1. 04-12-08 10:55 PM #71
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    didnt say cain and lincecum are better, they have better stuff.
    again, i would take wang on my team, he is a very good pitcher
    but nothing about him puts him near the top 5
    not close
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    Quote Originally Posted by imgv94 View Post
    Reminds me of someone else on here
    who are you referring to?
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  3. 04-12-08 10:56 PM #73
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    didnt say i would take escobar over wang either
    but he does have better stuff
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    At least I know wangs a top 5 pitcher you stupid ****
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanXL977 View Post
    didnt say cain and lincecum are better, they have better stuff.
    again, i would take wang on my team, he is a very good pitcher
    but nothing about him puts him near the top 5
    not close
    is better stuff velocity to you?
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  6. 04-12-08 10:57 PM #76
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    not at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by austintx05 View Post
    who are you referring to?
    sent you on PM.. Don't wanna say on here cause then he will cry like a Bitch.
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    Alright Ryan forget your "stuff".

    name me your top 5
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    IMG it better not be me. I made thise forum.
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    Funny thread.

    Continue...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJFtheGenius View Post
    IMG it better not be me. I made thise forum.
    No way dude..

    You the man
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    MF you da man!!!
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  13. 04-12-08 11:09 PM #83
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    top 5

    johan
    peavy
    webb
    sabathia
    beckett
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    I don't agree with Sabathia. However the other four you can at least make an intellegent arguement.
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    i guess nobody is listening,i dont hate the yanks or wang. hell, my girlfriend is a chinese philly
    wang is very very good
    very good
    but he is not a top 5 pitcher. how is he better than haren or lackey? i would take wang over penny just bc of what penny does every yr post asb, and escobar get shurt, as does burnett. wang is top 15 i would say
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    i just dont see how a3.75 era with 5ks per 9ip makes someone top 5. thats just stupid to me. he gets wins bc he is a good pitcher on a great offensive winning team

    the dude isnt close to top 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanXL977 View Post
    i guess nobody is listening,i dont hate the yanks or wang. hell, my girlfriend is a chinese philly
    wang is very very good
    very good
    but he is not a top 5 pitcher. how is he better than haren or lackey? i would take wang over penny just bc of what penny does every yr post asb, and escobar get shurt, as does burnett. wang is top 15 i would say
    holy fukk u r dum b.

    top 15?

    Wang has the best groundball to flyball ratio which translates into more ground balls, double plays and just keeping the ball in from of you. Cause if the ball is behind you, then you probabaly are losing. And if you are losing then you probably have not recorded the most wins in the lat 2 years. Wang has kept the ball in front of his players, which has translated to the most wins in the last 2 years. Which includes Webb, Peavy, Santana, Haren, etc
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  18. 04-12-08 11:21 PM #88
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    how did wang do last year in the playoffs?
    he allowed like 13 runs in 5 innings if i recall
    you guys must be yanks fans
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    you go from not a top 5 to not a top 15? I would really like to see your top 15.
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    wang has a 3.75 era, same as lowe
    he is a sinkerballer, same as lowe
    there are good sinker pitchers every yr, the best are halladay, carmona, and webb

    wang isnt but a very solid number 2 starter
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    yes, he is top 15
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanXL977 View Post
    i just dont see how a3.75 era with 5ks per 9ip makes someone top 5. thats just stupid to me. he gets wins bc he is a good pitcher on a great offensive winning team

    the dude isnt close to top 5.
    you don't get it. Just cause he doesnt strkeout a lot doesn't make him a bad pitcher. It means he is more economical and can go longer cause his pitch count is less. Pitchers would rather keep the ball in play and let their infield/outfield take care of the rest.
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  23. 04-12-08 11:23 PM #93
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    find me one baseball person who would take wang over webb, or over felix hernandez, or over cc or carmona even

    they wouldnt
    you guys are wrong
    not much else to say
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  24. 04-12-08 11:24 PM #94
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    DIPSHIT
    i did not say he was a bad pitcher

    READ
    top 15 is good
    he isnt great, he isnt close to being feared.
    LEARN TO READ
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  25. 04-12-08 11:24 PM #95
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    Ryan you should write a letter to a baseball team explaining how much you understand the game. They will make you a scout.
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    Pretty much every scout would take wang over CC, Carmona and felix right now.
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  27. 04-12-08 11:25 PM #97
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    no, you are righ
    clearly wang is top 5
    you have proven it with the only statr you have, in the last 2 yrs he is top 5 in wins

    that settles it!
    you know mlb
    i am just a dummy
    you are smart
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  28. 04-12-08 11:25 PM #98
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    no they wouldnt.
    felix is way better than wang
    you just lost me there bro
    it isnt even close
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanXL977 View Post
    no they wouldnt.
    felix is way better than wang
    you just lost me there bro
    it isnt even close
    LOL how?
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  30. 04-12-08 11:28 PM #100
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    The only thing Felix has right now is potential.
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    watch them pitch i would say
    i know the world revolves around the east coast in these forums, but you are wrong
    wang is a good not great pitcher. simple as that
    same as oswalt

    zambrano is also better than wang arguably
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    felix had about the same era as wang last year, so how is that potential

    you are wrong dude
    he pitchedalmost 200 innings and had a sub 4 era in his 2nd full year
    try again
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  33. 04-12-08 11:30 PM #103
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    Lol
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  34. 04-12-08 11:31 PM #104
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    seriously
    watch baseball sometime
    unless you think watching damon field or jason giambi hit is baseball
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    Wang era was 3.7 and Felix was 3.92.

    Wang had 5 more wins

    Pitched same amount of games but more innings.
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