[Vaughany]

doesn't sound like a good bet to me. if you like vitor, just take him straight. i don't see him getting a devastating KO in rd 1. maybe in the 2nd half of the fight.

He's never finished a fighter in the third round and about 90% of his finishes were in the first. His best bet is to swarm Rumble early before he settles

[proposition joe]

Belfort is a huge play for me. Will be my biggest play to date if the lines on Bookmaker resemble those that are out

[NunyaBidness]

Belfort is a huge play for me. Will be my biggest play to date if the lines on Bookmaker resemble those that are out

What do you see?

[proposition joe]

What do you see?

Ill go into detail about my perception of this matchup once Bookmaker lines are out but I really, really like Belfort to get the finish. I think that AJ will stand with him and get put to sleep early but even if Rumble wants to wrestle, I believe that Belfort is a much more explosive and strong athlete than the guys that Johnson has been able to outgrapple and that it would be a very different challenge for him. I really don't like Rumble moving up in weight and I also consider Vitor to be one of the most dangerous fighters in the UFC as far as finishing ability.

[TheCalculator]

Ill go into detail about my perception of this matchup once Bookmaker lines are out but I really, really like Belfort to get the finish. I think that AJ will stand with him and get put to sleep early but even if Rumble wants to wrestle, I believe that Belfort is a much more explosive and strong athlete than the guys that Johnson has been able to outgrapple and that it would be a very different challenge for him. I really don't like Rumble moving up in weight and I also consider Vitor to be one of the most dangerous fighters in the UFC as far as finishing ability.

Fight NOT going distance is the safest bet here.

[gabe]

Is there a book that'll give me action for Rumble via Anaconda choke in Rd. 2?

86.4% chance that hits.

[Vaughany]

Is there a book that'll give me action for Rumble via Anaconda choke in Rd. 2?

86.4% chance that hits.

nah nore like 87.7% for me

[gabe]

nah nore like 87.7% for me

i just re-did the math, and you are right. i forgot to include vitor's hometown influence. that's another 1.3% right there.

[Vaughany]

[gabe]

Vince Vaughany, if the UFC goes to Amsterdam, will you go?

[Vaughany]

Vince Vaughany, if the UFC goes to Amsterdam, will you go?

Most probably. I've been to most the UK ones, and couple of buddies I took to 138 who aren't that in to it enjoyed the event so much that they said they'd be up for going to the Sweden one supposedly happenin in March or sumin.

[proposition joe]

Fight NOT going distance is the safest bet here.

IF Rumble wins, I think it will be decision

[gabe]

IF Rumble wins, I think it will be decision

Anderson's foot hitting Belfort's face put him out... Imagine the tree trunks that hit Charlie Brenneman in the head all over Vitor's face...

[proposition joe]

Anderson's foot hitting Belfort's face put him out... Imagine the tree trunks that hit Charlie Brenneman in the head all over Vitor's face...

If Rumble stands, he gets knocked out. Charlie Brenneman ate that kick and he is a nonstriking 170 lb wrestler. I'm not saying it wasn't a good stoppage but that kicks was in no way comparable to an Anderson Silva teep to the chin.

[more_betterness]

Toquinho -350
Massenzio +250

on 5dimes

[more_betterness]

andddd Palhares down to -475. That was quick

[jeedee]

I really don't like Rumble moving up in weight and I also consider Vitor to be one of the most dangerous fighters in the UFC as far as finishing ability.

I disagree.

I'll say Rumble takes the safe route and grinds out the victory with his wrestling.

Rumble when he was at 170, cuts around 40 pounds just to make 170, and it drains him. Him moving to 185 is a great move. He cuts less weight to make 185 and will only be more explosive at 185 than at 170.

It's fun as hell watching Vitor crush cans, but he hasn't fought anyone credible since 2008.

Matt Lindland?
Rich Franklin? Fading fighter
Anderson? Yeah look how the fight turned out for him
Akiyama? Overrated

[PunisherIND]

andddd Palhares down to -475. That was quick

bah! i'll throw palhares into a few parlays and maybe a sub prop depending on the line. but straight up at -475 is not worth it. the guy is too unstable to lay that much juice on him.

[more_betterness]

I put enough to win a unit down on him at -350... Wont touch -475

[gabe]

Rousimar fell from -350 to -540 and Erick Silva fell from -420 to -475

This is no fun for betting. I was gonna POUND POUND POUND Palhares if he was around -250/-300 but now am actually considering a small play on Mikey Mike Massenzio.

[Vaughany]

Rousimar fell from -350 to -540 and Erick Silva fell from -420 to -475

This is no fun for betting. I was gonna POUND POUND POUND Palhares if he was around -250/-300 but now am actually considering a small play on Mikey Mike Massenzio.

Same

[Vaughany]

Kalikas releases Barboza as -235 favourite against Etim (+175).

[Beelzebubzy]

Kalikas releases Barboza as -235 favourite against Etim (+175).

thought it would be closer with Etim's 'dominant win' over Faalattooo

[gabe]

[Vaughany]

ha was just about to post tht Gabe...BEAST mode!

[more_betterness]

Holy shit! Can't believe that its even physically possible for that guy to make 170.

[Vaughany]

Etim at +200 now

[gabe]

You guys said you were on Etim, right?

Please start placing your bets so Barboza drops =)

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

guessing that Etim is a big dog based on his loss to another Brazilian dos Anjos, think most consider Barboza better

[Beelzebubzy]

guessing that Etim is a big dog based on his loss to another Brazilian dos Anjos, think most consider Barboza better

cant really place Etim anywhere. His one win in two years is against Faa in a 19 second sub.
I would take Etim as Barbazo has not KOed a UFC LW and has gone to questionable close decision in his last 2 fights.

[koscheckbaby]

Any opinions on Stout vs Tavares? Weird fight. In some ways, Tavares should have this in the bag. In others, Stout could win easily. Tavares is a way more complete fighter and has the style to win easily with his BJJ. But he's a pussy that got KO'd by Shane ******* Roller, so Hands of Decision maybe gets another bullshit KO and acts like his nickname "Hands of Stone" is legit.

[gabe]

Any opinions on Stout vs Tavares? Weird fight. In some ways, Tavares should have this in the bag. In others, Stout could win easily. Tavares is a way more complete fighter and has the style to win easily with his BJJ. But he's a pussy that got KO'd by Shane ******* Roller, so Hands of Decision maybe gets another bullshit KO and acts like his nickname "Hands of Stone" is legit.

i was thinking the same.

[Beelzebubzy]

Tavares is chinny, he has been rocked in most of his fights and has not beaten a decent name in some time.
Stout has shown great sub defense (see Lauzon Rd 1)
Regarding his lack of KOs, he has fought some guys with great chins (Taylor, Lauzon, Stephens, and Wiman)

I think after round 1 of trying to take Stout down, Tavares will gas. However, Tavares boxing looked sharp against Roller (for what thats worth)

[Jordan23]

I fear the PPV buys on this card. The last Brazil card had Anderson Silva, Big Nog, and Shogun and it barely did 300k.... I'd be surprised if this event did 200k. I think we will see the lowest ppv buys in a long time!

[Beelzebubzy]

If you buy on your own, this is def a skip event, especially with the free events coming up.

UFC 143 is not star studded but has Nick Diaz vs Condit and then 144 is a little bit better but no card in recent memory has been 'stacked' besides 140 or 136