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    Can this 5 team parlay work?

    A parlay of UFC 133 and 134: Gustafsson, Evans, Belfort, Silva and Griffin.

    Should I place a small bet on this? Or should I reduce these to 2 team parlays?

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    drop griffin. He will probably not win. If you insist picking griffin which is a stupid idea, do not include him in the parlay. Make a new parlay with him to win a decision @+300 combined with something else.

    But gustafsson, evans, belfort look good in my eyes.

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    Can it work,yes ...........will it ,probably not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    drop griffin. He will probably not win. If you insist picking griffin which is a stupid idea, do not include him in the parlay. Make a new parlay with him to win a decision @+300 combined with something else.

    But gustafsson, evans, belfort look good in my eyes.
    Ok, I'm going to either replace Griffin with another fighter or just keep it as a 4 team parlay.

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    If you like Griffin you should put him in also. If you can get him by decision thats even better. His line indicates that he is the highest risk so if you were more confident in the others maybe do your 4 team parlay for 80% of the bet and then do the 5 team with Griffin for the rest. No parlay is really that safe. You could also make a couple different combos with those 5 fights and just reduce your bets.

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    Agree with bj, drop griffin. Shogun lost the first but I think he's got a good chance to win the rematch.

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    I'm not really sold on Gustafsson as a great bet at the odds. Matt is what he is, a gatekeeper level guy, I'm not sure if Gustafsson is really that much better

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    Matt hamill must grind out a decision to win over gustaffsson, that worked very well against rampage, why cant he just replicate that formula?

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    i feel like youre going against some pretty live dogs. to be honest, i just dont see the value in your parlay :/

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    anything is possible so yes it can work. now its up to you to decide if youll give it a go

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    Try switching Gustafsson for Menjivar, Belfort for Hardy, and Griffin for Rory Mac. Then decide to play them straight instead.

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    No no no. menjivar is good, but it is less risk involved in the gustafsson fight than the menjivar fight. That is because gustafsson can give hamill trouble standing and on the ground, as well as the reach advantage and, basically everything. for the people that have not understood how good gustafsson are, go watch some tape of him or just shut up. tired of defending this super awesome swede.

    Hardy sucks, again, wrong. Rory mac, agreed.

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    Forget the big parlays... just go for 2 (3 max) guys that you are MOST confident in.

    I love Belfort + Silva

    Or Belfort+Silva+Gustafsson

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    A parlay of UFC 133 and 134: Gustafsson, Evans, Belfort, Silva and Griffin.

    Should I place a small bet on this? Or should I reduce these to 2 team parlays?
    Replace Griffin with Hardy, and change Belfort with Sexyama

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    You should go for the safest. Gustaffsson, yes, because he got advantage in 2 areas. silva, yes, 2 areas. Griffin, no no, not at all idiot, he is worse than shogun both standing and on the ground, its absolutely idiotic. evans should also win. Period.

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    even the safest pick sometimes goes to hell. therefor you need to be as gridy and cynical with every bet you make, especially parlays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrecked View Post
    Replace Griffin with Hardy, and change Belfort with Sexyama
    I don't like Hardy at all.
    Last edited by GunShard; 08-04-11 at 04:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post

    I don't like Hardy at all. Belfort could be a bad spot to bet on, I should just ignore that fight.
    Why do you feel Belfort would be a bad spot to be on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FightFightFight View Post
    Try switching Gustafsson for Menjivar, Belfort for Hardy, and Griffin for Rory Mac. Then decide to play them straight instead.
    hahaha this is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post

    I don't like Hardy at all. Belfort could be a bad spot to bet on, I should just ignore that fight.
    Against Lytle? Please.... I love him here.

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    can it yes....will it nopeeeeee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrecked View Post
    Against Lytle? Please.... I love him here.
    Why? Lytle is better everywhere IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chairib View Post
    Why do you feel Belfort would be a bad spot to be on?
    Never mind my previous comment. Belfort looks good against Akiyama after watching the highlight video on these two fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Why? Lytle is better everywhere IMO.
    You think Lytle will be able to take Hardy down or even bother to attempt it? Lytle was considering retiring after the Ebersole fight, his knees are fu**ed. Having dodgy meniscus can seriously effect your ability to box with proper technique and especially shooting for takedowns. I think Hardy has a reasonable chance of stealing a decision

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post

    You think Lytle will be able to take Hardy down or even bother to attempt it? Lytle was considering retiring after the Ebersole fight, his knees are fu**ed. Having dodgy meniscus can seriously effect your ability to box with proper technique and especially shooting for takedowns. I think Hardy has a reasonable chance of stealing a decision
    I don't think he'll steal anything, I think he's going to put Lytle's old ass in his place. The odds are so low because Hardy looks like shit right now, but he's good against stand-up guys, Conditt is just on a rampage right now. Hardy is going to get this win.

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    tito!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    Never mind my previous comment. Belfort looks good against Akiyama after watching the highlight video on these two fighters.
    Watching highlight videos is a recipe for handicapping disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    You think Lytle will be able to take Hardy down or even bother to attempt it? Lytle was considering retiring after the Ebersole fight, his knees are fu**ed. Having dodgy meniscus can seriously effect your ability to box with proper technique and especially shooting for takedowns. I think Hardy has a reasonable chance of stealing a decision
    Yeah, of course Hardy has a chance. Lytle is no world-beater, and may possibly be shot. But Hardy has been one of the most consistently over-rated UFC fighters, coming off 3 tough losses. Lytle should be a legit favorite here. Lytle's fight IQ has been consistently low, but if he WANTS to win the fight he has more ways to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Watching highlight videos is a recipe for handicapping disaster.
    It depends.

    As long as the video is not from more than 5 years ago.

    As long as I watch both fighters highlight videos, not just one fighter's video.

    Paying attention to a fighter's speed, strikes, take down attempts, submission and cardio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    It depends.

    As long as the video is not from more than 5 years ago.

    As long as I watch both fighters highlight videos, not just one fighter's video.

    Paying attention to a fighter's speed, strikes, take down attempts, submission and cardio.
    No it doesn't depend. One of the biggest things you need to take into account when capping a fight is a fighter's big weaknesses, which you can't get from watching a highlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post

    It depends.

    As long as the video is not from more than 5 years ago.

    As long as I watch both fighters highlight videos, not just one fighter's video.

    Paying attention to a fighter's speed, strikes, take down attempts, submission and cardio.
    You're only going get an adequate gauge on things like that by watching the fight in it's entirety. This highlight business is for first time slammers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Yeah, of course Hardy has a chance. Lytle is no world-beater, and may possibly be shot. But Hardy has been one of the most consistently over-rated UFC fighters, coming off 3 tough losses. Lytle should be a legit favorite here. Lytle's fight IQ has been consistently low, but if he WANTS to win the fight he has more ways to win.
    Lytles only way to win is boxing. No way he outwrestles Hardy. Hardy will be stronger in the clinch, giving him one way to win, and faster with his strikes giving him two imo. Wouldnt be surprised to see a stoppage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FightFightFight View Post
    Lytles only way to win is boxing. No way he outwrestles Hardy. Hardy will be stronger in the clinch, giving him one way to win, and faster with his strikes giving him two imo. Wouldnt be surprised to see a stoppage.
    Lytle's the stronger wrester and grappler, you hardly ever see it because he likes to strike. But we're not going to see any grappling in this fight because these two guys are going to throwdown.

    If Hardy hasn't learned to keep his right hand up, he might get KO'd with a left hook...again.

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    Nice, Gustafsson, Evans and Belfort won their fights.

    It's up to Silva and Griffin now to win some of my parlays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    Nice, Gustafsson, Evans and Belfort won their fights.

    It's up to Silva and Griffin now to win some of my parlays.
    great job dude, only the 2 easiest ones left!

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