision

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Again, I REALLY do not see Cejudo winning this fight and if I did play him by decision it would be a decision only, that's just getting greasy dancing with majority/split decisions. The only way I can see Cejudo winning by KO/TKO is if he catches and hurts Johnson with a counter in an exchange, jumps on him and there's a controversial early stoppage.

[JIBBBY]

Couple days away!! I'm done capping this event.. Locked and loaded on almost every fight now..

Want to see the weigh ins for a couple of fights though before placing.....

[Ultimatemeatball]

The analysis gets more polished and precise each and every card. You guys are on top of your game. Sincere appreciation for everyone sharing their research. Looking back on the past 15-20 cards, it is clear that this pool of knowledge is paying dividends for our bankrolls. Cheers, fellas!

[Snoman]

Lets keep this train rolling fellas! No shit, just picks plays and passes we got this.

[JIBBBY]

^^ Will keep the gravy train rolling!!!

[PaperTrail07]

Ok time to Drop you guys some winners......Fight that scares me-----Whittaker is too big of a favorite-cant straight bet that....he had trouble with Hester himself before his boxing took over....Jones should be10:1 Favorite he IMO....probably juiced and flushed-will be an animal in there....My bets:

Bold are the straight bets: Not nearly as big as black beast or JDS>......not touching mighty either except for parlay...


Fighting - 24002 J. Jones -535 for Game
Fighting - 24006 D. Johnson -420 for Game
Fighting - 24009 E. Barboza +150 for Game
Fighting - 24014 R. Whittaker -315 for Game
Fighting - 24018 Y. Rodriguez -150 for Game
Fighting - 24033 G. Franca +150 for Game
Fighting - 24038 C. East -155 for Game
Fighting - 24041 C. Hester +115 for Game
Fighting - 24046 K. Lee -335 for Game

[PaperTrail07]

Parlay Strictly for Odds:

Fighting - 24009 E. Barboza +155 for Game
Fighting - 24013 R. Natal +260 for Game
Fighting - 24029 J. Lima (W) +160 for Game
Fighting - 24033 G. Franca +160 for Game ----30$ pays close to 2K.....Hedgeable as well....on the last fight consid its only +155.......$$

Feel they all have a legit shot to win their fights....EB should be -110 IMO....I see Franca giving Vick some problems too....Vick -180 is No Bueno....

[PaperTrail07]

#1) UFC Fighting
Selection : J. Jones 4/23/2016 8:00PM - (PST) Money Line -530 for Game

#2) UFC Fighting
Selection : D. Johnson 4/23/2016 8:00PM - (PST) Money Line -440 for Game

#3) MMA Fighting
Selection : B. Henderson 4/22/2016 6:00PM - (PST) Money Line -305 for Game

#4) MMA Fighting
Selection : M. Page 4/22/2016 6:00PM - (PST) Money Line -1035 for Game

#5) MMA Fighting
Selection : B. Primus 4/22/2016 6:00PM - (PST) Money Line -185 for Game


100$ @ 228---no sweat cruiser right here boys....Don't think about it

[PaperTrail07]

De Lima will not be the stronger guy here....don't see it ending well for him---sloppy boxing----guess we will see....Hester is slowly BUT surely learning how to fight...the Whittaker loss woke him up I BELIEVE.....we will see....

[HurlSweatPants]

De Lima will not be the stronger guy here....don't see it ending well for him---sloppy boxing----guess we will see....Hester is slowly BUT surely learning how to fight...the Whittaker loss woke him up I BELIEVE.....we will see....

To me Hester looks to be regressing, and the last few fight I have seen of him were unimpressive. He gave up against Miranda and got pounded out, and this was before the Whittaker fight where it took a round for Whittaker to settle into his gamplan or that could've been over earlier. Before that he barely eeked out a win over Braga Neto and has gassed out after the first round in every fight he has had since the UF. Now that he is moving up a weight class, if he doesn't finish this fight in the first, I don't see him getting out of the fight with a W and predict he will get pounded out in the 2nd or 3rd. Plus his nickname is awful. Headbussa?!?!?!

[PaperTrail07]

Miranda was simply way to much for him IMO.......I honestly think they saw his skill INCREASE so they gave him that fight....well that didn't work out well LOL...you could be right but I just think the skill level drop from people like Miranda and Whittker..to De Lima is just what he needs....I think he will control the clinch and end it with punches or elbows.....De Lima is too sloppy....

To me Hester looks to be regressing, and the last few fight I have seen of him were unimpressive. He gave up against Miranda and got pounded out, and this was before the Whittaker fight where it took a round for Whittaker to settle into his gamplan or that could've been over earlier. Before that he barely eeked out a win over Braga Neto and has gassed out after the first round in every fight he has had since the UF. Now that he is moving up a weight class, if he doesn't finish this fight in the first, I don't see him getting out of the fight with a W and predict he will get pounded out in the 2nd or 3rd. Plus his nickname is awful. Headbussa?!?!?!

[JIBBBY]

^^ Get after it Paper.. GL...

Weigh ins today...

[PaperTrail07]

You too JIBBBBY.....I have been on Fire lately in MMA....it WILL continue...

[HurlSweatPants]

Miranda was simply way to much for him IMO.......I honestly think they saw his skill INCREASE so they gave him that fight....well that didn't work out well LOL...you could be right but I just think the skill level drop from people like Miranda and Whittker..to De Lima is just what he needs....I think he will control the clinch and end it with punches or elbows.....De Lima is too sloppy....

I could def see him controlling the clinch and I can see this being a really ugly fight which I think it has to be for him to win. My concern is that the further it goes the more it favors de Lima. If de Lima comes in with a smart gameplan I think he wins easy. This fight was one that stood out out to me originally but I have waited to see line movement and weigh ins. The lines are moving in your favor as well.

The East fight is a head scratching because the lines continue to go in East favor and I think he is the underdog here.

[PaperTrail07]

Honestly I was impressed by the people he was fighting though....Miranda was obv way ahead on the ground....and Whitt was very impressive boxing...I just don't think De Lima offers much besides a weak ground game/takedowns--(wont get them) and his boxing is sloppy at best...bussa LOL will need to open up with his strikes to win...

To me Hester looks to be regressing, and the last few fight I have seen of him were unimpressive. He gave up against Miranda and got pounded out, and this was before the Whittaker fight where it took a round for Whittaker to settle into his gamplan or that could've been over earlier. Before that he barely eeked out a win over Braga Neto and has gassed out after the first round in every fight he has had since the UF. Now that he is moving up a weight class, if he doesn't finish this fight in the first, I don't see him getting out of the fight with a W and predict he will get pounded out in the 2nd or 3rd. Plus his nickname is awful. Headbussa?!?!?!

[PaperTrail07]

I agree and that's kinda what I see happening....2 guys hugging after a round and 1/2....dirty boxing, elbows ect....If De Lima brings his cardio----you could be 100% right....im hoping he ends up the worn out guy not -Bussa

I could def see him controlling the clinch and I can see this being a really ugly fight which I think it has to be for him to win. My concern is that the further it goes the more it favors de Lima. If de Lima comes in with a smart gameplan I think he wins easy. This fight was one that stood out out to me originally but I have waited to see line movement and weigh ins. The lines are moving in your favor as well.

The East fight is a head scratching because the lines continue to go in East favor and I think he is the underdog here.

[PaperTrail07]

Personally I don't see an angle in the East fight....I just don't know ANYTHING about east and Harris really hasn't been great.....If I had to lean I'd go east too...probably keeps it standing and will be much faster---

[Ty$]

Parlay Strictly for Odds:

Fighting - 24009 E. Barboza +155 for Game
Fighting - 24013 R. Natal +260 for Game
Fighting - 24029 J. Lima (W) +160 for Game
Fighting - 24033 G. Franca +160 for Game ----30$ pays close to 2K.....Hedgeable as well....on the last fight consid its only +155.......$$

Feel they all have a legit shot to win their fights....EB should be -110 IMO....I see Franca giving Vick some problems too....Vick -180 is No Bueno....

No way Natal gets outside round 1

[Shagdogy]

Miranda was simply way to much for him IMO.......I honestly think they saw his skill INCREASE so they gave him that fight....well that didn't work out well LOL...you could be right but I just think the skill level drop from people like Miranda and Whittker..to De Lima is just what he needs....I think he will control the clinch and end it with punches or elbows.....De Lima is too sloppy....

My thinking here is 1) De Lima has more power by quite a bit. 2) De Lima has a better chin. Hard to bet against a guy who has a significant power and chin advantage. Can't take Hester for this reason. Haven't decided if I will take De Lima. I like him though.

[PaperTrail07]

Out of round 1 LOL....you sir are out of your mind LOL....

No way Natal gets outside round 1

[PaperTrail07]

Valid Points...I just don't think he will land his power shots....gas and look stupid....BUUUT...again valid---both have tough chins but his IS stronger....GL this weekend Shag......

My thinking here is 1) De Lima has more power by quite a bit. 2) De Lima has a better chin. Hard to bet against a guy who has a significant power and chin advantage. Can't take Hester for this reason. Haven't decided if I will take De Lima. I like him though.

[PaperTrail07]

Natal still has a few tricks u his sleeve....he will makei it out of round 1 ---IF I HAD TO HONESTLY GUESS...30-27-20-27 29-89 Whitt by decision.....Hopig natalsteals the decision...