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    Angry White Sox GM lashes back at Frank Thomas

    thomas is gonna just kill the Karma the A's have. thomas is a well known clubhouse cancer. maybe thats why ozzie set him straight once he returned off the DL last season.

    Angry White Sox GM lashes back at Frank Thomas

    By RICK GANO, AP Sports Writer
    February 26, 2006

    TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) -- Angry and disgusted with the latest comments from former slugger Frank Thomas, Chicago White Sox general manager Kenny Williams fired back Sunday, calling the two-time MVP "an idiot."

    "He's an idiot. He's selfish. That's why we don't miss him," Williams said, responding to a Thomas interview that appeared in The Daily Southtown, a newspaper in the Chicago suburb of Tinley Park, Ill.


    Since signing with the Oakland A's last month, Thomas has made it clear that he didn't appreciate the way his 16-year run with the White Sox ended, saying that chairman Jerry Reinsdorf didn't call him to tell him he wasn't coming back.

    The greatest hitter in White Sox history reiterated that point in his latest interview, touching on several subjects and adding that he and Williams didn't see eye-to-eye after Williams became GM following the 2000 season.

    At the time, Thomas was unhappy that his next-to-last deal with the White Sox contained a "diminished skills" clause. He said the White Sox should have traded him after the playoffs that season.

    He also repeated that had he known last fall the team wasn't going to bring him back -- they later gave him a $3.5 million buyout -- he wouldn't have participated in a couple of ceremonial functions during the postseason. Unable to play because of an injury, he threw out a first pitch during the playoffs. Later he was given the opportunity to address the crowd at the end of the White Sox's victory parade.

    Williams said he was most irate over Thomas' comments about Reinsdorf.

    "I've got a lot of respect for Jerry Reinsdorf, I do. But I really thought, the relationship we had over the last 16 years, he would have picked up the phone to say, `Big guy, we're moving forward. We're going somewhere different. We don't know your situation or what's going to happen.' I can live with that, I really can," Thomas said.

    "But treating me like some passing-by-player. I've got no respect for that."

    Thomas said he wasn't bitter or angry and had joined the A's with an open mind.

    But Williams was fed up that Thomas was still making remarks about his former team and the way he was treated.

    "Jerry has done everything over the course of 16 years to protect that man, to make accommodations for him, concessions for him. He loaned him money, at times, when he needed money," Williams said.

    "If he was any kind of a man, he would quit talking about things in the paper and return a phone call or come knock on someone's door. If I had the kind of problems evidently he had with me, I would go knock on his door."

    Thomas has been bothered by foot and ankle problems the last two seasons. He hit .219 with 12 homers in 105 at-bats last season. He missed the first two months while recovering from surgery on his left ankle, then broke the ankle in July, ending his season.

    When the White Sox re-signed Paul Konerko and traded for Jim Thome, Thomas' days with his only team were over. He apparently didn't see it that way. At least not at first, saying he thought he would get a restructured deal to return. He is 52 homers shy of 500 and a lifetime .307 hitter.

    "We don't miss him, by the way," Williams said. "If you go out there and ask any one of my players or staff members, we don't miss him.

    "We don't miss his attitude. We don't miss the whining. We don't miss it. Good riddance. See you later."

    Williams said he planned to express his feelings in person to Thomas when the opportunity presented itself, perhaps this spring.

    "I'm a general manager and I'm supposed to be above these things. But again, when is enough enough?" he said.

    "He brought us to this point. So, OK, you want to play this game? You've got it. You got it. He's the Oakland A's problem right now. ... He better stay out of our business. He better stay out of White Sox business."

    Manager Ozzie Guillen, a former teammate of Thomas', didn't want to get involved.

    "I won't put my nose in something above me," Guillen said. "He never mentioned my name and if you don't mention my name, I try to stay away from every part of the conversation."

    Konerko, who has been with the White Sox longer than any player on the roster after Thomas' departure, said he understood the ties that Thomas had to his former team after such a long career.

    "There are a lot of emotional things involved there," Konerko said. "Frank is his own man and can do what he wants."


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    If Frank is running his mouth I don't blame Kenny.

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    This has turned into something that I really feared would happen. Frank Thomas was the greatest hitter in White Sox history. A legend. A White Sox. It shouldn't be like this. Thomas will go into the hall of fame as a pale hose..and a bronze statue should have it's place in front of the park in the future.

    Jerry should've called Frank..probably...but Frank needs to just stop. Ken Williams is in the wrong there...he should've taken the high road with his comments. Props to Ozzie for doing exactly that.

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    the White Soxs messed this one up...you treat the guy who has been the face of your franchise like this they deeserve the criticism...shame on the white soxs!

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    presley, Williams always takes the high road, but just had enough. Frank has been flapping his jaw since he left for Oakland.

    If the Sox weren't the champs this would hardly be news, but since they are everything they do is under a microscope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusion
    If the Sox weren't the champs this would hardly be news, but since they are everything they do is under a microscope.
    it would still be news ILL.

    anytime you have a GM ripping a player like he did it's big news no mater what sport it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusion
    presley, Williams always takes the high road, but just had enough. Frank has been flapping his jaw since he left for Oakland.

    If the Sox weren't the champs this would hardly be news, but since they are everything they do is under a microscope.
    I know Ken Williams usually keeps his cool and he should have here. The whole Magglio Ordonez stuff, Scott Boras stuff, Billy Beane/book stuff...he could handle himself in those situations...why not here? I have no idea. It only gives the Sox bad p.r

    let Frank mouth off if he wants to...he's no longer a concern

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    Don't know why a GM needs to answer a degruntled former player publicly. Williams could just wait till he comes to town with the A's and make a big home coming deal out of it.

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    oakland beats the hell out of the white sox all the time out in oakland. now with thomas playing out there, that just adds more firepower to that trend to continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan
    oakland beats the hell out of the white sox all the time out in oakland. now with thomas playing out there, that just adds more firepower to that trend to continue.
    Really? How can that be since you HAVE always dogged Frank? I thought he sucked, well that's always what you have said.

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    there you go again ILL. yet another disgruntaled homer in regards to a "2 time MVP" leaving his beloved team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusion
    Really? How can that be since you HAVE always dogged Frank? I thought he sucked, well that's always what you have said.
    I will stand by this quote. I'm sure looker remembers how you always dogged him.

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    your gonna stand alone on this one. because, i recall saying that at all nor does looker because i just asked him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusion
    I will stand by this quote. I'm sure looker remembers how you always dogged him.
    I cant recall that Ill. All I know is he slams the Sox all the time.

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    see i told ya ILL

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    and you certainly weren't defending your boy when the Hall of Fame came up:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/showthread...t=frank+thomas

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    those comments doesn't mean i dogged him at all ILL. i mearly said he was a club house cancer, and i felt it would take more than those #'s to get in the HOF. which btw is the reason he signed with oakland in the first place to improve on his career stats.

    man, and they say raiders liked to twist things

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    WOW BBD??

    I am starting to wonder about you..

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    nothing to wonder about at all img. just trying to reply to the twisted way ILL was trying to make.

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    All I know is the Soxs will not beat the Ynkees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan
    there you go again ILL. yet another disgruntaled homer in regards to a "2 time MVP" leaving his beloved team.
    Certainly a "two time mvp" should have a good chance at getting in, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusion
    Certainly a "two time mvp" should have a good chance at getting in, right?

    you would think so ILL, but not a lock. the prime example of that is dale murphy, because he didn't in there.

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    I wonder who caps baseball better ILL or BBD? I have heard some
    great things..

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    We finished about the same last year im.

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    ILL was up roughly 105 units, and i was up roughly 75+ units at the all-star break when i quit betting bases. he would have had me good if he quit at that point. after everything was said and done, we both were basicly about even like he said above.

    the one you gotta watch out for this year IMG is onlooker. he only played bases for about 2.5 months and ended up winning over 50+ units.

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    onlooker I will be lookin @ u.

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