[proposition joe]

I dont even know how to respond. Some of you people are nuts. I just started getting into betting. I figured i should learn more about sports betting like understanding strategies, moneylines, and all the different terms associated with betting. Sure im great at picking winners but i wanted to educate myself more. I made a account at a site called pregame. Made my picks on there and then I started browsing around on several betting sites mma forums and figured these people need serious help. I mean the predictions, anlysis, etc was atroshis! I picked out my favorite 4 sites and in order to show i knew what i was talking about i posted the same message on the four sites i picked. Reason being was to show i know more than the average joe and give someone a reason to pay attention to my picks so they could get real insight and win more money than they lost. So to the freaks, please stop jumping down my throat because your jealous of my knowledge or whatever other reason. Theres nothing to "find out". It isnt a conspiracy. Settle down. To the people who want my picks and anlysis please keep reading my threads. TO the others........GET LOST. GET A LIFE.

Shut the f u c k up.

You really must suck at everything else in life to get such a hard-on over yourself picking a few winners on ONE UFC card. Go fuuck yourself. Seriously. I can tell you want to, you self-lusting sexually depraved shithole. I'll stand outside and make sure that no is coming, except for you of course as you fantasize about yourself finally gaining recognition as being the MMA genius that you are. You scream "Blades, oooooh, Blades. F u c k me harder Blades!!" But it doesn't change anything. You are already pounding yourself as hard as you can possibly pound an overzealous MMA-motherfucking-genius-lyrical-wordsmith's vagina. Loser.

[proposition joe]

no offense, by the way

[Hannibal]

hey, did you get my pm?

[BallinBlades]

Hey hannibal yah i got your message, it just wont let me message back till i have 20 posts. As soon as i do i will hit you back with a long message bro. But for now all i will say is your right on with your assestment and thats the closest fight i could see as being a lock. Your right on with your thoughts.

[BallinBlades]

Prop Joe, why you so mad hater? Did you lose a bet today or something?

[Vaughany]

no offense, by the way

[SportsPedagogy]

I have fought over 15 amatuer fights

This can easily be confirmed ... whats your name ? No offense but i am going to call B.S. As an actually fighter myself i have ever even heard of somebody having 15 amateur fights ... the point is to get a few under your belt and go pro ...

[SportsPedagogy]

Never mind .. found your name. ... ill take a look after class.

[SATERSTYLE]

This can easily be confirmed ... whats your name ? No offense but i am going to call B.S. As an actually fighter myself i have ever even heard of somebody having 15 amateur fights ... the point is to get a few under your belt and go pro ...

Haven't you heard? For some of our less developed brethren, as is the case with BallinBlades, waking up in the morning and brushing your teeth correctly can be considered an amateur fight.

[5mike5]

oops....lmao

[BallinBlades]

Sports pedagogy, You are clown. You call bs? Really? WTF do you know? I mean seriously. There are tons of trolls on this site. I have fought for warriors of the cage in alpena michigan numerous times. If you think its EVERYONE'S goal is to get a few fights under your belt and then go pro your high. Here in michigan there is no world class gyms except in detroit at james lee's mash gym. So if you dont live near detroit and cant train at mash, you aint going pro. Even if you did go pro, good luck because if your not training at a great gym your going to get devoured when you actually fight decently good pro's.

Not everyones goal is to go pro. Out of over a hundred mma fighters i either know, have trained with, fought, or whatever only 4 that i know of here in michigan have gone pro. All 4 of those guys were amatuer champions and turned pro and fought king of the cage. Neither of those 4 guys have gone anywhere near the top of king of the cage either. Ya wanna know why there smart 1? There not training at mash in detroit or out of state and at respectable gym. Call bs all you want, your not the first or the last. Most guys do it for fun, exercise, sport, etc. Like i said 4 percent if that of the guys i know seriously went pro here in michigan. I know guys with over 40 amatuer fights. While some are a little naive and think they can make it without proper gym and good legit sparring partners, most are not that naive and just enjoy the competition, excitment, adrenaline, etc. The naive ones who do think theyre going to go pro after a few fights here in michigan find out really fast they have to either move to detroit or move close to a respectable gym out of state and train full time. 90 percent of guys cant and will not make that commitment. I dont know about other states but i would guess close to 90 percent of amatuer fighters in the united states wont go pro and most of them dont think hey ill get a few fights then turn pro.

So im calling bs on you guy. You dont know shit.

[Vaughany]

Good to see that ur not one of the naive ones Ballin....fair play bruva

[5mike5]

Never mind .. found your name. ... ill take a look after class.

embarassing

[BallinBlades]

Also smart guy, if you know of anywhere were i can check amatuer mma records please by all means let me know. I know plenty of places to check pro mma records but amatuer.......? Good luck with that guy. You know how many unsanctioned mma fights go on every week? Good luck finding the results for them and even better luck finding individual amatuer records. Unless its a big pro circuit with amatuer fights on the undercard of say king of the cage, gladiator challenge, or any other big promotion you are not going to find much. I have tried numerous times to find info about amatuers have not found much. I can tell you i have had gym's including mash, promoters, etc, try to recruit me after watching one of my fights. Alot of them say i have natural talent and want to help refine my skills because they see something in me. Some want to really help and promote me while others just want a fairly good guy to throw to one of there best guys thinking theyll get him a good win. I have a family and a life and even though i would love to train full time i cant make that commitment and will not. So call bs all you want, it dont bother me, i just like making trolls like you look dumb.

[Vaughany]

Yeah I was wondering that (where to find amatuer records)?

[BallinBlades]

You dont have to like me or read my posts. I came here to make friends, share knowledge, and make money. Not to argue. I hate liars and guys who think they know more than they do just as much as the next guy. I have no reason to lie and i am not that guy who bs's just about every topic they speak about. Hopefully you will all see my posts, picks, anlysis, etc and see i am for real. If not i dont really care, like i said i just want to talk mma and make some money, while helping anyone out. I look in other forums here on sbr for nba, nfl, mlb advice, picks, information, to learn more about sports betting etc. I figure i could share some of mine. Maybe i shouldnt have came out saying im so good blah, blah, blah, but i know i am. I guess i should have thought it through first. I will just have to let my picks and knowledge speak for itself. Hope we can all get along and have fun.

[hancocks]

Sherdog keeps a good record don't they?

[Vaughany]

[BallinBlades]

Sherdog is for pro records.

[NunyaBidness]

Yeah I was wondering that (where to find amatuer records)?

http://fcfdb.com/

Chandler Blades isn't listed though. (Not saying he's lying, but the organization he fights for doesn't list their records there) Alpena, MI is right next to bumfuck idaho FWIW.

[NunyaBidness]

Pretty sure Chandler Blades and Luke Rockhold should meet in a porno and rub their dongs together. Ultimate dong fighting championship.

[Vaughany]

http://fcfdb.com/

Chandler Blades isn't listed though. (Not saying he's lying, but the organization he fights for doesn't list their records there) Alpena, MI is right next to bumfuck idaho FWIW.

Pretty sure Chandler Blades and Luke Rockhold should meet in a porno and rub their dongs together. Ultimate dong fighting championship.

hahhaa that's some funny shiiit right there! Literally LOL!

[Educ8d Degener8]

http://fcfdb.com/

Chandler Blades isn't listed though. (Not saying he's lying, but the organization he fights for doesn't list their records there) Alpena, MI is right next to bumfuck idaho FWIW.

Nunya, I'm buying you a map homez.

[more_betterness]

Good lord, if this guy loses on friday this thread is going to be amazing.

[SportsPedagogy]

Well chad, i can not find anything about you. You are not on MixedMartialArts.com which is where all sanctioned and some unsanctioned Amateur and Pro MMA fights are recorded. You can also check through each states athletic commission.

I am not calling BS that you are a fighter or that you train. You obviously have proof of a fight. What I a calling BS on is your supposed record. Here is why. you initially said you have over 15 fights ... why beat around the bush ? Why not be straightforward and say i have 16 fights ... you later go onto to say you are 13-2-1 ... almost every fake record i have heard somebody claim has a draw or a NC on it ... i am not sure why. Very rarely do those happen ... but people alway think if they add it to their record then it makes it look better.

Do you know what the average amateur MMA record is ? 0-1. There are alot of guys who decide to fight, they lose and realize they would rather watch it on TV. The average amount of fights for a guy who goes pro is about 3.5 ... then you have guys who fight off and on about 8 times in their life and quit ... after about 8 .. you kinda have to decide if you want to go pro or not. I will present you with Rod Housley, he was a retired cop who fought for fun in ICE, an origination in Ohio. After 10 fights in 4 years the Ohio Athletic commission told him that he was no longer an amateur and that he would need to begin fighting pro or stop fighting. Rod does not train at a big gym, but did go pro and fought other pros around his level in small shows that most have never even heard of.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/f/F8...odney-Housley/

Here is Cameron Dollar ..
He went 3-4 as an amateur before going pro where he fought on local shows .. he even went 1-1 vs an old Hispanic bouncer who is a buddy of mine, Jose Luis Murillo ... Jose trains himself... some times he would go to a few different schools and get a training session in ... he went 5-3 before being told he needs to go pro. He fights exclusively on smaller shows.

The point is ... there comes a time when the athletic commission's will not force you to go pro, but they will tell you that there is basically nobody they they will authorize for you to fight at the amateur level. There are always odd cases, but i would be willing to bet that your record is fabricated. Take no offense to this, but i do not think the opponent you fought in the video you posted has ever even trained before ..he simply stood up while being triangled instead of going onto his knees and posturing up or trying escape ... he also tapped the ground ... the first thing that you learn when training BJJ is you always tap your opponent. Granted, in an MMA match, your opponent will not stop until the ref breaks it up. it is just a habit developed when you grapple often.

If you were able to prove your record, i would gladly eat my words. I am man enough to admit when i am wrong.
I do feel that your record is erroneous when it comes to MMA capping and understanding the sport. Some of the worst MMA fighters became the best coaches.

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/f/D8...hawn-Tompkins/

So congrats on your last card. Best of luck in the future.

[BallinBlades]

SportsPedalogy, I dont even know where to start. You say most people who make up records say they have a tie, no contest, or whatever. Never heard of that 1 myself and havent met any guys who i found out were lying who claimed this. The fight i had a no contest in was when they threw me to a shark. I showed up and the guy i was suppost to fight was a no show. They said the only other fight they could find me was with a guy who was actually had just turned pro and i did not know that. I think they had it all set up from the beginning because i was beating all theyre 155'ers. I said okay and took the fight. The guy was alot better than i expected obviously but it was a close fight untill he punched me in the throat. I went down and he came into finish the fight. The ref pushed the guy down and stopped the fight. It was declared a no contest. Luckily the ref had no affiliation with the fighter or his team or else they probably would have said it was clean and he won the fight.

Next you say that fighters are forced to stop fighting amatuer? Seriously? Never heard of that in my life and i have been to many shows and know alot of people in the michigan mma scene. 99 percent of amatuers are never going to really make it. So they fight amatuer. Yes some quit and some keep fighting. All these figures your throwing out there are shit. It sounds like your making alot of this shit up as you go. My favorite two of your claims are that amatuers fighters normally only have 3 fights and the one about how most guys who make up records say they have a no contest......lmfao. Here in michigan there is no sanctioning bodies or regulations. All a promoter has to do is be approved to put on a show by the boxing commision in michigan. That would be why my record is not documented retard. Check out these links before you spew any more garbage. http://www.ifightsports.com/USAStates.htm and http://www.ifightsports.com/USAStates.htm. I dont doubt your a fighter but you kind of have me curious with some of the stuff you are saying. What state are you in? Maybe your state is more regulated than mine. So before you go saying this and that why dont you research things a bit. I provided 2 links above so go educate yourself.

The third thing is you claim the guy i was fighting never had any training. Actually he trained at out of traverse city with a gym called great lakes mma. He was a good wrestler and at the time was 3-0. You say he didnt defend my triangle right. That tells me right there you dont know much. There are so many variations, theories, and escapes from a triangle. A popular one is whats called stacking which he attempted to do. Here is a clip of bas rutten showing a triangle escape http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Zes...3E300A9C5FAEC8

I dont care if you dont beleive me or not. Despite what you say i did pretty good last weekend with my picks and my anylsis on habib nurmagomedov was very good as well. So please stop hating.

[gabe]

SportsPedalogy, I dont even know where to start. You say most people who make up records say they have a tie, no contest, or whatever. Never heard of that 1 myself and havent met any guys who i found out were lying who claimed this. The fight i had a no contest in was when they threw me to a shark. I showed up and the guy i was suppost to fight was a no show. They said the only other fight they could find me was with a guy who was actually had just turned pro and i did not know that. I think they had it all set up from the beginning because i was beating all theyre 155'ers. I said okay and took the fight. The guy was alot better than i expected obviously but it was a close fight untill he punched me in the throat. I went down and he came into finish the fight. The ref pushed the guy down and stopped the fight. It was declared a no contest. Luckily the ref had no affiliation with the fighter or his team or else they probably would have said it was clean and he won the fight. Next you say that fighters are forced to stop fighting amatuer? Seriously? Never heard of that in my life and i have been to many shows and know alot of people in the michigan mma scene. 99 percent of amatuers are never going to really make it. So they fight amatuer. Yes some quit and some keep fighting. All these figures your throwing out there are shit. It sounds like your making alot of this shit up as you go. My favorite two of your claims are that amatuers fighters normally only have 3 fights and the one about how most guys who make up records say they have a no contest......lmfao. Here in michigan there is no sanctioning bodies or regulations. All a promoter has to do is be approved to put on a show by the boxing commision in michigan. That would be why my record is not documented retard. Check out these links before you spew any more garbage. http://www.ifightsports.com/USAStates.htm and http://www.ifightsports.com/USAStates.htm. I dont doubt your a fighter but you kind of have me curious with some of the stuff you are saying. What state are you in? Maybe your state is more regulated than mine. So before you go saying this and that why dont you research things a bit. I provided 2 links above so go educate yourself. The third thing is you claim the guy i was fighting never had any training. Actually he trained at out of traverse city with a gym called great lakes mma. He was a good wrestler and at the time was 3-0. You say he didnt defend my triangle right. That tells me right there you dont know much. There are so many variations, theories, and escapes from a triangle. A popular one is whats called stacking which he attempted to do. Here is a clip of bas rutten showing a triangle escape http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Zes...3E300A9C5FAEC8 I dont care if you dont beleive me or not. Despite what you say i did pretty good last weekend with my picks and my anylsis on habib nurmagomedov was very good as well. So please stop hating.

where is your analysis?

[Educ8d Degener8]

where is your analysis?

See his post #50 in this thread, page 2.

[more_betterness]

Despite what you say i did pretty good last weekend with my picks and my anylsis on habib nurmagomedov was very good as well. So please stop hating.

Usually I determine if my "anylsis" of a fighter was correct after the fight in question actually happens?

[gabe]

he forgot a comma.

[BallinBlades]

MoreBetterness, Not sure what you mean? I was breaking him down as a fighter. Not what i thought the outcome of the fight was going to be. I went with stats, fight videos, etc, then posted what i thought of him as a fighter as requested. I think it was a great anlysis of him as a fighter. Thats what i was asked to do. If you disagree please do your homework on Habib and tell me what you think was wrong about my breakdown of him.

[SportsPedagogy]

That was not a stacking triangle escape, that got was standing there trying to strike his way out of a triangle. Please do not insult our intelligence by trying to pass him off as a knowledgeable fighter.

As i thought, you have nothing to back up your record besides your word. 16 fights and all you have to show from it is some 20 second video ? No links to a results page from the organizations web sites? I am not a hater, you made a claim and i am asking you if you can verify it.

i am not complaining about your handicapping, from that one card, it looks good .... dont get to excited though, almost everybody on here does very well in MMA gambling. It is easily the most profitable section on this site.

B.T.W. when i went to basic training, we had a guy who convinced everyone that he fought diego sanchez in the UFC ... the guy weighed more then me. i knew he was lying so i waited until we did combatives before i called him out. Then i caught him in the most embarrassing thing i could think of, a knee-bar from north-south. I hate when people lie about their MMA accomplishments and if you are who you say you, then you should as well.

[gabe]

In an MMA organization where you're allowed to soccer kick downed opponents in the face, is it legal to sit on your opponents face and fart til he taps/chokes out?

[FightFightFight]

he forgot a comma.

Lol.

[The HOFF]

http://www.myspace.com/video/ballinb...fight/26764915

Holy shit. People still use MySpace? I thought it was only for poor people and foreigners.