[ryanXL977]

so we arent debating the fielding? make up your mind

better hitters:
rollins
hanley
reyes
young
furcal
tejada
jj hardy


all clearly better numbers , except possibly furcal. but he is such a better fielder than jeter i will take him
do you watch yanks games only or something

[element1286]

bartlett is a better fielder, so is jack wilson, and the dude who played ss for the stros in the last 2 years, forgot his name
there are a ton of better fielders, a ton

Adam Everett

[Tsoprano]

I agree with Bear, MJ comes on here and gets crazy about everything because he is a fan of whoever is being discussed. Its ridiculous and he doesnt even fit his own standards "only people with brains should reply in this thread"

He is a Yankee fan, a biased Piston fan, and it all shows in his arguments.

[Tsoprano]

I am just keepin it real, I am not a fan of anyone

Let's hear the hitters

I really wasnt debating the fielding aspect right now

and please take back what you said about all of those shortstops you mentioned have better arms

you real make yourself look stupid when you say that

thanks

[ryanXL977]

how do you pick yanks and pistons
what town is the guy from?

[element1286]

I am just keepin it real, I am not a fan of anyone

Let's hear the hitters

I really wasnt debating the fielding aspect right now

and please take back what you said about all of those shortstops you mentioned have better arms

you real make yourself look stupid when you say that

thanks

Tulowitski, Beatancourt, Furcal, and Escobar have much better arms that Jeter for sure, I'm not sure about the others.

[Tsoprano]

how do you pick yanks and pistons
what town is the guy from?

I believe Philly.

[ryanXL977]

is orlando cabrera a better fielder? or maizer itzuris? i will take jeter over renteria i guess.

[ryanXL977]

a dude from philly, picks nyy and pistons
thats shameful
SHAMEFUL

[BuddyBear]

I pay lots of money for school to become a sports journalist

so that will have to wait buddy

It's a gambling forum dude

[ryanXL977]

journalism school (supposedly, though not in this case), teaches you how to write , not how to rank shortstops

[MJFtheGenius]

Better hitter then Jeter????

rollins .274 avg 6hr 31 RBI NO
hanley .311 avg 3 hr 45 RBI YES
reyes .302 avg 10hr 43 RBI YES
young .302 avg 7hr 52RBI YES
furcal (only played 32 games) NO
tejada .275 avg 10hr 44 RBI NO
jj hardy .283 avg 13hr 40 RBI NO


Derek Jeter .284 avg 5hr 42RBI


should be noted that all of these guys are in their prime besides tejada. Jeter is past his prime

and jeter 2007 numbers Avg .322 12 hr and 73 RBI

and the prior year he was in the MVP race

this guy will be the all time leader in hits like it or not

I am just telling it how it is

[MJFtheGenius]

It's a gambling forum dude

then why was this thread even started???

[Clueless_Norway]

Better hitter then Jeter????

rollins .274 avg 6hr 31 RBI NO
hanley .311 avg 3 hr 45 RBI YES
reyes .302 avg 10hr 43 RBI YES
young .302 avg 7hr 52RBI YES
furcal (only played 32 games) NO
tejada .275 avg 10hr 44 RBI NO
jj hardy .283 avg 13hr 40 RBI NO


Derek Jeter .284 avg 5hr 42RBI


should be noted that all of these guys are in their prime besides tejada. Jeter is past his prime

and jeter 2007 numbers Avg .322 12 hr and 73 RBI

and the prior year he was in the MVP race

this guy will be the all time leader in hits like it or not

I am just telling it how it is

You can't compare Rollins numbers for this year to Jeters as Rollins missed a lot of time earlier in the season...
Hardy got only 2 rbi's fewer and .001 avg lower... He got 7 more HR's. If Jeter was playing for Brewers he wouldn't been near 42, would guess 21 or so..
I would easy picked Rollins, Hardy, Hanley, Young and Reyes before Jeter.
Can't realy say anything about Furcal as he have played to few games this year, but im more worried when Furcal bat's against the team I have my money on then when Jeter does
Jeter was my fav player before, but...

Btw, Yanks and Pistons when your from Philly!!! Would been better pissing on the american flag...

[purecarnagge]

you guys have the most redicoulos claims to say Jeter is bad. I know these people in here that say get rid of Jeter obviously do not watch the Yankees play. He is a very productive player for them and is solid defensivly. If you get rid of Jeter who should the yankees get to replace him. Honestly. You people say he should be gone...for who? Sometimes I hear the dumbest things on here. PureCarnagge...you have to be the most unkowledgeable baseball fan here. Get rid of Damon? He is in the top 10 this year in batting avg for the AL and before his recent injury was on an absolute tear. Jeez people please...these arguments are retarted. If your gonna make idiotic statements please show me where you are finding evidence to make these moronic claims.

Yes, I want to pay for an overpaid injury proned throws it like Mary. You can find a much younger/consistant bat for that kind of money in the outfield. NY did Boston a favor in that signing.

So what if a guy had a good two months. Where is he now...Getting paid to be on the DL. Where are the Yankee's... 3rd in the division.

[MJFtheGenius]

You can't compare Rollins numbers for this year to Jeters as Rollins missed a lot of time earlier in the season...
Hardy got only 2 rbi's fewer and .001 avg lower... He got 7 more HR's. If Jeter was playing for Brewers he wouldn't been near 42, would guess 21 or so..
I would easy picked Rollins, Hardy, Hanley, Young and Reyes before Jeter.
Can't realy say anything about Furcal as he have played to few games this year, but im more worried when Furcal bat's against the team I have my money on then when Jeter does
Jeter was my fav player before, but...

Btw, Yanks and Pistons when your from Philly!!! Would been better pissing on the american flag...

I am not a fan of the Pistons

[ryanXL977]

are you seriously going to bring up jeters 07 numbers but not rollins or tulowitzkis
are you that weak

[dynamite140]

I agree. Jeter hits into double plays more than any other player i ever seen.

[in2thethickofit]

jeter=grounder

[jjgold]

If Jeter played on a team like Texas you never would of hear of him
He picked the perfect team and everything worked out
Of course he has had a great career

I think though he is done. The yanks would be nuts to sign him again and give him big money.

[Doug]

As a Yankee fan of sorts, the current Jeter isn't much of a player.....and is replaceable. The NY fans love him so it will be hard to not bring him back. He will most likely return but should get cut to about half ( or less) of current pay. Who else would pay over 10 million for him ?

[rfr3sh]

game ending double play

[brxbmbers42]

As a Yankee fan of sorts, the current Jeter isn't much of a player.....and is replaceable. The NY fans love him so it will be hard to not bring him back. He will most likely return but should get cut to about half ( or less) of current pay. Who else would pay over 10 million for him ?

Pay cut to half or less? I agree. Will never happen in a million years. He will get 80 to 100 million for 4 years. The yanks should tell him this is it after that. If you want to come back after the 4 pay is based on performance and a position switch might have to happen. He gets a minimum of 20 million a year for 4 years.

[Pauulzcappin]

game ending double play

[dynamite140]

Most overrated baseball player. King of hitting into DP's

[Doug]

4 years would be insane for an aging SS....but they also have no choice but to sign the guy based on his 15 or so years as a Yankee and popularity.

Clearly he is no better than average on defense ( probably below average) and not that great with the bat either but OK. Longevity being rewarded now.

[brxbmbers42]

4 years would be insane for an aging SS....but they also have no choice but to sign the guy based on his 15 or so years as a Yankee and popularity.

Clearly he is no better than average on defense ( probably below average) and not that great with the bat either but OK. Longevity being rewarded now.

The next contract will be the last big money and it will essentially be a thank you for the 5 ticker tape parades. It is insane to give him 80 to 100 for 4 years but thats exactly whats going to happen.

[Doug]

He needs to transition to LF at some point if he wants to play too long and try to catch Rose.

[brxbmbers42]

He needs to transition to LF at some point if he wants to play too long and try to catch Rose.

I dont think he will ever get to rose. Skills already eroding. gets to around 35-3600

[Doug]

agree with that estimate but he might try if they let him. He'd need to play until like 43 or something.

[Jericholic]

Jeter killed my bet today with his gidp's.

[head_strong]

thank you for the game ending db dj, ive had enough bad beats this past week...

[csm506]

Die Hard Yankee fan here, I know it seems that way, Do what I did stop betting on the Yankees, it has saved me quite a bit. GL

[Doug]

The next contract will be the last big money and it will essentially be a thank you for the 5 ticker tape parades. It is insane to give him 80 to 100 for 4 years but thats exactly whats going to happen.

3 and 50 would be plenty generous. By then the NY fans would lose faith in this decling icon.

I like the guy overall, but he no longer is important as a piece of a winning team. Let him get his 3,000th hit as a Yankee ( next year) and he should fade away after the 2011 season by rites, or play way cheaper.....like Pettite had to.

I really think 3 and 45-50 will be more like what he gets....and it is far too much.

We can't really have this guy playing the most important infield position at 38-39 yo, he's not really DH material ( lacks power), is mediocre on defense already, time for LF soon.

DJ is a good baserunner and a smart player that hustles....just not the guy he was 5-10 years ago.

[bacon22]

I hope he is not around enough to break the hit record.