[soul786]

Ticket#:1917066 Feb 05 08:00 PM Feb 05 09:00 PM Feb 05 08:00 PM

Feb 05 01:01 PM

NBA NBA NHL

PARLAY (3 TEAMS) (FP) [508] MEMPHIS -410 [510] DENVER -300 [68] ST. LOUIS -185

0.00 / 93.30

60 point freeplay

[yisman]

better off using it on longer shot parlays

[BigDeem5]

May as well take a -500 fav

[RubberKettle]

better off using it on longer shot parlays

Exactly, SBR Freeplays are a waste with odds under +200

[soul786]

I need to build bank either way, wins a win if it happens. Need some electronix for the car so I'm gunning for some amazon GCs

[InTheDrink]

fuk these gueys

all you're trying to do is get 1:1 return

your chances dont improve by playing longer shot plays....that theory is whore shit

i like the play gueye

[soul786]

fuk these gueys

all you're trying to do is get 1:1 return

your chances dont improve by playing longer shot plays....that theory is whore shit

i like the play gueye

thanks

either way, STL IS FUKKIN ME RIGHT NOW -_-

[RudyRuetigger]

Worst

Use

Ever


Ok not ever, but it's pretty bad

[yisman]

fuk these gueys

all you're trying to do is get 1:1 return

your chances dont improve by playing longer shot plays....that theory is whore shit

i like the play gueye

very -EV post there drinker

[konck]

It's not a bad play because your better than even money
I think on FP's you cant take even money or less

[yisman]

lol

[the_situation]

[soul786]

well that went bad quick 6 - 1

[InTheDrink]

very -EV post there drinker

yisser im not the grinder that you are

if you play something that pays 3:1 then in theory it's three times harder to hit than a 1:1 play so it stands to reason if you hit 1/2 of your 1:1 plays then you're going to hit 1/6 of your 3:1 plays

tell me how logically thats incorrect

sure you can find value in some places but when youre talking betpoints, common gueye

[Louisvillekid1]

I take long shot parlays, or a big ml dog...

Maximize

If you just points bet 8 3 team parlays every way...

[BigDaddy]

better off using it on longer shot parlays

agree

or at least use -110 on all the lines

big favs

worst way to do it.

[yisman]

yisser im not the grinder that you are

if you play something that pays 3:1 then in theory it's three times harder to hit than a 1:1 play so it stands to reason if you hit 1/2 of your 1:1 plays then you're going to hit 1/6 of your 3:1 plays

tell me how logically thats incorrect

3/1 is not three times as difficult to hit as 1/1. But that's just for starters.

The longer shot the parlay, the more EV.

Now you can't expect everyone to do 10/1 every time, but you'd be foolish not to do at least 3/1 each time. I don't go lower than 4/1, really.

Like this:

Ticket #: 1895638 Jan 23 09:35 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET (FP) [19506] TING LI +400 (MARIA SHARAPOVA vrs TING LI)

0.00 / 800.00

800.00

WIN WIN

01/23/2013 06:40 PM

Ticket #: 1916191 Feb 04 07:00 PM Feb 04 07:00 PM

CBB CBB

PARLAY (2 TEAMS) (FP) [717] TOTAL o131-110 (NOTRE DAME vrs SYRACUSE) [732] SIENA +330

0.00 / 180.23

0.00

LOSE LOSE PEND

02/04/2013 05:47 PM

[InTheDrink]

3/1 is not three times as difficult to hit as 1/1. But that's just for starters.

The longer shot the parlay, the more EV.

Now you can't expect everyone to do 10/1 every time, but you'd be foolish not to do at least 3/1 each time. I don't go lower than 4/1, really.

so a game thats +300 isnt 1/3 as likely to hit as +100?

you got anything to support that?

not being a dick about it...im genuinely curious

why wouldnt everyone just blindly play +300 games

[Louisvillekid1]

This is how you use a free play

GameDate	Sport	Description	Risk/Win	Win/Loss Amount	Result	Date Placed
Ticket #: 1892523 Jan 21 07:00 PM Jan 21 07:30 PM	CBB CBB	PARLAY (2 TEAMS) (FP) [725] WRIGHT ST. +550 [727] GEORGETOWN +200	0.00 / 3237.50	3237.50	WIN WIN WIN	01/21/2013 03:55 PM

[Louisvillekid1]

so a game thats +300 isnt 1/3 as likely to hit as +100?

you got anything to support that?

not being a dick about it...im genuinely curious

why wouldnt everyone just blindly play +300 games

Not if you have an angle on the game...

[InTheDrink]

Not if you have an angle on the game...

yeah but my point is that you can have an angle on any game....doesnt matter if its free play or not

free play is just like money imo (or points in this case)

i really dont get what you guys are saying....to me all youre saying is youre willing to take chances with fp that you woudlnt with cash...doesnt mean they pay better....except the one you just posted

[yisman]

so a game thats +300 isnt 1/3 as likely to hit as +100?

you got anything to support that?

not being a dick about it...im genuinely curious

why wouldnt everyone just blindly play +300 games

Dude, this is basic probability.

A +300 means an implied probability of 25%.

A +100 means an implied probability of 50%.

Why wouldn't you just blindly bet +300?

Because if you bet +300 four times and lose three and win one, you break even.

If you bet +100 twice and split, you break even.

That's if you're using real money.

With freeplays, the math clearly dictates that a 3/1 is vastly preferable to a 1/1.

There's no opinions here. This is statistics.

Bet 50 freeplay on four different +300 plays. You hit one. You have $150 cash.

Bet 50 freeplay on four different +100 plays. You hit two (they're more likely to hit, obviously). You have $100 cash.

Would you rather have 100 or 150?

[yisman]

free play is just like money imo (or points in this case)

I guess you may as well use your freeplays on -500 MLs if you believe that.

A freeplay is not just like money.

This is how you use a free play

GameDate	Sport	Description	Risk/Win	Win/Loss Amount	Result	Date Placed
Ticket #: 1892523 Jan 21 07:00 PM Jan 21 07:30 PM	CBB CBB	PARLAY (2 TEAMS) (FP) [725] WRIGHT ST. +550 [727] GEORGETOWN +200	0.00 / 3237.50	3237.50	WIN WIN WIN	01/21/2013 03:55 PM

[TheMoneyShot]

I usually just let the FP's build and take one big shot at a game. I think I had my FP balance up to around 500-600 once.

[yisman]

I usually just let the FP's build and take one big shot at a game. I think I had my FP balance up to around 500-600 once.

I once had it over 4k. That was in December I think.

Now it's at 660.

[soul786]

Wooooow this thread just blossomed

[turtlejc]

Feb 05 10:30 PM
Feb 05 10:30 PM

NHL
NHL
PARLAY (2 TEAMS) (FP)
[69] TOTAL o5½+120
(CHICAGO vrs SAN JOSE)
[69] CHICAGO -105

0.00 / 197.71

197.71
WIN
WIN
WIN
02/05/2013 08:25 PM

[RudyRuetigger]

unreal

thread over

i would rather see arguing for 10 pages, then the solution

[trytrytry]

Ticket#:1917066 Feb 05 08:00 PM Feb 05 09:00 PM Feb 05 08:00 PM

Feb 05 01:01 PM

NBA NBA NHL

PARLAY (3 TEAMS) (FP) [508] MEMPHIS -410 [510] DENVER -300 [68] ST. LOUIS -185

0.00 / 93.30

60 point freeplay

that is an awful use of free play...

[BigDeem5]

pop corn twizzlers starburst

ju ju bees

[BigDaddy]

unless the terms state you must use the FP in a straight bet only

i would not play a +300 dog by itself

play +300 with team A -110 and team B -110

it pays for than 150

25 on each 2 team parlay

i myself would actually do it 4 ways in a 3 team parlay that pays a few cents more

12.5 on each 3 teamer

[yisman]

unless the terms state you must use the FP in a straight bet only

i would not play a +300 dog by itself

play +300 with team A -110 and team B -110

it pays for than 150

25 on each 2 team parlay

i myself would actually do it 4 ways in a 3 team parlay that pays a few cents more

12.5 on each 3 teamer

Just was pointing out that a +300 is vastly preferable to a +100.

As for parlays, that's if you're wanting to lock in guaranteed money, but it doesn't necessarily increase the EV.

At griff's shop, they only allow 2 teamers and the parlay odds are shaved, so I do ML dogs.

[ProPicker713]

You bet it on ARK at +590 like Stash does!

[BigDaddy]

"As for parlays, that's if you're wanting to lock in guaranteed money, but it doesn't necessarily increase the EV. "


sbr free plays

i would use a +300 dog with team A -110 and team B -110

it will pay me more than 150

why throw away the 15 or so points extra that it pays?

has nothing to do with locking in money

the +300 play still has to win.

same with any book allowing big dogs to bet with FP money

put another team in the parlay as it will pay more if your big dog hits.

[yisman]

ok, I see what you're saying now.

I did two parlays like that on Monday, but not the betting both sides part, because I'm not a fan of that.

Ticket #: 1915551 Feb 04 07:00 PM Feb 04 09:00 PM	CBB CBB	PARLAY (2 TEAMS) (FP) [717] NOTRE DAME +330 [727] TOTAL o124½-110 (TEXAS vrs WEST VIRGINIA)	0.00 / 360.45	0.00	LOSE LOSE PEND	02/04/2013 11:54 AM
Ticket #: 1916191 Feb 04 07:00 PM Feb 04 07:00 PM	CBB CBB	PARLAY (2 TEAMS) (FP) [717] TOTAL o131-110 (NOTRE DAME vrs SYRACUSE) [732] SIENA +330	0.00 / 180.23	0.00	LOSE LOSE PEND	02/04/2013 05:47 PM
Ticket #: 1916190 Feb 04 10:00 PM Feb 04 07:00 PM Feb 04 10:05 PM	CBB CBB CBB	PARLAY (3 TEAMS) (FP) [730] LOYOLA MARYMOUN -135 [732] SIENA +330 [734] SACRAMENTO STAT -260	0.00 / 374.56	0.00	LOSE PEND LOSE PEND	02/04/2013 05:46 PM