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    Angels/Mets

    Everyone knows who Johan Santana is and what he's accomplished during his career. I'll only mention that since being traded to Mets, his overall numbers have stayed pretty much the same while on some special occasions his most important stat has been much worse compared to his AL days. I'm talking about WHIP - a stat which shows us the amount of walks and hits pitcher surrendered over the inning. Considering Santana will be pitching on 5 days rest tonight, this just wasn't his best spot so far because his WHIP in this situation stands at 1.42 while at the same time he allowed the opponents to bat .284 vs him. His record (3-2) and especially ERA (2.43) stayed as good as ever. Another important information - Santana has posted only 1-2 record at Angels Stadium with very ugly 5.16 ERA, although he's 2-3 4.05 ERA vs Angels for his career.

    As for John Lackey, he's been next to outstanding since he joined the Angels rotation, coming back from DL. Lackey is 3-1 for the season with 1.83 ERA while going 2-0, 1.61 ERA 0.76 WHIP over his last 3 starts - all 3 won by Angels. He's been very durable as well, totalling 22.1 innings over that span. Unlike Santana, Lackey will be going on 6 days rest, where he's 2-0 with 1.23 ERA and 0.95 WHIP while limiting the opponents to only .218 BA. Also unlike Santana who's been getting around 4.5 runs per start, Angels have been averaging only 2.5 runs for Lackey but knowing his numbers along with the quality of the Angel's pen - that seems to be enough.

    Now some offensive numbers for each team. Santana is well known inside Angels clubhouse, because they've seen him pitch so many times. That especially counts for Torii Hunter, who's used to play behind him, in CF for the long time in Twins uniform. This will be the first time those two will stand against each other so it will be interesting to see who'll come on top From other Angels, Anderson has .273 BA (22AB), Matthews .286 BA (14AB), and those two have actually fared the best vs Santana, hitting cumulative 3 homers. Figgins and Guerrero are batting only .200 in 30AB against him. From the Mets current lineup, Castillo, Delgado and Easley have fared the best against Lackey, combining for .464 BA (28AB) with 2 HRs and a double. Interesting but Beltran, Anderson, Castro, Chavez and Reyes are combined 0-for-20 vs Lackey. Trot Nixon, a longtime Red Sox is also only .250 hitter vs Lackey (16AB) with a double.

    While the Mets are averaging around .240 BA .300 OBP and 3.5 RPG vs lefties lately, the Angels have been averaging around .300 BA .380 OBP and 6.0 runs per game vs southpaws, going 13-3 vs them for the season (with 7-1 at home last 8 times).

    Looking at both team's pens - Mets have only Joe Smith (15.43 ERA 2.57 WHIP L3) and Scott Schoenweis (3.86 ERA 0.43 WHIP L3) rested while their closer Billy Wagner has been used last night and has a 6.00 ERA with 2.00 WHIP over the last 3 appearances. Both Heilman (3.38 ERA 0.75 WHIP L3) and Feliciano (5.40 ERA 1.80 WHIP L3) have pitched cumulative only 1 inning last night so let's say they should available, too.

    From the Angels pen - Darren O'Day is on a 2 days rest (5.06 ERA 1.69 WHIP L3), while both Scot Shields (0.00 ERA 0.86 WHIP L3) and F-Rod (3.00 ERA 1.33 WHIP L3) are on a 1 day of rest. Shields has pitched a total of 3.2 innings over their last 8 games and his WHIP is only 0.63 while he's got 4 strikeouts over that period. Imo, those two are the most probable for being used if everything goes as planned tonight (with Lackey going 7 quality innings).

    Im on the Angels tonight -115

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    I've got Under 7 +105 GL

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    Angels -118

    Hope Mets crumble tonight their speciality.

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    Take Mets at plus money if you can still find it. I'm banking on the wake-up theory because this team is ready to have some parts traded away if they don't turn it around for Manuel. Should be close at least ... maybe.

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    LOL...Ill stick with stats over a wake up theory

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    I usually take the dog with a great pitcher like Santana. I just don't trust the Mets...LAA -115 for me.

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    Almost game time boys.....Ralley Monkeys pumped

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    SOB I got LAA -119 but I feel jipped when seeing everyone else's lines

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    gl guys
    i cant touch this
    i would do johan but id otn trust mets

    gl

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    How are you guys feeling on the under?
    Season averages show around 9 runs combined but the two pitchers are beasts with their era's.

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    i wont touch that udner

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    3-1 Angels I told u guys

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    Angels will cream the Mets. Who went for the under? Under 7?

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    I'm wary of those under 7's. I'm putting together a full stat sheet on the over/unders for the last 2 years in regular season play. If I get some free time tomorrow I'll work on it some more.

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    national league stinks

    always take the american league team at home

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    youngsc,
    What's your take on the Giants game? I have the Giants to devour the Tigers.

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    4-1 Halos lovin it.....Looks like Im going 3-0 today

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    Quote Originally Posted by j$ View Post
    4-1 Halos lovin it.....Looks like Im going 3-0 today
    You spoke to soon, don't jinz yourself


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    3-0 come back and worship me later

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    My pick is on the ML. Both teams are fair by the numbers with SF edging them out slightly. With that and clear weather I think SF is safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngsc View Post
    My pick is on the ML. Both teams are fair by the numbers with SF edging them out slightly. With that and clear weather I think SF is safe.
    That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Go Angels! Go Giants! I might have a good night rest tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilforth View Post
    That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Go Angels! Go Giants! I might have a good night rest tonight.
    Angels have the 3rd best fielding percentage so as long as they don't do something stupid that should be safe. SF is good but I would like to see them score instead of leaving these damned runners on.

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    Mets will come back in this one

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    this game is over
    angels win
    ITS DONE
    angels pen
    johan wont throw past 7th

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    We shall see just like yesterday I was right Ryan

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    this game is not coming back
    mets are no good
    win some lose some
    i got killed today but won huge yesterday

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    Go read the pen stats I posted mike.....Angels coast now

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    We shall see just like yesterday I was right Ryan
    and today youa re wrong

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    There's no coming back in this game. The Angels have it wrapped up.
    The Giants game is looking funny. 1-1 in the 6th.

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    this angels game is done
    seattle game isnt done though

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    Angels win
    SF will
    FL trying

    Whoo, all three win I go 3-0 and 1-1 on props with these three.

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    not sure on sf
    hope so though

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    There might still some drama in Seatle. But the OVER will cash in Seatle.

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    i had sea under, marlins

    horrid day
    unreal

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanXL977 View Post
    not sure on sf
    hope so though
    SF will. Let's just keep saying "they will" and then they will deliver. The Tigers know they ought not to win tonight.

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