[tatddy]

Stash look you're a stand up guy and have been great for SBR over the years. At first what you did, taking your time to help another poster get out of debt, was admirable and to be commended. That time has passed.

At this point you are just as culpable as Carseller for not only continuing to enable his behavior, but also vouching for him (if you indeed did so) when yisman accepted this loan. Your attempted "punishment" for Carseller is fine and dandy but at this point if you really want to do the right thing you should just pony up the points to yisman and take over this loan. Borrow from dngf if you have to.

Yisman is one of the most valuable posters at SBR and he has wasted quite enough of his life even opening posts related to carseller. I think it's time that his handcuffs be taken off here. Yes, he screwed up by taking this loan to begin with but he's an altruistic guy by nature and it was quasi-understandable. Stash you have been enabling...errr "helping" carseller for years now.

Stash, like I said you are a stand up guy and nobody is saying otherwise. If you really want to help someone out become a big brother or go coach a little league team. Don't waste your time helping a no good, 2 bit lying/scamming middle aged piece of gutter trash. You already got him out of debt once...you've learned by now.

Do the right thing here Stash. Take this loan over and either eat the pts or spend your time continuing to "help" carseller.

Secretstash I got no love lost for you but had to chime in. It's not my business, I get that, but this shyte has clogged up the forum for long enough.

If you don't step up here my previous offer to SBR/yisman stands. Ban Carseller from the points program for life and I'll send yisman every freeplay parlay I hit until the end of time.

[Carseller4]

It's really the thought that counts, and it seems many SBR posters think about me on a daily basis.

Combination of scary and gay mixed together.

You dumbasses are implying that secretstash and yisman are ignorant fools who can't make their own decisions regarding betpoints. If I were them I would be highly upset.

stash, and yisman...I know for a fact you two get hounded by unwanted PM's regarding myself, and them PM's make you uncomfortable. My advice would to just ignore the bullies, it's pretty pathetic.

Remember guys....this is the betpoints forum...NOT the CS4 Forum.

[downsouth]

Remember guys....this is the betpoints forum...NOT the CS4 Forum.

You are correct, and honestly at this point, I actually think the place would be better off without you. I cannot speak for Stash but what is Yisman supposed to say at this point? I have seen him ask for a pick up in pace for points but when you just blatantly refuse what is he supposed to do. Hounding you does nothing, asking you does nothing, making pacts/agreements with you means absolutely nothing so please explain what he should do.

After blowing 400-500 points of his in poker the other night you had at least 300 last night and instead of kicking him a healthy payment of a few hundred at least, you instead threw him a few crumbs(14) and dumped the rest(286). And now if stash refuses to to stake you at your terms with plenty to gamble my guess would be you stop the stake and also stop making payments to Yisman.

Honestly, I truly believe the points forum would be a better place without you. You bring nothing but an empty cup/sense of entitlement attitude that speaks volume to your true lack of any sort of integrity or character. In other words, your a used car salesmen.

And as far as Secretstash, I think he believes he is actually helping you while its fairly obvious to anyone paying attention that hes just allowing you to continue to pull your shitbaggery

[Carseller4]

MAJOR POINT HERE:

If my points were not messed with by SBR in the first place, we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now, because my debt to yisman would have been paid off by now.

I'm a SBR Pro damnit.

[Wrigley]

MAJOR POINT HERE:

If my points were not messed with by SBR in the first place, we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now, because my debt to yisman would have been paid off by now.

I'm a SBR Pro damnit.

You were up over 300 points in poker yesterday and you sent a measly 14 to yisman, is that debt reduction at its finest you always talk about

[Carseller4]

You were up over 300 points in poker yesterday and you sent a measly 14 to yisman, is that debt reduction at its finest you always talk about

I'm facing a deadline.

Must take extremes measures.

36 days remaining as a Pro.

[Carseller4]

The stress is getting to me.

36 days to have an epic run.

It's going to happen.

[tto827]

MAJOR POINT HERE:

If my points were not messed with by SBR in the first place, we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now, because my debt to yisman would have been paid off by now.

I'm a SBR Pro damnit.

Bullshit.

You owe roughly 10k and had your points messed with what 5 months ago.... Show me 2 consecutive months where you averaged 2k+ in payback, cause that's what it would take to be done by now.

Claim all you want, but everyone knows you could've been handed 15k points and still likely wouldn't have paid off your debt because that's just the way pieces of shit like you roll.

[SamDiamond]

MAJOR POINT HERE:

If my points were not messed with by SBR in the first place, we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now, because my debt to yisman would have been paid off by now.

I'm a SBR Pro damnit.

This is the why Carseller is a complete piece of garbage.

Instead of owning up to his mistakes, instead of being a man and accepting his responsibility, he blames SBR.

CS is trash, he knows it. He'll never change.

[Wrigley]

This is the why Carseller is a complete piece of garbage.

Instead of owning up to his mistakes, instead of being a man and accepting his responsibility, he blames SBR.

CS is trash, he knows it. He'll never change.

He will be a SBR side note in 36 days he will not pay $200 to go pro and lets hope no one is dumb enough to give him a 3,000 betpoints loan even stash wont go that low

[Easy-Rider 66]

The stress is getting to me.

36 days to have an epic run.

It's going to happen.

That's funny.

[oiler]

again he shows how classless he is .always has an excuse on how he screws up and never takes the blame for his constant disregard of doing the right thing.guess cs4 is only worried about himself and no one else no matter what excuses he comes up with.cant wait for the day where he cant get his points together and no longer a pro.cause the way u handle your business.there is nothing pro about what u do.they need to change the way being a pro is about...need to act like one ,not just be one

[no1here]

it all ends in 36 days, no way cs re-ups

[Wrigley]

He already broke his deal with Stash he did not send yisman any points at midnight he took all 12 to poker and lost them.

[Wrigley]

Stash also any points you have toward CS4 turning pro ship to Yisman since CS4 did not honor the agreement

[tatddy]

PS..Stasher I'd have PM'd you but it said you can not receive. Only reason I posted.

[Carseller4]

PS..Stasher I'd have PM'd you but it said you can not receive. Only reason I posted.

This is exactly what I am talking about.

Bullying through PM's is not cool.

[broadway6]

i can't believe this happened.. shocked!!!

[BeerDog99]

SBR should invent a new HTML tag for Carseller:

/whine on: Poor me, SBR is picking on me /whine off

/beg on: Please send me points or I will kick up a fuss and put the whine on /Beg off

LOL, who am I kidding, there would never be a /whine off nor a /beg off tag used with Carseller....

EDIT: LOL, the forum software automatically hides the whine-beg tags.

[secretstash]

PS..Stasher I'd have PM'd you but it said you can not receive. Only reason I posted.

forum has been crashed for a few days.. I dont think I am pm banned?

I am not sure what vouching for carseller means in the original post, but I doubt yisman felt I told him if carseller doesnt pay, I will.


...that would be completely stupid. Otherwise I would have taken the loan and all the interest it "could" have created (gl with this obviously at this point).. beyond that it would make no sense for me to do that. Who implied this to you?



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Carseller, I gave a chance to pay off some debt and get his poker fix in, all the while trying to help yisman because we are friends. Carseller continues to screw me over and people do complain about it constantly in pms and in the forum...but that makes no difference..I offered a deal and he ignored it ...could have been the forum downtime, I dont know.. deal is pretty much dead unless the 12 were to be sent to yisman for a week straight.. call on me at the end of the week I suppose. lol


I dont know why I kept giving him chances.. I feel bad for people and I did have the guy paying off a ton of people in the past and he did do 6 pts a day and paid some towards debt for over a year straight.. Normal for most borrowers, but it was absolutely an accomplishment that it happened in this case.

The non-pro/pro thing will definitely throw a kink in the mix.. but I am actually pretty sure carseller will pony up the $200 cash to become a pro.. he isnt necessarily addicted to the pts, its this forum and the attention.. notice how he came around quite often even while banned from pts?

Carseller send yisman the 12 pts tonight to start and I will listen to what you have to say in a few days potentially.. if you choose not to, no sweat off anyone's back but yismans I suppose.. but that I do feel bad for.



-stash

[Carseller4]

I got about 34 Pro days left.

I have a goal to obtain 3000 points needed to renew.

A week without poker at this point in time would be a major step back towards my goal.

I'm in a quandary.

[downsouth]

I got about 34 Pro days left.

I have a goal to obtain 3000 points needed to renew.

A week without poker at this point in time would be a major step back towards my goal.

I'm in a quandary.

Could always just go a week without blackjack.

[Carseller4]

Could always just go a week without blackjack.

Might have to in order to play poker.

This quandary thing really sucks.

[Jayvegas420]

Just stop saying "quandary"

[playersonly69]

4 minutes to see what carseller decides to do!

[playersonly69]

Well of course he immediately sent ALL 12 points to the casino. Somehow he manages to cash out 21 points, bbuttttttttttttttt ONLY SENT YISMAN 6 POINTS!!!!!!!!


Of course 90% of the time, he would not have made anything. This is a deal breaker secretstash

[broadway6]

The quandary is your poker skills.

[SamDiamond]

The quandry is finding a rope.