[neverstoppers23]

300 max is all you need to know. if it was unlimited I would take out a payday betpoints loan.

[andywend]

300 max is all you need to know. if it was unlimited I would take out a payday betpoints loan.

When Obama loses in November, neverstoppers would then stiff the payday betpoints loan center and file a lawsuit against them for unfair lending practices.

You can buy all the Obama you want over at Intrade around -145 which is a far better price than what is offered in the SBR book.

When Obama tries to defend the horrible economy that has occurred under his watch, it won't be the anemic John McCain that he is debating. Mitt Romney is going to tear Obama to shreds.

[Balco10]

He would file for bankruptcy! Oh this is something Obama almost did before he became president.
There was a forclosure on his home.

[rkelly110]

Idiots, it will take more than 10 years to recover from a depression as bad as this.
Expecting 'bama to have us recover in 3 years is asinine. (showing good signs)

This depression was a perfect storm. Dot com bubble burst, 9/11 attacks, 2 wars,
high unemployment, housing bubble burst, Euro nations having trouble and our govt bickering, all came together to give us/ world a really bad economy.

It's going to be a slow go. Even if Mitt gets in, it will still be slow. (or worse if they cut govt jobs)

[SBR_John]

Could have sworn Obama said he would make no excuses and that he wouldnt even run again if things were not better. The first go around he was the great moderate and the candidate of change and would reach out to all sides. This time around he is the king of excuses. He has divided the country and plunged the country into a sea of debt. But of course nothing is his fault.

[CrazyCarl]

@kelly

The idea that government can create jobs or that trying to have them do so is good for the economy is downright comical.

[rkelly110]

Yes John, 'bama had good intentions until the party of no, curbed those ideas.
I'm not a huge fan of the POTUS and agree he hasn't helped with the bridging
of the divide.

The govt/ states is the largest employer, cutting them would have a huge effect
on the economy.

[CrazyCarl]

That's an extremely simplistic way of thinking about it.

[Tully Mars 63]

I think Obama will win but at this point it really doesn't matter that much to me. The difference between Obama and Mitt is pretty slim. If Rick or Newt had won the nom. I'd be really concerned. People can scream all the hyperbole crap they want but the facts speak for themselves. During Obama watch Jobs have begun to return, private sector jobs as public sector jobs have been reduced. The dow is back to being over 13K. Bin Ladin is dead and hopefully we're finally getting our ass out of the sand trap that is the middle east, well at least most of our ass. Anyway I really don't see Mitt handling things much different then Obama has done. Sure Mitt made a bunch of really right wings statements to get the nom. but now he's in and he's talking more and more moderate everyday. Plus his record in Mass. (hello... Obamacare is modeled after Romneycare) much pretty much shows he's willing to make compromises and work with both sides to get things done. So really don't think it matters much who wins now, the economy will probably continue to grow regardless.

[Tseay]

Obama is a socialists. Obamacare is a GIANT step backward for US Healthcare for those will to be employed. I am a physician executive and stand to make a lot of money on the stupidity of Obamacare, and I am vehemently opposed to it because it must increase the death rate to succed. That is whay the federal government will be allowed to remove any amaerican from any health plan in any company with more thant $250K of payroll, it is the reason for the "reasonableness of healthcare committee", the so-called unelected "death squads" Hobama wants. Make no mistake, if Mom is on the ventilator with only a 15% chance of survival, and a 100% chance of spending $2.5 million of Mecicares dollars, her ass is dead because there will be no medical reasonableness EVEN if she survives! She is not a human now, she is a massive Medicare consumer, and will again be. Fifteen trillion dollars in debt??????????? and rising under Hobama $1.5 trillion a year?????? WTF I really do think that the 52% of Americans who dont pay income tax deserve an American ecomomy like Greece, in the EU bancrupsy court, kissing the germans asses. Lovely, at least we will get to kiss Mao's ass.

[Tseay]

Not that I am opinionated.

[d2bets]

The wording on this prop is odd. It's really a Romney backers SBR special. Romney +168 is far higher than what he's trading at on the opening market. I can get Obama -130 or so at Intrade.

[Balco10]

Barry has no chance!

[Balco10]

Barrack is against capitalist...He wants to be a movie star not a president! He was raised by all communist...from mother/father thur mentors and finally Bill Ayers paid his way through Harvard. REV Wright took him under his arms from there...

[Tully Mars 63]

You might want to take a look at this-

[thetrinity]

based on tullys map romney should win all of his leans and i think pa and nj are more tossup then lean obama, obama wins all the rest of his leans, that makes it even closer, i do think obama will get states like az colorado and nh, think those are more wins for obama then pa and nj, if obama wins florida he will be back again IMO

[thetrinity]

based on my math its more like 217 obama 170 romney 151 tossup. actually romney was born in michigan and thats a tossup, has a guy ever lost his own state and won the election

sbr special is a waste for tying up 300 points til november IMO

[Tully Mars 63]

Michigan has been polling poorly for Mitt. They didn't like his opinion on the auto company bailouts. Last poll saw was done about a week ago and Obama was up by about 6pts. Mitts having similar problems in a lot of the mid west rust belt states. Obama's been leading in Ohio by about 5pts.

Really it's May and anything can happen but Obama's numbers are where GW Bush were in May '04. Though Bush clearly had no path without Ohio and probably Florida. Obama could take the White House and not win either... that's unusual.

Almost forgot... I think it's possible Obama takes Arizona but the it would be really close and likely solely due to increased Hispanic votes. If he can't get huge turn outs of the youth and Latino's Arizona will go GOP just like it has every election since '96.

[SBR_John]

A great longshot bet.

[thetrinity]

Michigan has been polling poorly for Mitt. They didn't like his opinion on the auto company bailouts. Last poll saw was done about a week ago and Obama was up by about 6pts. Mitts having similar problems in a lot of the mid west rust belt states. Obama's been leading in Ohio by about 5pts.

Really it's May and anything can happen but Obama's numbers are where GW Bush were in May '04. Though Bush clearly had no path without Ohio and probably Florida. Obama could take the White House and not win either... that's unusual.

Almost forgot... I think it's possible Obama takes Arizona but the it would be really close and likely solely due to increased Hispanic votes. If he can't get huge turn outs of the youth and Latino's Arizona will go GOP just like it has every election since '96.

hes not a michigan blue collar type guy anyways, so him losing there isnt far fetched at all like you say. still would be weird to see him lose there and still win, he basically has to win florida though.

[Smoke]

Could have sworn Obama said he would make no excuses and that he wouldnt even run again if things were not better. The first go around he was the great moderate and the candidate of change and would reach out to all sides. This time around he is the king of excuses. He has divided the country and plunged the country into a sea of debt. But of course nothing is his fault.

Obama inherited the debt from Bush. When Clinton left office we were in a budget surplus. After 8 years of Bush well we all know what happened

[SBR_John]

Obama inherited the debt from Bush. When Clinton left office we were in a budget surplus. After 8 years of Bush well we all know what happened

I'm just saying that Obama knew what he was inheriting unless he is completely clueless. He said he was NOT going to make excuses. He has failed to unite us as promised. He failed to revive the economy as he himself promised he would or he wouldn't seek another term. Those are his words. By his own admission he has failed. The $5trillion in new debt racked up under his watch failed to do anything except move us closer to complete financial collapse. Do we really want four more years of bitter fighting for his higher taxes and continuing resolutions to authorize even more than the current $15 trillion in debt? Or have we had enough?

[King Mayan]

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[secretstash]

I'm just saying that Obama knew what he was inheriting unless he is completely clueless. He said he was NOT going to make excuses. He has failed to unite us as promised. He failed to revive the economy as he himself promised he would or he wouldn't seek another term. Those are his words. By his own admission he has failed. The $5trillion in new debt racked up under his watch failed to do anything except move us closer to complete financial collapse. Do we really want four more years of bitter fighting for his higher taxes and continuing resolutions to authorize even more than the current $15 trillion in debt? Or have we had enough?

i agree with what u are saying john.. i just wish there was better candidates to choose from.. my ballot might appear fairly blank because there is no other valid option imo.. romney is the only one with even half a chance and I still dont believe he will be able to change much for the better.. imo the next 4 yrs is a wash and the real race with solid candidates will be 2016

-stash

[rkelly110]

I would say fire the current crop of Repubs who refuse to work with anyone other than
themselves. It's a marriage, compromises have to be made in govt just like for a household. If not, divorce, fire, do not re elect.

It's not the pres, it's the 500 morons beneath him, they are the problem. Choose wisely.

[Smoke]

I'm just saying that Obama knew what he was inheriting unless he is completely clueless. He said he was NOT going to make excuses. He has failed to unite us as promised. He failed to revive the economy as he himself promised he would or he wouldn't seek another term. Those are his words. By his own admission he has failed. The $5trillion in new debt racked up under his watch failed to do anything except move us closer to complete financial collapse. Do we really want four more years of bitter fighting for his higher taxes and continuing resolutions to authorize even more than the current $15 trillion in debt? Or have we had enough?

Obama got us out of the recession, saved the auto industry, saved millions of jobs, and was able to pass health care reform. That 5 trillion in new debt you speak of has a lot to do with those 2 wars that Bush started. Do you realize how much those wars cost?? Obama got us out of Iraq and soon to be out of Afghanistan

[Balco10]

Obama got us out of the recession, saved the auto industry, saved millions of jobs, and was able to pass health care reform. That 5 trillion in new debt you speak of has a lot to do with those 2 wars that Bush started. Do you realize how much those wars cost?? Obama got us out of Iraq and soon to be out of Afghanistan

You are completely clueless!!!!
Obama is worst the Jimmy Carter! Bush never started a war. The terrorist did! Obama spent too much on green useless energy. Two solar companies go under after Barrack gave then millions. Obamacare is a disaster! Any president would took out Bin Laden! Barracks wants to be a movie star and not a president of the USA! He is a f*cking disgrace! More rounds of golf then any president in history. You thing he cares about you or the poor??? He was raised as a socialist or should I say communist. Look at his family tree. Underground Weather Bill Airs paid for his education at Harvard. Wasn't he a terrorist? Has anyone checked his fathers bio? He killed many people in Africa and was a communist.

[GUMMO77]

I'm just saying that Obama knew what he was inheriting unless he is completely clueless. He said he was NOT going to make excuses. He has failed to unite us as promised. He failed to revive the economy as he himself promised he would or he wouldn't seek another term. Those are his words. By his own admission he has failed. The $5trillion in new debt racked up under his watch failed to do anything except move us closer to complete financial collapse. Do we really want four more years of bitter fighting for his higher taxes and continuing resolutions to authorize even more than the current $15 trillion in debt? Or have we had enough?

So are under the assumption that Obama is spending too much? I only ask because I hear this argument from hardcore Republicans.

[andywend]

Obama inherited the debt from Bush. When Clinton left office we were in a budget surplus. After 8 years of Bush well we all know what happened

Obama inherited the debt from the democratic controlled congress under Bush. The republican controlled congress under Clinton created a budget surplus.

Our country was running along quite nicely until the democrats took back control of congress after the 2006 mid-terms and then everything fell apart.

Congress is responsible for how much money the federal government spends NOT the president.

Barack Obama did propose a federal budget this year and it was voted down 414-0 by the house of representatives.
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How about them Grizzlies falling apart in Game 1 versus the Clippers blowing a 24 point lead in the middle of the 4th quarter?

Nothing like losing every bet you make and then going on tilt and bet everything you have on the night game and turning off the TV when your team is up by 24 midway through the 4th quarter and feeling great that you won it all back, LOL.

Did Obama come through with your bailout?

[DwightShrute]

Obama got us out of the recession, saved the auto industry, saved millions of jobs, and was able to pass health care reform. That 5 trillion in new debt you speak of has a lot to do with those 2 wars that Bush started. Do you realize how much those wars cost?? Obama got us out of Iraq and soon to be out of Afghanistan

[Balco10]

Dwight is a brainwashed liberal! Very sad...Liberalism not works!

[The Kraken]

Obama is a socialists. Obamacare is a GIANT step backward for US Healthcare for those will to be employed. I am a physician executive and stand to make a lot of money on the stupidity of Obamacare, and I am vehemently opposed to it because it must increase the death rate to succed. That is whay the federal government will be allowed to remove any amaerican from any health plan in any company with more thant $250K of payroll, it is the reason for the "reasonableness of healthcare committee", the so-called unelected "death squads" Hobama wants. Make no mistake, if Mom is on the ventilator with only a 15% chance of survival, and a 100% chance of spending $2.5 million of Mecicares dollars, her ass is dead because there will be no medical reasonableness EVEN if she survives! She is not a human now, she is a massive Medicare consumer, and will again be. Fifteen trillion dollars in debt??????????? and rising under Hobama $1.5 trillion a year?????? WTF I really do think that the 52% of Americans who dont pay income tax deserve an American ecomomy like Greece, in the EU bancrupsy court, kissing the germans asses. Lovely, at least we will get to kiss Mao's ass.

Where are you a physicians executive? That's a very niche market and not many jobs. I've actually never met anyone that held the position, just read about it. Also, what field of medicine do you practice in and what extra requirements were there to be a physicians executive? Thank you

[The Kraken]

Obama is by far the best president since Bill Clinton

[Balco10]

Obama is by far the best president since Bill Clinton

Really? Then you don't know shit about history! He has spend the most the any president, has no clue about economics, and is a George Soros inbred!

[Andy117]

Dwight is a brainwashed liberal! Very sad...Liberalism not works!

Are you that drunk that you can't realize that Dwight isn't a liberal.