1. 02-01-11 06:54 PM #1
    forloveofthegame
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    McCutchen best centerfielder in the game??

    Was a bit surprised when MLB Network made him the #1 centerfielder in the league but do believe it is much deserved. Thoughts?
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  2. 02-01-11 07:18 PM #2
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    lol, no he might be top 10. dont know if youre talking defense or overall but he is below avg defensively and a good, not great hitter. overall he is around gardner, chris young, bourn, ajax, grandy, rasmus, span, guti. i do think he will have a big year though
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  3. 02-01-11 11:04 PM #3
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    Good, young player. Not the top CF in the game though...
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  4. 02-02-11 12:13 AM #4
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    Shane Victorino, Werth (RF/CF), Jay Bruce (RF/CF), Colby Rasmus and CarGo are better than him. And I'm just talking NL.
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  5. 02-02-11 08:53 AM #5
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    top 10 in the nl..... very exciting player tho
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  6. 02-02-11 09:30 AM #6
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    Josh Hamilton is the best CF in the game
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  7. 02-02-11 10:33 AM #7
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    Obviously you guys haven't watched the pirates play.

    Even Leyland said last year "he is a superstar". Dude is a fvcking BEAST! And to the guy that says his defense isn't there is just plain comical.

    He had a slow 2nd half of the year last year and still put up overall numbers. He does not have the power as a guy like hamilton but he gets it done with the best of them.

    Comparing Rasmus to mccutchen is a fuckign joke too. Guy cant hit a breaking ball. Numbers dont tell it all for a young guy like him. He has got it and obviously Im not the only one that thinks so!
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  8. 02-02-11 01:07 PM #8
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    He's good, but you are obviously overreacting.
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  9. 02-02-11 01:10 PM #9
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    Hamilton and Cargo right now, but give him a chance to improve...
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  10. 02-02-11 02:17 PM #10
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    cargo is a left fielder dont know why hes been mentioned a couple times
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  11. 02-02-11 02:42 PM #11
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    ^
    Yeah, Car-Go is a corner outfielder.


    McCutchen is another 5-tool guy that doesn't make his living off of any one category. He'll get you good batting average, some power, a good amount of runs and RBI, and steal a bunch of bases. He's not spectacular in any category (aside from possibly stolen bases), but he'll contribute in all of them, making him a great guy to have on your team.
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  12. 02-02-11 03:28 PM #12
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    McCutchen is a STUD! If he wasn't on the Pirates this wouldn't even be a debate.
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  13. 02-02-11 04:04 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by forloveofthegame View Post
    And to the guy that says his defense isn't there is just plain comical.
    2009 uzr -1.3
    2010 uzr -14.4

    he probably isnt as bad as the -14.4 but almost certainly is below average for a cf (which isnt bad)
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  14. 02-02-11 04:07 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by forloveofthegame View Post
    cargo is a left fielder dont know why hes been mentioned a couple times
    i guess, although last year the plurality of his starts were in cf
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  15. 02-02-11 04:10 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by forloveofthegame View Post

    Even Leyland said last year "he is a superstar".
    leyland said it, must be true
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  16. 02-02-11 05:47 PM #16
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    uzr is a joke dude. it also says ronny cedeno is one of the top defensive shortstops in the league yet he might be one of the worst if you have ever seen him play! its just a sample size stat taking in a bunch of factors and putting out a number. watching him play is the only way to tell how good of a defensive player he is.
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  17. 02-02-11 05:58 PM #17
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    He started 58 games in center and 63 in LF. You can hardly say he's a LF only, sorry.
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  18. 02-02-11 06:24 PM #18
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    and whats he going to play this year??? left with fowler playing center. He is a LF and imo the best outfielder in the game
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  19. 02-02-11 07:01 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by forloveofthegame View Post
    uzr is a joke dude. it also says ronny cedeno is one of the top defensive shortstops in the league yet he might be one of the worst if you have ever seen him play! its just a sample size stat taking in a bunch of factors and putting out a number. watching him play is the only way to tell how good of a defensive player he is.
    lol are you serious

    how do you come up with uzr saying ONEDEC is the best shortstop in the league

    he was -3.6 last year, 0 the two years before that and -7 lifetime
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  20. 02-02-11 07:06 PM #20
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    15 out of 21 qualified ss = one of the top???????????????
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  21. 02-02-11 07:49 PM #21
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    according to uzr/150 he is the 8th best defensive ss. he is one of the worst i have ever seen when watching him
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  22. 02-02-11 08:01 PM #22
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    ummmmmmmmm he is 15/21 in uzr/150 among qualified ss

    what exactly are you looking at
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  23. 02-03-11 06:47 AM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by forloveofthegame View Post
    He is a LF and imo the best outfielder in the game
    Who?
    Car-Go?
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  24. 02-03-11 09:27 AM #24
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    Not the best CF today, but certainly not to say he won't be in 2013.
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  25. 02-07-11 03:24 PM #25
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    McCutchen is good. Very good actually. But the edge still goes to Torii Hunter. I will take a guy that gets 34 more RBI's over a guy that gets 24 more steals. Not to say McCutchen won't pass him soon, but I think Hunter still has him beat. And if you're talking only offense, Hamilton crushes his numbers if you consider Hamilton a CF only.
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    Eh? All around? Not a chance.
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  27. 02-07-11 03:55 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauulzcappin View Post


    Shane Victorino, Werth (RF/CF), Jay Bruce (RF/CF), Colby Rasmus and CarGo are better than him. And I'm just talking NL.
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  28. 02-07-11 05:21 PM #28
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    rasmus wouldnt even be known if he played for the pirates. pure comical some of the responses. hunter is in his mid to late 30s
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  29. 02-07-11 11:06 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regul8er View Post
    Not the best CF today, but certainly not to say he won't be in 2013.
    Good point, agree 100%.
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  30. 02-07-11 11:15 PM #30
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    McCutchen is the real deal. This kid will be a superstar and a perennial All-Star for years to come...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milanboy View Post
    McCutchen is good. Very good actually. But the edge still goes to Torii Hunter. I will take a guy that gets 34 more RBI's over a guy that gets 24 more steals. Not to say McCutchen won't pass him soon, but I think Hunter still has him beat. And if you're talking only offense, Hamilton crushes his numbers if you consider Hamilton a CF only.
    Didn't the Angels move Hunter to RF at the end of the year so they could bring up Borjous in CF?
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  32. 02-07-11 11:55 PM #32
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    Until the Pirates get some pieces McCutchen will never get the credit he deserves since nobody pays attention to the team. Either way though, he's probably not even a top 5 CF.
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  33. 02-08-11 12:23 AM #33
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    Who's that bad seed on the pirates with the attitude problem? Is it McCutcheon?

    Guy was a little prick like Milton Bradley & Jose Guillen rolled into one
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    nevermind, it was Morgan & looks like they booted his badass
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    Quote Originally Posted by forloveofthegame;8717704[B
    ]rasmus wouldnt even be known if he played for the pirates.[/B] pure comical some of the responses. hunter is in his mid to late 30s


    I seriously have no way to respond this without being ironic.
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