UFC 178: Johnson vs. Cariaso (September 27, 2014)

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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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    #1
    UFC 178: Johnson vs. Cariaso (September 27, 2014)


    Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET
    Demetrious Johnson vs. Chris Cariaso
    Eddie Alvarez vs. Donald Cerrone
    Conor McGregor vs. Dustin Poirier
    Tim Kennedy vs. Yoel Romero
    Amanda Nunes vs. Cat Zingano

    FOX Sports 1, 8 p.m. ET
    Dominick Cruz vs. Takeya Mizugaki
    James Krause vs. Jorge Masvidal
    Patrick Cote vs. Stephen Thompson
    Brian Ebersole vs. John Howard

    UFC Fight Pass, 7 p.m. ET
    Kevin Lee vs. Jon Tuck
    Manny Gamburyan vs. Cody Gibson

  • Lick496
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    • 12-07-11
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    #2
    debating going to this event live... tickets are a bit high
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    • THE_LOCKSMITH
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      #3
      Interesting, Kennedy opened at -130 now up to +117. How the impression of Romero changes from fight to fight
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      • Wilbo86
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        • 01-22-14
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        #4
        I'll ride him until he gets popped for juicing

        Edit: referring to Romero, but the former would be hilarious
        Last edited by Wilbo86; 09-04-14, 11:07 PM.
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        • Sacrelicious
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          #5
          Kennedy +117....lol
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          • MD
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            #6
            I feel as if that fight depends on whether Romero chooses​ to win or not. The guy can do pretty much anything in MMA, he just has really shitty gameplanning.
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            • Bava
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              #7
              Originally posted by MD
              I feel as if that fight depends on whether Romero chooses​ to win or not. The guy can do pretty much anything in MMA, he just has really shitty gameplanning.
              Haha shitty gameplanning
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              • Wilbo86
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                • 01-22-14
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                #8
                Are you referring to his penchant for Cuban Steamers?
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                • Vaughany
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                  • 03-07-10
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                  #9
                  Why is the GOAT not headlining this

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                  • Sacrelicious
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                    • 11-29-12
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                    #10
                    I like John Dodson by KO in the main event.
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                    • mmaed
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                      • 11-25-11
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                      #11
                      Interesting. I thought kennedy would open as a bigger favorite.
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                      • getlucky2win
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                        #12
                        got mcgregor as a dog. lmao. probly take alot of dogs. all favs seem lil overpriced. leanin eddie but gots 2 watch more tape on all these fuckers
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                        • Sacrelicious
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                          #13
                          Who is Eddie Alvarez?
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                          • Vaughany
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by getlucky2win
                            got mcgregor as a dog. lmao. probly take alot of dogs. all favs seem lil overpriced. leanin eddie but gots 2 watch more tape on all these fuckers
                            Do tell?
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                            • MD
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                              Do tell?
                              Opened +190.
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                              • Vaughany
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                                • 03-07-10
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                                #16
                                oh yeah, on Bookmaker?! since when have they started releasing lines first again
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                                • marzwoody
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                                  #17
                                  Alvarez is gonna get starched
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                                  • Crassus
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                                    #18
                                    Mizugaki at +310 is a joke.
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                                    • TheCalculator
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Crassus
                                      Mizugaki at +310 is a joke.
                                      Especially with Cruz's decade long layoff.
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                                      • Sacrelicious
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                                        #20
                                        Who is Eddie Alvarez?
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                                        • Beelzebubzy
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                                          #21
                                          Am I the only one who thinks that Cruz should be -700?
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                                          • mirinquads
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                            Am I the only one who thinks that Cruz should be -700?
                                            I agree. Perfect style to beat Miz, and Cruz isn't the type to go in there knowing he isn't 100 %, or close to it.
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                                            • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                              #23
                                              next...
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                                              • Skel
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                                                #24


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                                                • Skel
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                  Am I the only one who thinks that Cruz should be -700?
                                                  No. I can only assume that people are giving the layoff/injuries a lot of weight. We still might see a lot of steam on him this week, though.
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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    #26
                                                    This should be an easy card to win for all of us.. Just glancing at the line up and I can tell already whom I'm gonna play that's up on the board.... Not gonna be alot of capping from me in this event.. Gonna keep this one simple..

                                                    -Mighty Mouse Johnson (no play because of the odds)
                                                    -Cowboy Cerrone
                                                    -Conor McGregor
                                                    -Tim Kennedy
                                                    -Cat Zingano
                                                    -Dominique Cruz

                                                    Probably gonna hit these guys below also.. Just need to cap these 5 fights a little more just in case..

                                                    -Jorge Masvidal
                                                    -Stephan Thompson
                                                    -John Howard
                                                    -John Tuck
                                                    -Cody Gibson
                                                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-20-14, 07:13 PM.
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                                                    • Bava
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                      This should be an easy card to win for all of us.. Just glancing at the line up and I can tell already whom I'm gonna play that's up on the board.... Not gonna be alot of capping from me in this event.. Gonna keep this one simple..

                                                      -Mighty Mouse Johnson (no play because of the odds)
                                                      -Cowboy Cerrone
                                                      -Conor McGregor
                                                      -Tim Kennedy
                                                      -Cat Zingano
                                                      -Dominique Cruz

                                                      Probably gonna hit these guys below also.. Just need to cap these 5 fights a little more just in case..

                                                      -Jorge Masvidal
                                                      -Stephan Thompson
                                                      -John Howard
                                                      -John Tuck
                                                      -Cody Gibson

                                                      I can't find any info on Dominique Cruz, but she sounds super hot. I hope you go heavy on Kennedy, can't wait to hear your breakdown on this
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                                                      • Bava
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                                                        #28
                                                        It is heartwarming to picture you searching the keyboard for the letter q, so you can spell the name "Dominick". You are not an MMA writer.

                                                        Seriously though, Kennedy is a complete douche (it does make a significant difference when judging talent), and his offense is undeniably grappling/wrestling-based: Romero keeps his freestyle silver medal in a bigger and cleaner box than the one he trained in when he won it, and he has proven that he will literally shit himself before he relents. If he wrestles half as competently as he did in the Tavares fight, this should be easy and very, very satisfying. I'm surprised that the odds are so close, and shocked to read that Yoel opened as the underdog.

                                                        Other notes: Cruz still has value at -370. Connor was great when I got him at -170, but -265 is stupid against Poirier. Cerrone is an absolute steal at close numbers. As far as the main card goes, Cerrone and Romero feel like the best bets. Emoticon
                                                        Last edited by Bava; 09-21-14, 02:41 AM.
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                                                        • Jim_Gunn
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                          Am I the only one who thinks that Cruz should be -700?
                                                          That's crazy talk after his repeated injuries and almost three years off and coming back against a good fighter like Mizugaki. -700 would be unbettable anyway even if it made sense.
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                                                          • MD
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                                                            That's crazy talk after his repeated injuries and almost three years off and coming back against a good fighter like Mizugaki. -700 would be unbettable anyway even if it made sense.
                                                            JIB_Gunn has spoken.

                                                            Originally posted by Bava
                                                            It is heartwarming to picture you searching the keyboard for the letter q, so you can spell the name "Dominick". You are not an MMA writer.

                                                            Seriously though, Kennedy is a complete douche (it does make a significant difference when judging talent), and his offense is undeniably grappling/wrestling-based: Romero keeps his freestyle silver medal in a bigger and cleaner box than the one he trained in when he won it, and he has proven that he will literally shit himself before he relents. If he wrestles half as competently as he did in the Tavares fight, this should be easy and very, very satisfying. I'm surprised that the odds are so close, and shocked to read that Yoel opened as the underdog.

                                                            Other notes: Cruz still has value at -370. Connor was great when I got him at -170, but -265 is stupid against Poirier. Cerrone is an absolute steal at close numbers. As far as the main card goes, Cerrone and Romero feel like the best bets. Emoticon
                                                            Disagree with you a bit. Romero's ability to double-leg Tavares has very little to do with his ability to stop Kennedy from bodylocking him. If Kennedy gets someone down, they're probably not getting back up, but Romero is excellent in this area, so who knows. I'm not necessarily saying that there isn't value on Romero, though. Still watching tape on that one.

                                                            Conor should be -500; Poirier will look silly in this fight.
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                                                            • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                              This should be an easy card to win for all of us.. Just glancing at the line up and I can tell already whom I'm gonna play that's up on the board.... Not gonna be alot of capping from me in this event.. Gonna keep this one simple..

                                                              -Mighty Mouse Johnson (no play because of the odds)
                                                              -Cowboy Cerrone
                                                              -Conor McGregor
                                                              -Tim Kennedy
                                                              -Cat Zingano
                                                              -Dominick Cruz

                                                              Probably gonna hit these guys below also.. Just need to cap these 5 fights a little more just in case..

                                                              -Jorge Masvidal ?
                                                              -Stephan Thompson
                                                              -John Howard
                                                              -John Tuck Kevin Lee
                                                              -Cody Gibson ?
                                                              Fixed it for ya Jibster.
                                                              Last edited by Ron_Paul_2012; 09-21-14, 11:04 AM.
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                                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Bava
                                                                I can't find any info on Dominique Cruz, but she sounds super hot. I hope you go heavy on Kennedy, can't wait to hear your breakdown on this
                                                                LOL.. Dominique is a pretty hot brunette, cute and loving in the clinch, very aggressive in the top position though, likes to keep it standing in the shower, bit of freak at times she is.

                                                                Bava I can always count on you with a spell check.. Thanks man..

                                                                Dominick Cruz it is!!!! Dude hasn't fought in so long I forgot how to spell her name...
                                                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-21-14, 12:04 PM.
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                                                                • marzwoody
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Alvarez is a can. surprised if he makes it to the third round. Romero winning depends on what Romero shows up. Dominick is no where near a lock. his fighting dancing abilities might be hindered by all his injuries.
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                                                                    Fixed it for ya Jibster.
                                                                    Good call on Mark Hunt Ronny by the way... I should have listened to ya in the PM's as you were calling that fight from the very start!!!. Keep up the hot winning steak....
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by MD
                                                                      JIB_Gunn has spoken.



                                                                      Disagree with you a bit. Romero's ability to double-leg Tavares has very little to do with his ability to stop Kennedy from bodylocking him. If Kennedy gets someone down, they're probably not getting back up, but Romero is excellent in this area, so who knows. I'm not necessarily saying that there isn't value on Romero, though. Still watching tape on that one.
                                                                      My thoughts are that Kennedy wears down Romero as the fight continues with his pace and cardio and just basically beats Romero on points standing... Avoids the take downs after the 1st round... It should be a competitive fight regardless.. With that being said - I really like this fight to go the distance more then anything else to be honest..
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