Originally Posted by
MMAbetMASTA
I think some are underestimating tate's pure grappling skills. Everyone called me crazy for saying tate's jitz was better than coenen's and that she might hand her the first sub loss, and it happened. Her grappling is very underrated. Tate's a wrestler, but what's scary is a wrestler who's naturally adapted bjj (or they don't call it bjj at team alpha right? lol) and has used it effectively in her wrestling and top positional control.
I don't know enough about ronda outside of her pre-mma credentials, one fight I've seen, and what I have read on a fight finder (and I know she's a new comer, but her competition is less than stellar and tate's a HUGe step up who's fought vastly superior comp).
Yet it appears ronda's got the one gold gift - armbar. Somethign tells me tate is aware of this and I think her grappling might be competent enough to defend it. However, I could see size being an issue as ronda appears pretty thick and I'm assuming her judo gives her a great base and balance, so if tate does feel confident enough to take it down and fight on top - she might not be so successful or could succemb to being on her back under a larger woman, which I think is definitely tate's weakest area and the last place she wants to be against ronda . This is what scares me, as I know tate isn't a big 135er at all and that ronda might muscle her around. But like someone else said, ronda's size and first cut since high school could be detrimental and might benefit tate in the end...ronda could fade / gas past the first and tate could very well feel confident, get a td, and control her on top.
I'm gonna research ronda more, but if tate survives the first round I think her chances of winning go up dramatically as there are a lot of 'ifs' and questions surrounding ronda, or at least to me there are. I think it would be crazy to pay such a high price on a woman who is quite new and is fihgting a woman who is arguably one of the most well rounded female mma athletes.
To me, right now the value is clearly on tate... the pick on paper might be ronda and I can see why people favor her, but again she is being way overvalued and you're playing with fire by paying that juice imo. Not saying I'm gonna play tate, but I'm definitely not gonna take ronda at that price.