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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    I never understood why the sportsbook feels it's the customers responsibility to compare any line with other sportsbooks prior to betting, just to make sure any particular line is good. Nobody has the time to compare all lines. Customers aren't odds makers, we obviously don't know what the line should be. God forbid a sportsbook takes responsibility for their line errors.
    Nobody has the time to compare lines and yet people do exactly that for a living ffs 24/7

    Not sure if some of you are just trolling now.

    You shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt that you know what you're betting and you don't know what the line should be?

    Ok then... when you happen to hit a 5 team parlay for a good chunk of $ we should support a sportsbook who cancels your bet because you're too stupid to know what you were betting on or to even have just a teensy bit of knowledge before you lay your money down. You never bet a UFC match before in your 5 years at Bookmaker and suddenly you threw in some fighter in your 5 teamer. Well that must've been a mistake so it's time to void, yeah?

    Or even more simple since you don't know what the line should be, I'll give you -900000 on Shari91 beating Serena in her next tennis match. I fully expect you to take that since you don't know what lines should be. See how stupid that sounds?

    The line should've been approx Cat Zingano +530, Rhonda Rousey -910

    Instead as sweep so helpfully pointed out for all the "shot takers" it was Zingano +155, Rousey -175

    GL with that at any book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    Nobody has the time to compare lines and yet people do exactly that for a living ffs 24/7

    Not sure if some of you are just trolling now.

    You shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt that you know what you're betting and you don't know what the line should be?

    Ok then... when you happen to hit a 5 team parlay for a good chunk of $ we should support a sportsbook who cancels your bet because you're too stupid to know what you were betting on or to even have just a teensy bit of knowledge before you lay your money down. You never bet a UFC match before in your 5 years at Bookmaker and suddenly you threw in some fighter in your 5 teamer. Well that must've been a mistake so it's time to void, yeah?

    Or even more simple since you don't know what the line should be, I'll give you -900000 on Shari91 beating Serena in her next tennis match. I fully expect you to take that since you don't know what lines should be. See how stupid that sounds?

    The line should've been approx Cat Zingano +530, Rhonda Rousey -910

    Instead as sweep so helpfully pointed out for all the "shot takers" it was Zingano +155, Rousey -175

    GL with that at any book.
    in my defense I reported the issue immediately

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    He did report it quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    in my defense I reported the issue immediately
    Dude I'm not pissed at you nor anyone who read this thread and then took a shot.

    My initial response "lol" was because of the fact you'd just been let back here not long ago, your best mate was two days ago after massive thought, he had the nerve to ask for someone to be unbanned as if any staff is going to listen to him and then y'all come out with a "here ya go" let's go burn SBR thread by stealing from them. Just to prove how much we want to legitimately be a part of this community. That to me was hilarious in how ironic and utterly stupid of me it was... hence the lol.

    Like as if I need even more of a reminder from my colleagues as to why I never should've unbanned either of you. It's all good though... I'm the queen of giving the benefit of the doubt to the ones who prove to be the biggest SBR and Shari haters of all time. So at least I'm tying up the March award early.

    I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

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    It is a whole different issues where books are concerned and is a touchy subject. I personally dont think I have ever bet a bad line much less been in the mess with a book for betting a bad line but its is a pretty ridiculous double standard.

    SBR is obviously a different story as the currency is given to you and therefore you shouldnt take advantage of it.

    But in the case of money making books they have an easy out when they make a mistake and post a bad line. The player however who makes a similar mistake and bets the wrong side on his phone, hits the wrong square, or whatever generally has no recourse. Even when said mistake is pointed out before game time. There are exceptions to this rule but generally you will be left out in the cold or eating vig to offset your mistake.

    Ideally we would live in a world where shot takers didnt exist and books were willing to work with honest mistakes but unforntunately a degenerate culture of hitting any possible angle possible make it virtually impossible.

    And thats one to grow on kids....GI JOEEEEEEE
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    sweep that audio call you made was hilarious

    anyone (as long as you dont bash betpoints or Shari) who whats Ronda Rousey in this match I will give you a low vig line that will be much much much better spread than the feed SBr gets but
    for sure not -175!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    sweep that audio call you made was hilarious

    anyone (as long as you dont bash betpoints or Shari) who whats Ronda Rousey in this match I will give you a low vig line that will be much much much better spread than the feed SBr gets but
    for sure not -175!
    That wasnt me on the phone try, some yankees fan pretending to be me

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    That wasnt me on the phone try, some yankees fan pretending to be me
    oh damn I fell for it. that was not nice to use you as the person and not be transparent about it. but anyway it was funny

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    Tis the nature of unregulated industry.

    It's the same reason drug dealers do not give refunds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    oh damn I fell for it. that was not nice to use you as the person and not be transparent about it. but anyway it was funny
    I brought it up in the thread. I didnt mind tho cause yanks is my buddy. All in good fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    Nobody has the time to compare lines and yet people do exactly that for a living ffs 24/7

    Not sure if some of you are just trolling now.

    You shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt that you know what you're betting and you don't know what the line should be?

    Ok then... when you happen to hit a 5 team parlay for a good chunk of $ we should support a sportsbook who cancels your bet because you're too stupid to know what you were betting on or to even have just a teensy bit of knowledge before you lay your money down. You never bet a UFC match before in your 5 years at Bookmaker and suddenly you threw in some fighter in your 5 teamer. Well that must've been a mistake so it's time to void, yeah?

    Or even more simple since you don't know what the line should be, I'll give you -900000 on Shari91 beating Serena in her next tennis match. I fully expect you to take that since you don't know what lines should be. See how stupid that sounds?

    The line should've been approx Cat Zingano +530, Rhonda Rousey -910

    Instead as sweep so helpfully pointed out for all the "shot takers" it was Zingano +155, Rousey -175

    GL with that at any book.
    I can assure you nobody is making a living off betpoints. Not everyone is a professional gambler, betting real $ & comparing lines, Some are just recreational gamblers not even that knowledgeable in sports, let alone what a line should be.

    I stand by my previous comments. It's not the customers responsibility to know or research what a fair line should be. Sportsbooks need to take responsibility for their line errors, or hire competent employees to avoid errors in the first place. To pass the blame to unknowing customers is comical.

    We can agree to disagree on this subject....But if you ever play Serena let me know, I'll bet my 70k on Shari to win at -9000000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    I can assure you nobody is making a living off betpoints. Not everyone is a professional gambler, betting real $ & comparing lines, Some are just recreational gamblers not even that knowledgeable in sports, let alone what a line should be.

    I stand by my previous comments. It's not the customers responsibility to know or research what a fair line should be. Sportsbooks need to take responsibility for their line errors, or hire competent employees to avoid errors in the first place. To pass the blame to unknowing customers is comical.

    We can agree to disagree on this subject....But if you ever play Serena let me know, I'll bet my 70k on Shari to win at -9000000.
    Bobby... of course no one is making a living off of Betpoints. That's not what I was referring to. But they sure as hell are by watching lines 24/7 with actual $. And I agree that some are rec gamblers. However in a situation like this for example when a thread is made and we can see who viewed the thread and at what time and then at what time they subsequently went to place their bets in a friggen points book... it doesn't take Matlock to figure it out.

    And yeah we'll have to disagree on whether or not it's the customer's responsibility to know what a fair line should be. If you don't know, how in the hell do you bet? You like a team and you'll take any price for them to win? Of course not because you know what the fair price is. Errors will always happen. I bet at 4 of the largest sportsbooks in the world thanks to my location and errors happen every day. If a gambler can't handle errors then they're better off putting a few $ on lotto.

    When I make a tennis bet, I do all of my work and I figure out the price I'm willing to pay for a player in a match and then I go hunting for that price or what I can find close to it. If I find it I bet; if not I pass. Say I think he's worth +120 or higher. Are you saying I should just grab him at -600 if I could find it? Come on now.

    Anyway, the moral of the story here is don't take a shot. Points or freeplay.. .be thankful it wasn't real $. We do our best to give you guys things of value and entertainment so you feel like it's worth being here... the fact that anyone would want to scam on that so blatantly is actually disheartening. You can still be a gambler and not be a desperate thug.

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    I wasn't talking about me. Like you, I have multiple outs & line shop as well. That's what smart gamblers do. I'm talking about the recreational gambler, not everyone takes gambling as serious as we do. So it stands to reason, not all rec gamblers know a line is off.

    Not talking about SBR book, as Sweep made it perfectly clear with this thread. My comments were more directed towards real $ books.

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