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    Wilforth
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    White Sox +162

    Lee is a stud, yes. But the Tribe aren't in scoring form right now. Richard is improving by the day, so the CWS/CLE contest will likely be decided by the pens where CWS has a considerable edge.

    Likely outcomes for this game:
    FF Under 4.5
    CWS for game.

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    I'm liking cws for the game. Lee's due for a loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by b.hess1 View Post
    I'm liking cws for the game. Lee's due for a loss
    Plus the Tribe seem to be enjoying their losing streak.

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    hard to bet against lee but I see where you are coming from.. I'm on this value play for 1 unit

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    got it at +156.. people must be following

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    There's definitely value. But you are trusting a rookie will very little track record to beat the probable AL CY Young winner. Lee will pitch 8 innings today. The Chi Sox are also not stellar on the road. GL.

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    This Richard kid held the hot O's bats to 3 runs in 7 innings. With their current offensive form, the Indians may not get more than 2 against this kid. If Lee leaves the mound with just a one-run lead, then the White Sox will take the game rather easily.
    I also think after going 8-0 at home, Lee is due to go 8-1 rather than 9-0.
    Plus, Lee may wait one more game to get his 20th win of the season. There's no need rushing to make such headlines. He may follow in the footsteps of Webb and delay his 20th win of the season.
    Along with the Mariners, this is one of today's most probable upsets.

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    I am a Cleveland fan and homer. But, I will throw this out there.....ChiSox have a .634 winning % (26-15) against Lefthanded starters this year. ChiSox own us as they have won 9 of the last 10 meetings (including one where Lee took a ND). The Indians ALWAYS seem to make young starting pitchers they have never faced before seem like Cy Young. I always joke with my girlfriend when we face a young kid for the first time I am betting on the other team and they always seem to win. Anyway, just my 2 cents.....

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    Thanks JM for the education.

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    You know, I am starting to like this play. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most pitchers struggle in their first opportunity of getting the their twentieth win of the season. Look at Brandon Webb last night. I'm pretty sure I have seen this trend in years past as well. Anyway, I think Cliff Lee could lose this one. He is certainly due and he will probably come to the same realization as Webb and may not trust his stuff.

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    This is dead arm time for guys that have pitched all year as well....

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    I watch a lot of Indians games and have seen and heard many interviews with Lee. After all of what he went through last year, he is not going to let the fact he is going for win #20 bother him. He is a blue collar type of guy who just comes to the park every 5 days and throws strikes. Cy Young award possibilities and 20th. win chances slide off of his back. He is the consummate team guy. However, based on what I stated in my previous post the Chisox own lefties and us and I think the Sox are a good play. However, I never bet on or against the Tribe so no play for me.

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    Cliff Lee is awesome.

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    4-0 clevelan ... And i think everyone knows that a 4run lead is more then enough for Lee..

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    Yeah. I hate to call a game early, but this one looks just about wrapped up.

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    Well we all no anything can happen... I say they are safe... But Lee wont pitch a CG so gotta hope the pen can close it out... ChiSox can hit the ball... I have Cleveland on the rnline so im hoping they stay strong and close this game out...

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    lol at us fools who bet this. lee is as dominant as they come right now.

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    Now I will know never to fade him for the rest of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingctb27 View Post
    lol at us fools who bet this. lee is as dominant as they come right now.
    I think everyone is waiting for Lee to crack like Webb did his past to games... Even i had to think about it before i put my bet in...

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    i tried to tell you wilforth
    chisox are not god on road
    lee is top 5m abd cleve is barely worse than chisox

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    Lee still in ??? They should have took his ass out... 2on no outs...

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