[shevabets]

So I'm at over 1500 points and would like to buy '$100 cash' at a sportsbook. Haven't had much luck getting help via 'live help' last few days, so I'll ask here:

Is there a FAQ regarding all the rules? (there must be since I can't be the only guy who has all these questions)

Are the rules book-specific, or is it pretty much the same for Pinnacle/5Dimes/Sportbet etc?

How does 5x rollover work? If I purchase $100, do I have to give $500 in action before I am allowed to withdraw?

Can I bet any prices, or only -110 or higher? All types of wagers or just spreads/totals?

Most importantly, do I *have* to be registered for a pinnacle account through SBR to be able to use SBR cash in that book? And is $100 not a Free Play, but actual 'cash'?

Thanks a lot for any/all answers.

[Vegas39]

For one you have to be a pro to do so

[shevabets]

For one you have to be a pro to do so

Quick Q: how often do you get 3-question trivia? Is the frequency the same for pros/non-pros? (I haven't gotten a trivia in a couple of weeks now...)

edit: Was I getting a bunch of 'teaser' trivias? And won't get them anymore unless/until I go pro?

[shevabets]

Also... can an admin comment on this:
After becoming SBR Pro, a Non-Pro whose balance exceeds 3,000 betpoints will be reset to exactly 3,000

Suppose I've made 11000 points in casino; what are my options as to spending them EXCEPT going pro and 'having my balance reset to 3000 points'?

[sickler]

Also... can an admin comment on this:
After becoming SBR Pro, a Non-Pro whose balance exceeds 3,000 betpoints will be reset to exactly 3,000

Suppose I've made 11000 points in casino; what are my options as to spending them EXCEPT going pro and 'having my balance reset to 3000 points'?

You have no other options. Maybe buy a shirt or hat, check the store to see if they're still available to non pros. You can only carry 3,000 points with you when you become pro. Thought it used to be 5,000, guess they lowered it. As to the trivia, I read an Admin post which stated the trivia for non pros was temporary. It appears to have been discontinued. There is regular trivia for pros.

[SBR Contests]

Also... can an admin comment on this:
After becoming SBR Pro, a Non-Pro whose balance exceeds 3,000 betpoints will be reset to exactly 3,000

Suppose I've made 11000 points in casino; what are my options as to spending them EXCEPT going pro and 'having my balance reset to 3000 points'?

If you aren't a pro then there shouldn't be a renewal option for points. The most points you can have after becoming a pro would be 3k.

[SBRAdmin3]

You have no other options. Maybe buy a shirt or hat, check the store to see if they're still available to non pros.

For non-pro, you can only purchase one item for lifetime either poker baseball cap or SBR-Black Tshirt

[shevabets]

If you aren't a pro then there shouldn't be a renewal option for points. The most points you can have after becoming a pro would be 3k.

Are you saying that if, prior to going PRO, I accumulated 71k points, roughly an equivalent of $5000 in free bookmaker cash, you would still limit me to 3k under this rule?

Shouldn't this be written in bold font on every REGISTER FOR SBR FORUM form?

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Edit: Let me ask simply this: can a non-pro use points in any meaningful way, beside transfering 2 pts per day and getting fined 4 pts for saying 'this rule is fukkin gay', or something to that effect? I'm ready to make the '$200 commitment', I just want to understand what would happen IF I was only ready to make it after I had a lot, lot more points...

[boeing power]

Are you saying that if, prior to going PRO, I accumulated 71k points, roughly an equivalent of $5000 in free bookmaker cash, you would still limit me to 3k under this rule?

Shouldn't this be written in bold font on every REGISTER FOR SBR FORUM form?

How many points do you have?

[horja1]

Edit: Let me ask simply this: can a non-pro use points in any meaningful way, beside transfering 2 pts per day and getting fined 4 pts for saying 'this rule is fukkin gay', or something to that effect? I'm ready to make the '$200 commitment', I just want to understand what would happen IF I was only ready to make it after I had a lot, lot more points...

you have to be a PRO to use your points in a meaningfull way ... regardless how many points you have now, you will only have max 3000 after you go PRO

[shevabets]

How many points do you have?

71,000 or 3,500 - what's the difference?

The situation is akin to a government refusing to accept its own currency - citing some technicality. Here in SBR Forum, the 3,000 limit could as well be 1,000 or 100 points. Noone would ever know - because it is so well hidden. READ THE FINE PRINT they say.

My question is - why print the currency if you have no intention to accept it, or honor its value?

edit: I hope you keep a log of all support chat requests. I tried to contact you guys multiple times on Live chat to ask these same questions; never an answer. If this was the real world, you would have a case on your hands. Here I'm at your mercy - just remember you are trying to protect gamblers not act Tony-like against those who think they have a point in an argument you'd really like to avoid.

[shevabets]

you have to be a PRO to use your points in a meaningfull way ... regardless how many points you have now, you will only have max 3000 after you go PRO

And you think there's nothing wrong with this 'rule'?

[SBRAdmin3]

Are you saying that if, prior to going PRO, I accumulated 71k points, roughly an equivalent of $5000 in free bookmaker cash, you would still limit me to 3k under this rule?

Shouldn't this be written in bold font on every REGISTER FOR SBR FORUM form?

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Edit: Let me ask simply this: can a non-pro use points in any meaningful way, beside transfering 2 pts per day and getting fined 4 pts for saying 'this rule is fukkin gay', or something to that effect? I'm ready to make the '$200 commitment', I just want to understand what would happen IF I was only ready to make it after I had a lot, lot more points...

For new pro-members you can only carry 3000 points when you go pro, after that you can use points in renewing worth 3,000. If your a non-pro points are useless, you can purchase 1 item as a life-time in the Store!

[SBRAdmin3]

71,000 or 3,500 - what's the difference?

The situation is akin to a government refusing to accept its own currency - citing some technicality. Here in SBR Forum, the 3,000 limit could as well be 1,000 or 100 points. Noone would ever know - because it is so well hidden. READ THE FINE PRINT they say.

My question is - why print the currency if you have no intention to accept it, or honor its value?

edit: I hope you keep a log of all support chat requests. I tried to contact you guys multiple times on Live chat to ask these same questions; never an answer. If this was the real world, you would have a case on your hands. Here I'm at your mercy - just remember you are trying to protect gamblers not act Tony-like against those who think they have a point in an argument you'd really like to avoid.

If you want to become a PRO or not that's your choice! Stop complaining

[shevabets]

If you want to become a PRO or not that's your choice! Stop complaining

Do you admit it would create negative publicity if someone did, in fact, accumulate a hundred thousand points and 'had their balance reset to three thousand' because he was unaware of 'the rule' that SBR can unilaterally insert or change, and makes a concerted effort to conceal from unsuspecting non-pros? I mean a poster who is an active participant and a potential customer, paying your salary? Would you just tell him to 'read the fine print' and 'stop complaining' rather than try to rectify the situation?

Isn't this what SBR is about - integrity and protecting gambler's options?

[tatddy]

Isn't this what SBR is about - integrity and protecting gambler's options?

No it's not. Now like they said either go pro or don't. They don't care either way and you will not get any further pts.

You have a little 3K right? So what's the issue.

[shevabets]

The issue is, tatddy, the misrepresentation of betpoints as something valuable, a 'currency'.

You come to a foreign country, exchange money into local currency, and going back home you are told you can't change that money back into USD oh... let's say... for another 6 months. Or that the reverse exchange rate is half of what you expected to get*




The issue is disrespect and disregard for their clientele.

This is exactly what SBR does imposing the 3,000 point limit without expressly telling all non-pros what the 'rules' are: simply stating that it's their way or highway. Can someone explain to me why forum participation (and betpoints earned for it) is invalidated by not going PRO? If SBR is so hush-hush about these certain rules, why aren't their options for players with thousands of points but no Pro status to cash those points in after going PRO?










*Notice: when you first came to the bank that made the exchange, you were told nothing of any restrictions and assumed, with the common sense that characterizes any biped with a brain, that you would get a very similar rate going back out of the country.

[tatddy]

The rules are there.....the question has been asked and answered 100 times...just search the forum.

No offense pal but if you expect Sbr to be up front and a backer of their members than you are naive.

You are not the client/customer here. The sooner you conceptualize that the better.

[Vegas39]

Comparing SBR to a bank

[shevabets]

Comparing SBR to a bank

No, they're a lot more like the U.S. Government. Not paying their debts, overprotective of fags and 'insert a racial slur here'

[horja1]

And you think there's nothing wrong with this 'rule'?

of course I have no problem with this rule ... go Pro (at the right time, long before having 71k points) if you want to use the points and win some nice contest prizes ... I have done that more than 3 years ago and it worked great for me so far ...

I see you play SBR poker with some success ... another great reason to go PRO:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...ts.html?slf=36

I don't think you can find another 75 people poker tourney paying 5000 USD to TOP3

The rules are there.....the question has been asked and answered 100 times...just search the forum.

common knowledge

[shevabets]

of course I have no problem with this rule ... go Pro (at the right time,

Can I borrow your crystal ball to help me do things at the right time and generally become a more sensible person?

[leetreaper]

Sheva ty lox polnyi

[sweep]

broke dikk fukk

[downsouth]

Can I borrow your crystal ball to help me do things at the right time and generally become a more sensible person?

Honestly makes sense to go pro before accumulating much of anything. If you enjoy playing poker its almost impossible to not accumulate enough points to cash out at minimal the $200 that is required from US residents to go pro. If you are not a resident of the US then its an even easier decision to go pro as you can do it simply with a $200 deposit to a sportsbook site, gamble it and it basically costs you nothing.

SBR business model is not really set up to let whoever log in, collect points and then only turn pro and contribute anything to the site when they have enough points to overlay what it would costs them. While it sounds like a great freeroll it doesnt make a whole lot of business sense.

[shevabets]

Would it make business sense to send everyone with 500 (1000? 1500?) points in their SBR point balance a PM like this:
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GO PRO today! (insert their usual marketing bullshit here)
KEEP IN MIND THAT THE MAXIMUM POINTS YOU CAN START WITH AS A PRO IS 3,000 - SO JOIN NOW TO AVOID DISAPPOINTMENT
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Instead they just nag me to join but citing all the wrong reasons, like staying in the BTP contest or having the opportunity to play in a poker freeroll. Is this negligence on their part or is it a concerted effort to 'hide what's important'?

[sweep]

give it up already cuz, your fighting a losing battle

[Triple_D_Bet]

Would it make business sense to send everyone with 500 (1000? 1500?) points in their SBR point balance a PM like this:...
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No.
/thread

[shevabets]

give it up already cuz, your fighting a losing battle

Said yet another SBR PRO who was smart enough to read the FAQ. Or do you also have a crystal ball?