1. #36
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    I get different results. I get 51-28, 65% YTD for -2.37 units!

    Here are the games:

    Code:
    Date	Team	Odds	W	L	Units
    31-Mar	Tigers	-208	0	1	-2.08
    1-Apr	Mets	-191	0	1	-1.91
    2-Apr	Phils	-225	0	1	-2.25
    3-Apr	Tigers	-182	0	1	-1.82
    4-Apr	Brewers	-201	1	0	1.00
    5-Apr	Yankees	-223	0	1	-2.23
    6-Apr	Brewers	-245	1	0	1.00
    7-Apr	Yankees	-103	1	0	1.00
    8-Apr	Toronto	-161	0	1	-1.61
    9-Apr	Toronto	-172	0	1	-1.72
    10-Apr	Mets	-161	1	0	1.00
    11-Apr	Indians	-167	0	1	-1.67
    12-Apr	Indians	-211	0	1	-2.11
    13-Apr	Indians	-167	1	0	1.00
    14-Apr	Dodgers	-170	0	1	-1.70
    15-Apr	Dodgers	-186	1	0	1.00
    16-Apr	Cubs	-185	1	0	1.00
    17-Apr	Toronto	-178	0	1	-1.78
    18-Apr	Red Sox	-215	1	0	1.00
    19-Apr	Red Sox	-164	1	0	1.00
    20-Apr	Yankees	-177	1	0	1.00
    21-Apr	Braves	-206	1	0	1.00
    22-Apr	D-Backs	-261	1	0	1.00
    23-Apr	Mets	-201	1	0	1.00
    24-Apr	Reds	-182	0	1	-1.82
    25-Apr	Brewers	-167	0	1	-1.67
    26-Apr	Dodgers	-180	1	0	1.00
    27-Apr	M's	-153	0	1	-1.53
    28-Apr	D-Backs	-185	1	0	1.00
    29-Apr	Mets	-222	1	0	1.00
    30-Apr	Indians	-169	1	0	1.00
    1-May	Indians	-145	1	0	1.00
    2-May	Red Sox	-162	1	0	1.00
    3-May	Indians	-230	0	1	-2.30
    4-May	Angels	-176	1	0	1.00
    5-May	D-Backs	-156	0	1	-1.56
    6-May	D-Backs	-146	1	0	1.00
    7-May	Astros	-171	1	0	1.00
    8-May	M's	-177	0	1	-1.77
    9-May	Dodgers	-184	0	1	-1.84
    10-May	Mets	-260	1	0	1.00
    11-May	A's	-146	1	0	1.00
    12-May	Cubs	-170	1	0	1.00
    13-May	Mets	-191	1	0	1.00
    14-May	D-Backs	-166	1	0	1.00
    15-May	Phils	-191	1	0	1.00
    16-May	Cubs	-145	1	0	1.00
    17-May	Cubs	-236	0	1	-2.36
    18-May	Red Sox	-225	1	0	1.00
    19-May	Red Sox	-175	1	0	1.00
    20-May	Dodgers	-171	1	0	1.00
    21-May	D-Backs	-163	0	1	-1.63
    22-May	Red Sox	-188	1	0	1.00
    23-May	Cubs	-161	1	0	1.00
    24-May	Yankees	-183	1	0	1.00
    25-May	Yankees	-225	1	0	1.00
    26-May	Phils	-201	1	0	1.00
    27-May	Mets	-187	1	0	1.00
    28-May	Cubs	-172	1	0	1.00
    29-May	D-Backs	-194	0	1	-1.94
    30-May	D-Backs	-202	0	1	-2.02
    31-May	Cubs	-240	1	0	1.00
    1-Jun	D-Backs	183	1	0	1.00
    2-Jun	Cards	-181	0	1	-1.81
    3-Jun	Braves	-176	1	0	1.00
    4-Jun	Chi Sox	-177	1	0	1.00
    5-Jun	Phils	-207	1	0	1.00
    6-Jun	Yankees	-232	0	1	-2.32
    7-Jun	Yankees	-205	1	0	1.00
    8-Jun	B-Jays	-210	1	0	1.00
    9-Jun	Yankees	-224	0	1	-2.24
    10-Jun	Red Sox	-206	0	1	-2.06
    11-Jun	Phils	-159	0	1	-1.59
    12-Jun	Indians	-174	1	0	1.00
    13-Jun	Yankees	-160	1	0	1.00
    14-Jun	M's	-203	0	1	-2.03
    15-Jun	Indians	-167	1	0	1.00
    16-Jun	Phils	-160	1	0	1.00
    17-Jun	Chi Sox	-174	1	0	1.00
    					
    TOTAL			51	28	-2.37
    					64.6%
    Last edited by LT Profits; 06-18-08 at 11:07 PM.

  2. #37
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    God, no doubt yours is more accurate. I'm half a sleep and deleted all my spreadsheets so I was trying to remember it off the top of my head, didn't go so well. Bottom line is still the same, it's a negative. Thanks man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    I get different results. I get 51-28, 65% YTD for -2.37 units!

    Here are the games:

    Code:
    Date	Team	Odds	W	L	Units
    31-Mar	Tigers	-208	0	1	-2.08
    1-Apr	Mets	-191	0	1	-1.91
    2-Apr	Phils	-225	0	1	-2.25
    3-Apr	Tigers	-182	0	1	-1.82
    4-Apr	Brewers	-201	1	0	1.00
    5-Apr	Yankees	-223	0	1	-2.23
    6-Apr	Brewers	-245	1	0	1.00
    7-Apr	Yankees	-103	1	0	1.00
    8-Apr	Toronto	-161	0	1	-1.61
    9-Apr	Toronto	-172	0	1	-1.72
    10-Apr	Mets	-161	1	0	1.00
    11-Apr	Indians	-167	0	1	-1.67
    12-Apr	Indians	-211	0	1	-2.11
    13-Apr	Indians	-167	1	0	1.00
    14-Apr	Dodgers	-170	0	1	-1.70
    15-Apr	Dodgers	-186	1	0	1.00
    16-Apr	Cubs	-185	1	0	1.00
    17-Apr	Toronto	-178	0	1	-1.78
    18-Apr	Red Sox	-215	1	0	1.00
    19-Apr	Red Sox	-164	1	0	1.00
    20-Apr	Yankees	-177	1	0	1.00
    21-Apr	Braves	-206	1	0	1.00
    22-Apr	D-Backs	-261	1	0	1.00
    23-Apr	Mets	-201	1	0	1.00
    24-Apr	Reds	-182	0	1	-1.82
    25-Apr	Brewers	-167	0	1	-1.67
    26-Apr	Dodgers	-180	1	0	1.00
    27-Apr	M's	-153	0	1	-1.53
    28-Apr	D-Backs	-185	1	0	1.00
    29-Apr	Mets	-222	1	0	1.00
    30-Apr	Indians	-169	1	0	1.00
    1-May	Indians	-145	1	0	1.00
    2-May	Red Sox	-162	1	0	1.00
    3-May	Indians	-230	0	1	-2.30
    4-May	Angels	-176	1	0	1.00
    5-May	D-Backs	-156	0	1	-1.56
    6-May	D-Backs	-146	1	0	1.00
    7-May	Astros	-171	1	0	1.00
    8-May	M's	-177	0	1	-1.77
    9-May	Dodgers	-184	0	1	-1.84
    10-May	Mets	-260	1	0	1.00
    11-May	A's	-146	1	0	1.00
    12-May	Cubs	-170	1	0	1.00
    13-May	Mets	-191	1	0	1.00
    14-May	D-Backs	-166	1	0	1.00
    15-May	Phils	-191	1	0	1.00
    16-May	Cubs	-145	1	0	1.00
    17-May	Cubs	-236	0	1	-2.36
    18-May	Red Sox	-225	1	0	1.00
    19-May	Red Sox	-175	1	0	1.00
    20-May	Dodgers	-171	1	0	1.00
    21-May	D-Backs	-163	0	1	-1.63
    22-May	Red Sox	-188	1	0	1.00
    23-May	Cubs	-161	1	0	1.00
    24-May	Yankees	-183	1	0	1.00
    25-May	Yankees	-225	1	0	1.00
    26-May	Phils	-201	1	0	1.00
    27-May	Mets	-187	1	0	1.00
    28-May	Cubs	-172	1	0	1.00
    29-May	D-Backs	-194	0	1	-1.94
    30-May	D-Backs	-202	0	1	-2.02
    31-May	Cubs	-240	1	0	1.00
    1-Jun	D-Backs	183	1	0	1.00
    2-Jun	Cards	-181	0	1	-1.81
    3-Jun	Braves	-176	1	0	1.00
    4-Jun	Chi Sox	-177	1	0	1.00
    5-Jun	Phils	-207	1	0	1.00
    6-Jun	Yankees	-232	0	1	-2.32
    7-Jun	Yankees	-205	1	0	1.00
    8-Jun	B-Jays	-210	1	0	1.00
    9-Jun	Yankees	-224	0	1	-2.24
    10-Jun	Red Sox	-206	0	1	-2.06
    11-Jun	Phils	-159	0	1	-1.59
    12-Jun	Indians	-174	1	0	1.00
    13-Jun	Yankees	-160	1	0	1.00
    14-Jun	M's	-203	0	1	-2.03
    15-Jun	Indians	-167	1	0	1.00
    16-Jun	Phils	-160	1	0	1.00
    17-Jun	Chi Sox	-174	1	0	1.00
    					
    TOTAL			51	28	-2.37
    					64.6%
    you didn't use covers. for example on april 7th all the games on covers didn't even have mls..?

    w.e man, i did it right, also, you didn't include June 18th, you also didn't include ties and play no action on them. Also, May 17th the highest on covers was boston at -223... BTW I DIDNT CHECK ALL OF YOURS SO YOUR WRONG IN OTHER ONES TOO.

    So, you're not using covers like I am, hence different results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddsmaker View Post
    Also, why is everyone so "offensive" about this? I'm only trying to help people with what I think is a good system..
    Because you are NOT helping anyone, as this method is doomed to fail, and some rookie may follow you thinking you discovered the Holy Grail. This method does not even involve any handicapping and is totally depended on a temporary anomely that is due to the fact that favorites have overperformed so far this year. Once the dogs start winning, this system will lose.

    So I am actually trying to help YOU out and suggest you abandon this rubbish. The only way to win at gambling is to play on value, and I could guarantee that blindly playing the biggest chalk on the board evey day with no handicapping has a -EV in the long run.

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    Covers uses Pinnacle closing lines, so those are what I used. And my numbers are 100% accurate. Also there was never a day where there was a tie for the highest line.

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    I don't think it's worth it anymore. I was willing to crunch the numbers to see for myself and he's unwilling to listen to our results. All he needs to do is create the spreadsheet plug in the wagers, percentages, potential wins vs losses and the end result. If that isn't the first thing you do with any strategy it's doomed to fail. It's like buying a business without seeing the financials at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Covers uses Pinnacle closing lines, so those are what I used. And my numbers are 100% accurate. Also there was never a day where there was a tie for the highest line.
    Go to covers and look at April 24th..? Explain how covers has Detriot at -167 and Red at -167?


    See you're wrong Mister. This works if you actually go to COVERS.com and use the fake calender to click on a date and scan the mls for the day.

    So. According to covers.com/mlb selection/april 24th thier was a tie.

    my system is from covers, no other place.. god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddsmaker View Post
    you didn't use covers. for example on april 7th all the games on covers didn't even have mls..?
    True, so I used Pinnacle closings since that is where covers gets their lines from.

    Quote Originally Posted by oddsmaker View Post
    Also, May 17th the highest on covers was boston at -223
    Wrong, Cubs were -236. Click date on Scores & Matchups and check off the date.


    Quote Originally Posted by oddsmaker View Post
    ... BTW I DIDNT CHECK ALL OF YOURS SO YOUR WRONG IN OTHER ONES TOO.

    So, you're not using covers like I am, hence different results.
    um, WRONG, you are just too lazy to check the data at covers right now and see that you are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddsmaker View Post
    Go to covers and look at April 24th..? Explain how covers has Detriot at -167 and Red at -167?
    And REDS AT -182. Do I need to hold your hand?

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    This is off-topic. But I wanted to say thank you to LT for your time and effort. I remember back when I had just started sports betting and I too was like this guy. I had some perfect way to get rich in one season. But you showed me how wrong I really was. I appreciate it because it saved me a lot of money and helped me learn.

    To the thread starter wither you chose to believe LT or not you too will learn and go through the steps. Hopefully you don't get scared away and lose too much too fast with bad MM.

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    I appreciate the kind word FreeFall. Now it's time for me to bang the wife and go to sleep.

    Hasta manana gents.

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    apparently this system appears very appealing..its very basic and pretty simple..but evidently this bettor isn't taking into account what happens when he loses after laying -225 to win 100 lets say for the sake of the argument...that means he would have to get three heavy ML favs in a row just to cover his first loss! I am not against heavy favs, but I would feel a lot better losing with the promise of getting some value in a game instead of loading up with the possibility of a huge loss...plus all it takes is a few losses with these heavy favs to take a significant hit from whatever profit you are making from the winners..youngsc is making a similar argument to what i am against this system...the wins may come right now but how many times have we seen the ML way off with a heavy fav based purely on past reputation instead of the game that day! One loss or more does you in so thats all I have to say about that...

    take value where you can find it, but once again I am not against heavy ML favs except when they backfire horribly and destroy the supposed "lock" of the day!!!!

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    also sure you can hit 70-75% winners but the simplistic system of betting employed here can also have you losing money even though you have a winning record!!!!

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    but to each his own whatever works

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