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    secretstash
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    This will get tons of views I bet ;) .. secretstash loan to CARSELLER4 :)

    not gonna say too much as our cantor in the following pms says it all.. but gl in this loan and please abide by all rules..

    IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED OR CHANGED I WILL BE THE SOLE PERSON TO DO THAT AND MY DECISIONS WILL BE FINAL..



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    Stash,

    Need you to get me back on track.

    Need a consolidation.

    3000 betpoints loan

    This will wipe out all current debt

    Arunsh 1664
    rufflesmuncher 243
    bswagos 121
    stash appreciation 542

    That is 2582 points.

    This will give me a fresh start of 418 points.

    I showed that I am best when I pay a steady 6 points a day.

    But to help speed up the payoff I am willing to commit to 50% of all poker and trivia winnings.

    Out of the 418, I am willing to put 110 points towards a poker escrow right off the top.

    Also no other loans at all while I am in debt to you.

    To make it worth you while, I am ready to set the payback at 4000 points! (you deserve it)

    Think hard, but don't think long, ready to make this happen!

    i cant even believe i am half considering this ...

    i really dont wanna do this for another 6 months . lol

    but if I were to do this (i am not saying yes now.. i am saying some things that u would have to change and be in agreement with)

    6 pts a day to debt.. the other 6 I expect 1 to goto poker fund automatic.. u can gamble the 5 on a game or on bj or whatever. that way every 11 days u built urself up 1 extra daily tournament.

    for now there will be NO weekend poker.. the only way I would ever consider it again is if guarantees come back.. in the current system spending 300 pts in the high roller to get 720 for 1st is DUMB.. and in the 33 pt one when u spend the max of 99 or whatever 1st is also 500-700.. not a great return.. so imo weekend poker is DONE and I wont be staking shit nor will u be using ur poker escrow towards it ever... if u wanna play u must get staked with ZERO payback if u lose.. if u win.. u can pay them whatever they agree to do as their percent... from the percent u get back total(if poker rollover or real pts), then u pay me the 50% of that and what not.

    Rules for poker winnings would be this

    50% off the top sent to me to handle the debt.
    10% directly to poker escrow.. but upto a MINIMUM of 11 pts to make up for the pts lost that day playing....
    20% to gambling fund (shown below a few paragraphs)***
    20% to carseller for a big gamble right after poker is accrued

    THIS means that if u only win 25 pts .. I get 12/then 11 goes to escrow (cuz minimum of 11) and the other 2 I suggest u just pay towards debt or escrow cuz I doubt u can gamble it. LOL ... why am I making this rule? because even if u win 50 pts in poker it still helps u get in the top 50 for the cash tournament so it isnt like u didnt earn anything.. plus u need pts to play in the next days tournaments so the more escrow u have the more poker u can play

    which brings me to the next thing. If u do really owe 2582 and are due 418 for an even 3000.. u will not be only putting 110 to poker.. this only gives u roughly 10 days to 2 weeks to make a profit.. not enough time because come time when this poker escrow runs out we arent turning this back into stash's charity depot and how i will be tons of pts down on escrow cuz u swindle me into threats of quitting or play weekend poker.

    The poker escrow has 22 pts in it.. U will be adding 250 more of the 418.. which leaves u with 168 to make a dent in some debt.. but I am not giving u the 168 either.. I am gonna do 10 increments of gambling fund like we did at one point and u paid off a ton a few days by doing it.

    Increments will be as follows. To start the Gambling Fund *** (from above 20% breakdown)

    168 pts
    1- 50 pt'er (to be used last )
    2- 25's
    5- 10's
    2-9's

    that is 10 tries for u to break the bank of sbr and pay little chunks of debt at a time.. (u may start out with a 25 btw).. but u may not use the other 25 for 24 hrs.

    u can use 3 per day.. so choose wisely.. once u use the 3rd one.. there is a 24 hr hold period from that end time till the next 3 will be released..

    if u manage to pay debt to me off with one of the 3 tries and it equals MORE than what the 3 tries borrowed was.. I will allow a 4th withdrawal.

    THIS METHOD WILL BE USED FOR ALL PTS WON whether its poker/trivia/some random giveaway or contest sbr gives up EVEN IF FREE ENTRY/ a paid entry contest/ OR ANYTHING ELSE I DECIDE IS FAIR WHICH WILL INCLUDE EVERYTHING basically

    so what u are agreeing to is that u will give up basically 80% of all pt income UNLESS its a 100% donation for u to gamble on.

    This includes trivia btw.. so say u cash 60 pt trivia and u do ur little parlays and u hit one for 100 pts.. it will be split as follows

    80% to the funds and the debt and 20% to u.

    50% off the top sent to me to handle the debt.
    10% directly to poker escrow.. but upto a MINIMUM of 11 pts to make up for the pts lost that day playing....
    20% to gambling fund (shown below a few paragraphs)***
    20% to carseller for a big gamble right after poker is accrued

    so would be 50 me/10% escrow(min 11 so 11)/20% gambling fund = 20/ and 20% carseller = 20-1 for the difference in poker = 19

    so u are not gonna get to gamble much BUT u have gambling fund escrowed and always avaialble.. and u have poker ALWAYS paid for with this new method.

    Why are we changing the methods where U fund ur own poker and gambling? because I am frankly done with investing a bunch of my own pts and stash specials are retired.. so dont even bother with an email.. u want a special??? build ur escrow of gambling up through ur poker SKILLS u say u have



    So just to rephrase everything without sooo much typing

    EVERYTHING u get in your acct pts wise (after 3 team parlay method for fp's except trivia) and after poker rollovers will be split as follows

    50% off the top sent to me to handle the debt.
    10% directly to poker escrow.. but upto a MINIMUM of 11 pts to make up for the pts lost that day playing....
    20% to gambling fund (shown below a few paragraphs)***
    20% to carseller for a big gamble right after poker is accrued


    And daily u owe 6 pts to debt and 1 pt to escrow so 7 total.. u can keep the other 5 and pay some more to debt/poker/ or gamble.



    BTW and for the record.. this is not an offer.. but I am just telling u this is the only way I would even consider spending time again on this..


    Here is the reality of this loan if its done.

    4000 sounds decent.. but I am not doing any stash specials or any of that 3 day match thing on this since its a debt to me and i cannot lose funds.. so lets u work for urself on this one again.
    Start the payback at 4750 owed and I will do 1 pt matched for every day.. when u get to 10 day increments we will subtract it.. this gives u plenty of time to payback and for me to not lose money by giving u a bonus off ur debt.

    also no offense but ur counting of what is left is not what I prefer.. in the future do xxx/4750 for the count please.. that way it is uniform and everyone including urself can subtract the two to verify at any pt

    -stash
    I can do this! Not missing much with weekend poker anyway...don't really like the rebuys and not having a guarantee is a rip-off.

    if u didnt read.. i wasnt offering.. but im not "not offering" either.. . for my own purposes of deciding.. when do ur amounts due go up on what dates with what guys?

    thx

    also if nothing happens immediately please pay 12 to arun as debt payment today as promised please tonight.. dont mess up ur credit nor my faith in u.

    i owe thad 1500 I think still so I need to pay that debt first and see where i am at.. i owe it by tonight or interest is accrued again.


    also if I did do this.. u have to realize the bashing I would take from the forum for bailing u out yet again..


    -stash
    Just letting you know until this deal is done I am still technically a free agent.
    whether or not i do this will all wage on a bet i am making tonight.. i will need two runners.. u can be one of them since oddly enough i trust u.

    get in my thread once i make it here in next 10 mins

    -stash

    OK, standing by.

    so bottom line is I pay ur 3 debts off and the stash appreciation.. and u get the difference of 3000 total pts put into poker escrow and gambling fund.

    u are to pay 7 pts every day until further notice.. 6 to debt and 1 to poker escrow.

    gl and please make first payment NOW

    -stash
    Last edited by secretstash; 05-01-12 at 11:24 PM.

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    Ready to get started!

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    Total debts owed
    121 to bswagos - paid - http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sbr-points...l#post14623254
    243 - rufflesmuncher - paid - http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sbr-points...l#post14623194
    542 Secretstash Appreciation - paid - http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sbr-points...l#post14623162
    1664 DISCOUNTED 100 1564 ArunSh - paid - http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sbr-points...l#post14623180

    2470 Paid in full on all debts

    530 remaining to be distributed in next post


    -stash
    Last edited by secretstash; 05-01-12 at 11:07 PM.
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    7 sent

    6 to debt
    1 to poker fund

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    Carrying over 22 poker pts. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sbr-points...l#post14623162

    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    7 sent

    6 to debt
    1 to poker fund
    and 530 left to be applied to gambling fund and poker escrow.. since ArunSh gave a 100 pt discount.. we will do 50 to poker and 50 to gamble with TONIGHT!

    here is the following way the 530 will be distributed... 300 to poker(250 +50) and remaining to gambling fund of 230


    Day 1 Paid
    Poker Escrow = 22+250+50(arunsh bonus) + 1(sent tonight) - 11 (for tomorrow already subtracting) = 323 Poker Escrow!
    Gambling Fund = 230 +50(for stash's winning bet on boston!) = 280 = 3 - 50's (only 1 can be used for next 24 hrs) / 2 - 25's / 8-10's

    Total Debt Status = 6/4750



    remember of gambling fund 3 max per 24 hrs unless u pay the EQUIVELENT amount borrowed in that 24 hr period to debt as well then u get 1 more withdrawal from fund.


    Also for the future please remember the payouts on all winnings/etc as

    50% debt
    10% poker escrow
    20% gambling fund
    20% carseller4 directly.





    -stash
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    Don't understand Your fetish with carseller .

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    I have mixed feelings about this but thanks for paying me back CS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boeing power View Post
    Don't understand Your fetish with carseller .


    Quote Originally Posted by bswagos View Post
    I have mixed feelings about this but thanks for paying me back CS!
    bottom line is here guys that carseller wants loans loans loans.. but in reality he just really wants to play poker more than anything.

    i think like last time my structure will work.. except this time carseller is virutally lending to himself and paying me back the upfront at 6 per day.. but really all I have done is create a system that will let him restock his poker fund and his gambling pleasure fund each time he wins.. that way when he wants to gamble he can.. and daily when he wants to play poker, he surely can... it may need adjusted down the line.. but atleast for a month this system should work fairly well.

    as far as carseller being in debt to me 4750 pts.. well the fact of the matter is that carseller is not a stiff.. I truly believe he will pay the 6 per day.. below avg .. sure.. but its an agreement we made.. and just as i shown him before he could pay a large debt off in a short period I would be willing to bet in the next 3-6 months this one will be paid off as well.. which would be an avg far over 6 pts.. more like 20-30 per day

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    paid 12

    18/4750

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    paid 25

    43/4750

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    Had a good run with only 5 points!

    requesting 100 from the gambling fund. Want to hit some afternoon baseball tomorrow.

    Good first day so far!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    Had a good run with only 5 points!

    requesting 100 from the gambling fund. Want to hit some afternoon baseball tomorrow.

    Good first day so far!
    not sure u quite understand.. but here is 50 which is the only 50 u can take for 24 hrs.

    u have 2 more withdrawals in 24 hrs left

    Gambling Fund = 230 +50(for stash's winning bet on boston!) = 280 = 3 - 50's (only 1 can be used for next 24 hrs) / 2 - 25's / 8-10's





    Day 1 Paid
    Poker Escrow = = 323 Poker Escrow!
    Gambling Fund = = 280-50 =230 = 2 - 50's / 2 - 25's / 8-10's

    Total Debt Status = 6+12+25 = 43/4750


    nj so far

    -stash

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    That 50 didn't go so well.

    Let me get a 25 and I'll see what I can do then I'll take a break for a while.
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    stash is what you would call an enabler

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuck621 View Post
    stash is what you would call an enabler
    But at least it's just points and not real cash. Comes down to personal responsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    That 50 didn't go so well.

    Let me get a 25 and I'll see what I can do then I'll take a break for a while.
    11 sent for poker just now too

    Day 1 Paid
    Poker Escrow = = 323 Poker Escrow!
    Gambling Fund = = 230-25 =205 = 2 - 50's / 1 - 25's / 8-10's

    Total Debt Status = = 43/4750




    -stash

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4
    Also what am I eligible for out of the gambling fund? If nothing when would be the next available?
    u can get a 10 or the last 25.. next time elligible would be 24hrs from this.. unless u pay in 25+50+whatever u borrow next 10 or 25 to debt and then u get a 4th withdrawal.. so if u withdrawal now 25.

    u have to pay 100 pts to debt today in order to get rid of the max 3rd withdrawal and open up a 4th until 8am tomorrow

    gl and decide wisely

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    requesting 25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    requesting 25
    Day 1 Paid
    Poker Escrow = = 323 Poker Escrow!
    Gambling Fund = = 205-25 =180 = 2 - 50's / / 8-10's

    Total Debt Status = = 43/4750


    ok gl and withdrawals are now closed until 8am thursday est time. Unless u pay in 100 pts to debt today.. then it reopens.. but plz keep in mind if u win at poker u must still follow the 50% debt/10% poker/20% G-fund/20% u ratio.. as always u can ALWAYS pay your 20% or portions directly to other accts like debt

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuck621 View Post
    stash is what you would call an enabler


    it sounded like carseller REALLY wanted to get out of debt, even asked for points to help him do it. then within a day he was taking more loans all over the place.
    so yeah carseller is a nice guy, but he has a points problem/loan problem

    best of luck with the new deal guys, seems like a lot of time and effort

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post


    it sounded like carseller REALLY wanted to get out of debt, even asked for points to help him do it. then within a day he was taking more loans all over the place.
    so yeah carseller is a nice guy, but he has a points problem/loan problem

    best of luck with the new deal guys, seems like a lot of time and effort
    I really wanted to get out of that particular debt...it went on for about a year and a half. Should be able to knock this one out in less than 3 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    I really wanted to get out of that particular debt...it went on for about a year and a half. Should be able to knock this one out in less than 3 months.
    good luck, maybe someone should hang a line on that? stash make it happen yes (paid off by 8/2) or no (not paid off by 8/2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    good luck, maybe someone should hang a line on that? stash make it happen yes (paid off by 8/2) or no (not paid off by 8/2)
    lol what side are you gonna take Mike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bswagos View Post
    lol what side are you gonna take Mike?
    probably shouldn't tip my hand but i would be on the NO

    it's really hard to average 50 pts/day payback (4750 owed)

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    Don't stop now mustache. Your half way to 10k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    probably shouldn't tip my hand but i would be on the NO

    it's really hard to average 50 pts/day payback (4750 owed)
    I figure I just have to take 5k in action on the no side then wait and payoff whatever he has left for the win

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    3rd place in the 10 AM

    275 X3 rolloer

    slikec is a beast.

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    175 rolled

    140 sent

    88 to debt
    17 to poker fund
    35 to gambling fund


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    I am a producer of points.

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    131/4750

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    12 more sent

    143/4750

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    3rd place in the 10 AM

    275 X3 rolloer

    slikec is a beast.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    175 rolled

    140 sent

    88 to debt
    17 to poker fund
    35 to gambling fund

    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    12 more sent

    143/4750
    nj at poker and earning urself closer to the cash tourny in sept too

    Day 1 Paid
    Poker Escrow = 323 +17= 340!
    Gambling Fund = = 180 +35=215 = 2 - 50's / 1-25 / 9-10's

    Total Debt Status = = 43+88+12 = 143/4750

    Nice job again and congrats u have unlocked 1 more withdrawal until 8am est tomorrow because u paid in to debt an equal amount or greater than what u borrowed (100 pts) (but it cannot be a 50 as I stated 24 hrs between all 50 pt and above gambles).. so u can do a 25 max


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    ready for a 25
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswagos View Post
    I figure I just have to take 5k in action on the no side then wait and payoff whatever he has left for the win

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    7 sent

    6 to debt
    1 to poker fund

    149/4750

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