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    Cliff Lee -115

    must be a huge trap right??? he was plus 165 against the yankees,, now hes -115 ?

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    something smells fishy. It's -110 at 5 dimes.

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    fishy indeed... whats reallly good?

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    That seems to good to be true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duby View Post
    That seems to good to be true
    and we know what that means

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    What's fishy about it? Lee owns the Tigers, the Tigers have Bonderman throwing. The line is about right in my mind.

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    whats fishy about it???? maybe the fact that lee has been dominate lately... he was just plus 165 against the yankees, there playing the tigers today...

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillip View Post
    What's fishy about it? Lee owns the Tigers, the Tigers have Bonderman throwing. The line is about right in my mind.

    then why isn't the line -130 or more? The line is coming down towards the Tigers too. I'm not going to play it, but i wouldn't put my money on Seattle today.

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    yea normally when a player owns someone the lines higher...

    i just can't see lee throwing a 4 cg

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    i like cliff lee today to win again

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    tigers are killing the mariners this series which may be why the line is like this. Which actually gives value to lee rather than makes it "fishy".

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    I agree

    Very Fishy

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    Quote Originally Posted by broadway6 View Post


    then why isn't the line -130 or more? The line is coming down towards the Tigers too. I'm not going to play it, but i wouldn't put my money on Seattle today.
    Well the Tigers are a much better team then the Mariners, and they are at home. The Tigers have the 2nd best home record in the majors. Lee is good, but starting pitchers are not the only factor that goes into setting the lines.

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    ThIs is a chance i'm willing to take

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    Going to take the Tigers here for small play. Don't ever go big against top notch pitching

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    Tigers get the sweep.

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    my only play today...mariners...gotta back up best pitcher with runs

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    lets go cliff lee

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    seattle needs to score some runs...

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    Tigers

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    Seems like a fair line to me. Lee does own the Tigers but Mariners offense will have to score at some point. Good luck which ever way you decide to go I will pass on this game.

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    tigers

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    im leaning tigers as well

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    the line is spot on. Lee hasn't fared well in Detroit historically but has been dominant as of late. Bonderman has been good at home. Tough call but I will take my boy Lee.

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    he is 5-9 lifetime against the tigers 0-3 in his last 3 starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillip View Post
    What's fishy about it? Lee owns the Tigers, the Tigers have Bonderman throwing. The line is about right in my mind.

    Lee is 0-3 against tigers in his last 3 starts (all in 2009 season). In 20 career starts against Detroit, Lee is 5-9 with 4.76 ERA and 1.47 Whip. THAT'S NOT OWNING!

    Seattle 13-29 on the road. Detroit 27-11 at home.

    Jeremy Bonderman has a 2.41 ERA and 1.02 Whip at home this season in 41 innings. He faced Seattle earlier this year and gave up 5 hits and 1ER in 7 solid innings.

    Detroit can hit real good at home. Even if Lee pitches well, Seattle will have a hard time winning this.

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