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    Looking for 3K betpoints loan for hedging my position on NCAA Bowl contest

    I own a 20% stake in team FabFive.

    If our captain pick a winner for the final game we are getting at least 40K points, probably more.
    If our captain fails we risk getting nothing.

    I want to hedge my position but i need 3K points. I´ll need it by Friday.

    I really would like to hear some proposals.
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    Are you selling your position or just looking for a loan?

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    lets have an auction for your 20% share..would be fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    Are you selling your position or just looking for a loan?
    Looking for a loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    lets have an auction for your 20% share..would be fun
    I´m still in the race for the money prize. I´m not selling that for betpoints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacefrog View Post
    Looking for a loan.
    Other guys on here more suited for that - if no one is able to get you there and you want to sell a portion send me a PM

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    C´mon guys...
    I know its a lot of points and its my first big loan, but the small loans i´ve taken in the past have been paid really fast. No1here and Yisman can corroborate.

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    Lots of pressure on that captain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner5k View Post
    Lots of pressure on that captain!
    He already proved he can handle it.

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    I'm probably throwing between $400-700 on the other side of mine. I have a shot at first place and a shot at last

    I don't think you can really decide what to hedge until you find out your best & worst case scenario. I'm usually against hedging, but the overlay here is so big it's worth it.

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    If pick wins he gets at least 8k points if it loses he might get 0

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    Are you looking to use 3k points to hedge Space? I might be willing to book that bet under the right circumstances

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    Are you looking to use 3k points to hedge Space? I might be willing to book that bet under the right circumstances
    That´s right newguy. The 3k are for hedging the position on the Bowl contest.

    Can you detail what "the right circumstances" means?

    You understand that any bet you book with me for this purpose is on credit, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner5k View Post
    If pick wins he gets at least 8k points if it loses he might get 0
    That´s correct.

    If pick wins i get 8k points minimum and i have a shot a the money prizes.

    If the pick loses i can still get the 8k points, but more probably i will get nothing.


    For the hedging purpose i will act as the only outcomes are 8k/nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacefrog View Post
    That´s right newguy. The 3k are for hedging the position on the Bowl contest.

    Can you detail what "the right circumstances" means?

    You understand that any bet you book with me for this purpose is on credit, right?

    you better be sure you can bet 3k points in the sbr book, i know i cant bet more than a dime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacefrog View Post
    That´s right newguy. The 3k are for hedging the position on the Bowl contest.

    Can you detail what "the right circumstances" means?

    You understand that any bet you book with me for this purpose is on credit, right?

    If you book my bet and the FabCaptain picks a winner and the guys on top of the leaderboard fail then two things will happen.
    First of all i will be very happy with a money prize (up to 1000$).
    Following that, i will not have the points to pay you the bet. I will eventually need a loan to pay you

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep View Post
    you better be sure you can bet 3k points in the sbr book, i know i cant bet more than a dime
    That question never ocurred to me.

    Can someone answer that question? What will be the limits for the final game at the sportbook?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacefrog View Post
    If you book my bet and the FabCaptain picks a winner and the guys on top of the leaderboard fail then two things will happen.
    First of all i will be very happy with a money prize (up to 1000$).
    Following that, i will not have the points to pay you the bet. I will eventually need a loan to pay you
    Ill do that - 3,000 loan and I will use those to book the bet but it has to be the opposite side that your captain uses in final game (I am assuming at some point that will become public). You will get the 5 dimes line when you tell me what side you want - so whatever line is prevailing at that point is line we will use. If contest is using different line you can buy down if you need to.

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    3150 if paid by Jan 18
    3450 if paid by Jan 25
    1% every week after that calculated on outstanding balance. Interest calculated on Monday. Minimum repayment of 40 points/week

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    Do you know who your captain picked? If he picked Oregon & you want to book Ohio St at the book of Waves, then I may be interested. If he picked Ohio St then I'm not interested in booking your Oregon bet, but may help you with a loan carrying a 20% interest rate. With 50pt/week late fees added, if not paid back in 30 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    Ill do that - 3,000 loan and I will use those to book the bet but it has to be the opposite side that your captain uses in final game (I am assuming at some point that will become public). You will get the 5 dimes line when you tell me what side you want - so whatever line is prevailing at that point is line we will use. If contest is using different line you can buy down if you need to.

    Terms:

    3150 if paid by Jan 18
    3450 if paid by Jan 25
    1% every week after that calculated on outstanding balance. Interest calculated on Monday. Minimum repayment of 40 points/week

    The "loan" seems ok to me.

    But you have to help me with the "bet".
    I am more used to ML betting than to handicap betting. When you say i can "buy down" you mean you will give me an alternative line that matches the one of the contest, is that correct?

    How much time will you take to settle the bet in case i win it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbywaves View Post
    Do you know who your captain picked? If he picked Oregon & you want to book Ohio St at the book of Waves, then I may be interested. If he picked Ohio St then I'm not interested in booking your Oregon bet, but may help you with a loan carrying a 20% interest rate. With 50pt/week late fees added, if not paid back in 30 days.
    Newguy is offering me both sides to pick wich is better because i dont know yet wich one i will need.
    That raises a question to me: Why are you offering only one side? Are you trying to handicap a contest position like myself?

    And your loan conditions seem worse than newguy´s ones to, so i think i´ll stay with him.

    Thank you anyway, bobby

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacefrog View Post
    Newguy is offering me both sides to pick wich is better because i dont know yet wich one i will need.
    That raises a question to me: Why are you offering only one side? Are you trying to handicap a contest position like myself?

    And your loan conditions seem worse than newguy´s ones to, so i think i´ll stay with him.

    Thank you anyway, bobby
    No problem...If you were hedging with Ohio St, basically I would eat bet since I think Oregon will cover. If you were betting Oregon I would loan you the pts, to bet it yourself in sbr book.
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    Sbr book has osu +8(-115) would be a great chance at a middle...but since this is my team that could win first I'm still deciding.

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    just got here

    I would also offer loan or taking bet

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    It's difficult to judge on the final amount you would win not knowing what other captains have picked

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    It's difficult to judge on the final amount you would win not knowing what other captains have picked
    That´s why i will hedge as if i would win 8k in case of a sucessfull pick of my captain

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    just got here
    I would also offer loan or taking bet
    Please state your terms Yisman. If newguy don´t mind i may even do a bet with one and a loan to cover the bet with other.

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    offer good rest of today only let me know

    spacefrog...I will lend you 3000 for 3300 if paid back in 2 weeks. (3300 must be paid if you win your bowl points its not a choice you agree to pay back fast if you win, I saw 2 weeks in case there is some delay from SBR on grading and awarding the contest points... )

    if not payback is 3600 points due at 72 points a week minimum after first week.
    let me know.

    and I will also allow you to wager the other side of the game your manager picks at -105 prices if you post up the points in a betting tread I make. (bet at current 5Dimes reduced juice lines...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacefrog View Post
    The "loan" seems ok to me.

    But you have to help me with the "bet".
    I am more used to ML betting than to handicap betting. When you say i can "buy down" you mean you will give me an alternative line that matches the one of the contest, is that correct?

    How much time will you take to settle the bet in case i win it?
    I think the contest line is 6.5 but I am not 100% sure. I see line today is 8. If your captain bet OSU +6.5, I would assume you would want Oregon -6.5 as otherwise you could lose both bets. So to "buy" Oregon down to 8, you would pay 10 cents juice each half point. So -7.5 would be -120, -7 would be -130, -6.5 -140, etc. So you would have to take Oregon -6.5-140.

    I would get you the payout no later than the next day if you won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    offer good rest of today only let me know

    spacefrog...I will lend you 3000 for 3300 if paid back in 2 weeks. (3300 must be paid if you win your bowl points its not a choice you agree to pay back fast if you win, I saw 2 weeks in case there is some delay from SBR on grading and awarding the contest points... )

    if not payback is 3600 points due at 72 points a week minimum after first week.
    let me know.

    and I will also allow you to wager the other side of the game your manager picks at -105 prices if you post up the points in a betting tread I make. (bet at current 5Dimes reduced juice lines...)
    try, do you already have that betting tread set up?

    Are you saying that even if the contest line has a 6.5 spread and the 5Dimes lines has an 8 points spread you will let me bet a 6.5 spread line at -105?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacefrog View Post
    try, do you already have that betting tread set up?

    Are you saying that even if the contest line has a 6.5 spread and the 5Dimes lines has an 8 points spread you will let me bet a 6.5 spread line at -105?

    if you take my loan terms I said in this thread...then you
    you can wager max RISK 3000 with me at these lines.

    Ohio State +6.5 -105
    Oregon -6.5 -105

    just say yes and Ill give you the points here in this thread... .

    then you agree to put the 3000 points back into a betting thread I made to me... (I realize thats an extra step but just do it that way)

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post23351235

    then later as soon as you know post in the bet thread which specific team you are actually betting with me (obviously you dont know for sure which team today if your captain has not told you!)

    if you win your bet with me I will pay you in the bet thread so you will have a bunch of points...

    you will use this thread to pay back the loan....

    sound good and easy. good luck..
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    Newguy,

    i prefer your loan conditions because i believe i will pay really fast (only 3150 with you against 3300 with try) but his bet offer is far better than yours. He garantees me an -105 line whatever side i choose, and you offer could lead me to an -140 line. Unless you can rethink your offer i´ll take try's one.
    Please say something here fast because try is putting some pressure on it.

    Whatever is the outcome of this deal i want to thank you for your confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    if you take my loan terms I said in this thread...then you
    you can wager max RISK 3000 with me at these lines.

    Ohio State +6.5 -105
    Oregon -6.5 -105

    just say yes and Ill give you the points here in this thread... .

    then you agree to put the 3000 points back into a betting thread I made to me... (I realize thats an extra step but just do it that way)

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...l#post23351235

    then later as soon as you know post in the bet thread which specific team you are actually betting with me (obviously you dont know for sure which team today if your captain has not told you!)

    if you win your bet with me I will pay you in the bet thread so you will have a bunch of points...

    you will use this thread to pay back the loan....

    sound good and easy. good luck..

    try, I say YES.
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    OK GL on the contest!!! obviously!

    3000 sent.

    you can move those into the thread made tonight. and when you know type in clearly the team you are betting with me. line will not change.
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