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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Do you not think Brenneman's line will improve? I cant knock a play on him but also cant help but think his line is going to be closer to +175 to +200 range by fight night. Also think Brenneman by dec at +225 or better will be better value
    It could very well end up at around +175 or higher... but I just expected him to open at around +125 so I made the play. If he winds up at +200 I'll be putting more on him near fight night - and yeah I'm keeping an eye out on the DEC line as well. Rumble could very well come in looking sharp and beat him up, but I can't quite grasp where this guy stands in the WW division... the ferocity doesn't always show up.

    I have a good feeling 2-3 dogs win on VS 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Sportbet/5dimes might not but Bookmaker will. You'll usually only get props on the main event matches on Versus cards.
    Betting fight props on bookmaker is not a good idea. The overround on those lines is almost always 30% or greater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Betting fight props on bookmaker is not a good idea. The overround on those lines is almost always 30% or greater.
    Yeah I tend to avoid them on there. They'll probably have Cruz/Mighty Mouse FOTN at +200

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Betting fight props on bookmaker is not a good idea. The overround on those lines is almost always 30% or greater.
    Indeed. Solid advice. MUCH better elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost kid View Post
    Indeed. Solid advice. MUCH better elsewhere.
    Problem is u wont get FOTN, KOTN, SOTN elsewhere for Fight Night and Versus cards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    Problem is u wont get FOTN, KOTN, SOTN elsewhere for Fight Night and Versus cards
    True V. In time, hopefully this will change. I am hoping for an NBA lockout. This would be great for us MMA diehards. The books would be forced to offer more lines and options.

    I use a local book that used to think I was the biggest pain in the ass. I would call them weekly asking for Bellator and Strikeforce lines. They would always respond "What fight? Who? Is it UFC?".

    In two years time, this has completely changed. They carry every big MMA card now. Most solid books list undercards. Hopefully in time, props will become more widely available as well.

    Of course, it's a double-edged sword. As the sport grows in popularity, the lines get sharper and the value disappears !

    My personal opinion. Screw the overpaid crybabies in the NBA. More fights please.


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    Regarding Struve and Barry, each has a clear path to victory. But who is going to "Victor Ortiz" and implode via stupidity first?

    It's fun to try and predict a winner in this circus act, but to wager real money on a winner? I have to question the sanity of someone who would go big on either side of this one.

    Much better fights to make money on. Just one man's opinion.

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    I look at the Struve/Barry fight as more of a coinflip... that's the only reason I went w/ Struve at +170.
    Struve isn't the smartest fighter... but neither is Barry along w/ his friend complex. It also seems that people are blowing Stefan's glass jaw out of proportion - the guy has been dropped by big shots that would have crumbled anyone. I see a RNC coming Barry's way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post

    You'll usually only get props on the main event matches on Versus cards.
    I can live without prop bets on prelim fights on Versus cards. But just to clarify, will they be adding bets like "Anthony Johnson by KO" or "Cruz/Johnson wins FOTN".

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    if it were a toss-up odds-wise,i could see being reticent...but at +170(or better) given his physical advantages,i`m down with manute...

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    I wonder if Cruz starts getting more criticism if he gets another 5 round decision, would make it 4 in a row if he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH View Post
    I wonder if Cruz starts getting more criticism if he gets another 5 round decision, would make it 4 in a row if he does.
    Yeah but he's not exactly winning decisions in a Fitch way... I haven't seen him in a boring fight yet

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    5Dimes added props.

    Really liking Johnson by decision at +752, Brenneman by decision at +303, Johnson inside the distance at +170, and Wiman inside the distance at +233.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitooch View Post
    5Dimes added props.

    Really liking Johnson by decision at +752, Brenneman by decision at +303, Johnson inside the distance at +170, and Wiman inside the distance at +233.
    They've been up since yesterday bro.

    Mighty Mouse by decision at +752 is value if anybody thinks he has a chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    They've been up since yesterday bro.

    Mighty Mouse by decision at +752 is value if anybody thinks he has a chance
    They had bets for the fights going the distance/not going the distance, but they added bets such as "Johnson winning by decision" and Struve inside the distance today.

    I'm probably making a bigger bet on Cruz to win by decision along with a small Johnson hedge (if I am using that term correctly) haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitooch View Post
    5Dimes added props.

    Really liking Johnson by decision at +752, Brenneman by decision at +303, Johnson inside the distance at +170, and Wiman inside the distance at +233.
    I read this and pooped a little when I saw Johnson by decision at +752. Then I realized it was the other Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post

    I read this and pooped a little when I saw Johnson by decision at +752. Then I realized it was the other Johnson.
    Just shut up queer, like anyone here gives a shit what you think. Go back to Sherdog you pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post

    I read this and pooped a little when I saw Johnson by decision at +752. Then I realized it was the other Johnson.
    I hope you were on the toilet

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirchadwick1 View Post
    I'm going against most of you and playing Struve at +170 and Brenneman at +155. Just need one of these guys to win to come out on top.

    Obviously, I'm a Barry fan and I also think AJ has a clear path to beat Brenneman with his wrestling background and superior standup. My bets here are purely on value and inconsistency of their opponents. Struve has much better submissions than Tim Hague and while he may get dropped once or twice... I still think Barry is in trouble on the ground against a guy of his size. Really love a play on Struve SOTN!

    I know Rumble has looked good lately, but Brenneman has only lost to Hendricks in the UFC who we know is legit. If he can avoid the power/TKO, I think he can get a takedown or two and stay busy enough to win on the cards. Cutting is always in question with AJ and it usually catches up w/ him in the 3rd.
    Interesting... much respect if you hit these man!!! GL...! I won't be the least bit suprised if charlie grinds the shit outta rumble, but in the end I see rumble being too big and his new cardio/weight cutting should give him the power to sprawl and brawl. I give rumble a HUGE edge on the feet, so if it stays there I can't see charlie winning. I just won't bet against a grinder like charlie, its a hard style to beat imo.

    Initially I was really liking barry, but V and some other people have made some great insight...! GOnna be interesting to see what happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chairib View Post
    Just shut up queer, like anyone here gives a shit what you think. Go back to Sherdog you pussy.
    You are not only dull yourself, but the cause of dullness in others.

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    Can you guys just make out with each other already

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeese View Post
    Can you guys just make out with each other already
    I dunno. He's the one who started showing up everywhere I posted and calling me fa\*\*ot. I didn't even know he was on this forum, thought he was just in the Joannie Loves Chachi reviews section.

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    I was just messing around. You seem like one of the sharper guys on here and it reflects poorly on both of you when you get into the name calling stuff.
    I know people rub each other the wrong way but this is an internet forum. We are seeing a very small part of each other and even that is masked by the difficulty in expression from text only communication. I'm sure you guys would get along on some level in real life. We are all here because we love this sport and have gambling problems. Lets unite under that passion for sport and get some money from the asshole sportsbooks.
    Last edited by cheeese; 09-29-11 at 05:47 AM.

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    Im getting teary eyed.

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    true

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    Watch out Struve bettors, the man has a plan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Watch out Struve bettors, the man has a plan.
    Aaaaand the winner by flying dutchman....Stefan "Skyskraper" Struuuuve!

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    I put two underdogs in a parlay. Brenneman and Struve. Let's see if this holds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    I put two underdogs in a parlay. Brenneman and Struve. Let's see if this holds.
    One is bound to hit... 2 would be icing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirchadwick1 View Post
    One is bound to hit... 2 would be icing!
    One would be a loss, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    One would be a loss, though.
    And that's why I bet on them each straight up. If one wins, I come out on top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirchadwick1 View Post
    And that's why I bet on them each straight up. If one wins, I come out on top.
    I'm right there with you. Brennamen by decision though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    You are not only dull yourself, but the cause of dullness in others.



    chairib has to vent at someone, he knows he has no business directing towards me. Thats why you never see responses from him, only childish insults.


    Im getting worried tho we just had a -400, -500 and -600 favorites take easy wins at 135 but no one knew to bet them cause chairib didn't do a writeup



    chairib 0-0
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