1. 04-13-11 05:12 PM #1
    kball15
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    BERTO-ORTIZ Over/Under 9.5 rounds?

    Kinda like the Under at +105 but im not sure.

    I dont think Ortiz will handle Bertos quick hands and sharp punches very well. But at the same time he seemed to handle Petersons hardest shots with no problem (although peterson is a very soft puncher.)

    If Berto can put together some combinations instead of his one punch and move style, i dont think Ortiz can last.

    And if Ortiz is to win its going to be by KO for certain.

    Thoughts on this one?
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  2. 04-13-11 06:34 PM #2
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    over the 9.5 ounds
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  3. 04-13-11 08:53 PM #3
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    probably won't bet but would lean also on the over.
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  4. 04-13-11 09:03 PM #4
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    I would go with the over as well.
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  5. 04-13-11 09:56 PM #5
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    with the way ortiz responded to Maidana i would be very hesitant to bet the over on Ortiz.

    i think this is a good bet to avoid
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  6. 04-14-11 07:14 AM #6
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    ortiz is moving up in weight....that`s an issue.....

    but ,imo,this is probably berto`s toughest fight...he`s in with a guy who could conceivably hurt him....

    the odds are very high(you can get almost +400 with ortiz)....i`m gusessing that`s because he gave away a sure win vs peterson....and maidana`s surprisingly tough fight with morales....


    at +400,i might bite with ortiz(i don`t see this as a real easy big fave fight to bet on)...another lefty (luis collazo) gave berto some real trouble....and ortiz can punch a bit...
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  7. 04-14-11 07:17 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky mattioli View Post
    ortiz is moving up in weight....that`s an issue.....

    but ,imo,this is probably berto`s toughest fight...he`s in with a guy who could conceivably hurt him....

    the odds are very high(you can get almost +400 with ortiz)....i`m gusessing that`s because he gave away a sure win vs peterson....and maidana`s surprisingly tough fight with morales....


    at +400,i might bite with ortiz(i don`t see this as a real easy big fave fight to bet on)...another lefty (luis collazo) gave berto some real trouble....and ortiz can punch a bit...
    No ortiz has been having trouble making 140 for a while now 147 should be fine for him as he's a big junior welter.
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  8. 04-14-11 07:47 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApricotSinner32 View Post
    No ortiz has been having trouble making 140 for a while now 147 should be fine for him as he's a big junior welter.

    he`s weighed a bit over 140 in a few fights....but he hasn`t fought as a full fledged welter yet....

    he`s stepping up to fight a quicker, hard punching undefeated welter for the first time...without a tune-up...

    that`s an issue,imo...

    yet,i still think a play on ortiz is well worth a shot at nearly +400...
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  9. 04-15-11 09:20 AM #9
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    I think I'll put Ortiz itd in a couple small parlays at +619. Not sure he'll win, but he should be Bertos toughest test to date.
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  10. 04-15-11 02:43 PM #10
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    go under ortiz is small and berto has power
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  11. 04-16-11 02:37 PM #11
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    Berto wins although I could see him winning a decision. He's HBO's posterboy so Ortiz would never get the nod.
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  12. 04-16-11 02:47 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC2008 View Post
    Berto wins although I could see him winning a decision. He's HBO's posterboy so Ortiz would never get the nod.
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  13. 04-16-11 02:51 PM #13
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    over the rounds
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  14. 04-16-11 05:26 PM #14
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    Berto and under...
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  15. 04-16-11 09:23 PM #15
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    anyone have a link to the fight?
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  16. 04-16-11 09:50 PM #16
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    Berto knocked down twice in the 1st only one counted. Ortiz down once in the 2nd. This fight might get crazy
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  17. 04-16-11 10:12 PM #17
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    underdogs =long term profits
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  18. 04-16-11 10:16 PM #18
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    unreal, LETS GO OVER one punch cud **** the over!
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  19. 04-16-11 11:13 PM #19
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    Epic fight, loved it. Ortiz definitely wanted it more.
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  20. 04-16-11 11:17 PM #20
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    good fight, Victor by decision was something like +1100.
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  21. 04-17-11 12:13 AM #21
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    Crazy fight. I'm glad Ortiz got the decision even after the bullshit point deduction. I thought he might be getting the screw job by the judges.
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  22. 04-17-11 04:27 AM #22
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    i like how ortiz calls himself "king of the welterweights" now. the kid quit like a broad 2 years ago and would get stopped easily by manny and floyd. beating berto is no huge feat. the kid was overhyped from day one and i said it here.

    great fight and glad i took the dog in what i thought was a slightly inflated line. guessing the rematch happens in october with berto being around a -160 favorite.
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  23. 04-17-11 05:39 AM #23
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    Conspiracy fail.

    So much for Vicious Victoria never getting a decision over Berto.

    In middleofbuttfuck, CT of all places.
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  24. 04-17-11 12:13 PM #24
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    I don't usually watch boxing at all, but I happened to stop my remote on HBO last night just after the fight started. After the first two rounds with the dueling knockdowns, I was hooked.
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  25. 04-17-11 03:30 PM #25
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    arum already setting up kermit cintron to fight pacman after he beats shane. he will do anything he can to not let his guy fight floyd.
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  26. 04-17-11 04:08 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    arum already setting up kermit cintron to fight pacman after he beats shane. he will do anything he can to not let his guy fight floyd.


    You kids say the darndest things on this forum.
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