[pat venditto]

To the bank.

[BadBeatBodog]

Based on what? Arizona has the better offense and starting pitching. Defenses are a wash but Manny Ramirez, possibly the worst fielder in baseball, now roams the outfield for LA. His putrid defense certainly offsets most of his offense.

[pat venditto]

Dbacks do not have a better offense than the dodgers.

[pat venditto]

I don't think they have better pitching either.

1. billingsley
2.lowe
3.kuroda
4. Kershaw
dont know their 5th

1. haren
2.johnson
3.davis (sucks)
4.owings (sucks)
dont know their 5th

[BadBeatBodog]

The Diamondbacks have a guy named Brandon Webb who is their number one pitcher. You truly don't think AZ starting five isn't > LAD starting five?

ARI GPA: .250
LAD GPA:.239

Now of course the Dodgers get a boost with ManRam on offense, but as I said they receive a huge drop off in defense.

LA has the bullpen advantage but they're without Saito.

[BadBeatBodog]

And Owings isn't even on the ML roster right now; petit is starting for him. And you can't name the Dodgers' fifth starter (Jason Johnson). Yes I really trust your knowledge on this.

[pat venditto]

You didn't mention casey blake who also is a big boost for their offense.

[ryanXL977]

dodgers suck
az wins it

[BadBeatBodog]

Ah yes Casey Blake the savior. He is also a terrible defender and his offensive stats this year are buoyed by unsustainably high BAbip, LD%, and BA/RISP.

[pat venditto]

u wanna wager on that one ryan?

[ryanXL977]

sure
what odds


and are you going to be like jrichshow and not pay

that guy is garbage

[BadBeatBodog]

Pat LA is +140 on Matchbook to win the NL West. You should love that line.

[pat venditto]

What line do you think is fair ryan?

[unde0087]

Pat before Dodgers win the division they have to win tomorrow and I don't even know if that will be a possibility since Kuroda is 0-1 with a 8.22 ERA in two career starts against Arizona. Good Luck

[Kingctb27]

The Dodgers will win the NL West is correct.

The Dodgers now have 4 hitters who are better than any one that the D-Backs attain... And say what you want about the D-Backs having better hitting stats than the dodgers to this point, but the fact is that Andruw Jones carries down all of them, and I don't see Torre playing him as much down the stretch with the Dodgers lacking a true lead off man with Furcal hurt and Pierre on the bench. (Not saying Pierre is the best in the world with his super low walk rate...)

I would say that the D-backs do have better starting pitching, but if Kershaw continues to throw his Curve in the zone and not walk so many guys they are not far behind...

Billingsley > Webb.

[unde0087]

The verdict is still out on this one. I would have to say Webb and Haren are way better than the Dodgers can ever put on the mound at any time. Second, we will see if Manny behaves and actually starts caring about team baseball instead of acting like a jackass having that all about me attitude that got him chased out of Boston. Before we start talking about the Dodgers being contenders for anything lets see if they can find their way over .500.

[ryanXL977]

billinsgley is better than webb? did someone seriously say that shit
are you retarded?

[unde0087]

billinsgley is better than webb? did someone seriously say that shit
are you retarded?

ya, that is what I thought. Once of the dumbest things I have ever heard

[Kingctb27]

ya, that is what I thought. Once of the dumbest things I have ever heard

Yeah, I didn't st-st-studder.

Billingsley has superior upside than a guy like Webb IMO. Once again, all you guys do is look at Wins and not the stats that Pitchers can actually control.

After the rain debacle in April Bills has basically been the best pitcher in both leagues.

[ryanXL977]

i am not looking at wins at all, i am looking at what webb does year in and year out
i could care less about wins

how can you possibly say billingsley is better than webb
what has billingsley done year in and out?

ps. webb rocks the dodgers every single time

adding many does nothing
az wins the division
they have the two best pitchers in baseball and a batter pen

DODGERS BRING IN CHAN HO PARK in a 1-0 game

[EagesBets]

RYAN.. email

[unde0087]

Yeah, I didn't st-st-studder.

Billingsley has superior upside than a guy like Webb IMO. Once again, all you guys do is look at Wins and not the stats that Pitchers can actually control.

After the rain debacle in April Bills has basically been the best pitcher in both leagues.

you and Pat are ****ing retarded if you really think Billingsley is better than Webb. Webb can control wins because he doesn't let the other team score. What are you on?

This season:

Billingsley
Key Stats
IP W-L SV ERA Ks BB
138.2 11-9 0 3.05 145 56

Webb
Key Stats
IP W-L SV ERA Ks BB
154.0 15-4 0 3.04 130 39

Webb is 8-0 in last 9 against Dodgers so he basicly makes whoever is pitching for the Dodgers his little bitch. He is only given up 9 runs in 71 innings pitched against the Dodgers.

Not too mention that he has a Cy Young and in the running again this season, Billingsley hasn't ever been mentioned even close to a sentence like that.

Record kills Billingsley's, Webb has less walks in more innings, the only thing Billingsley has on him is more K's, that is it

Ya, they look really close, I sure know who I would want on my team. Billingsley looks like a AAA starter compared to Webb.

[ryanXL977]

im not even talking wins and losses here. obviusly billingsley is good , but to say he is better than webb with ZERO proof is nutty

[Kingctb27]

Lmao Bills is one hell of an AAA pitcher if that's where he belongs.

Bills will be the better pitcher from here on out. Watch a game my friends.

[ArenaPlaya]

Pat cmon Dodgers wont win shit Dbacks or Rocks win the division

[ryanXL977]

az is better than lad
they always whup em and always will
lad aint good
they aint even 500

[unde0087]

Lmao Bills is one hell of an AAA pitcher if that's where he belongs.

Bills will be the better pitcher from here on out. Watch a game my friends.

Didn't really mean he is a AAA caliber pitcher, i am talking about compared to Webb. Look Bills is a good pitcher but I just can't agree with him being at the same level as Webb.