[TPowell]

St Louis
Colarado (concerned with Hawpe and Helton's status though)
Oakland
Detroit


Like always, info or opinions on any games are welcome

[HoulihansTX]

I like Homes teams for the 4th July

Home Teams

[HoulihansTX]

I really dont like Cliff laying Chalk on the road. I dislike road chalk period.

Colorado looks to be your strongest play, Hammels is the real deal. Cain is only good at home.

[lacesout]

Like the plays, good luck!

[warriorfan707]

"Cain is only good at home".

Funny stuff.

[kidkonggolf]

I DON'T LIKE THE OAKLAND PICK...CARMONA PITCHING WELL AS OF LATE.

[kidkonggolf]

[kidkonggolf]

PHILLIES -130 easiest PLAY on BOARD for JULY 4th...I LIKE ROCKIES as well. BOL

[HoulihansTX]

"Cain is only good at home". Funny stuff.

My bad he is awesome.

1-4 last 5 on road. great guy to back on the road.

[2daBank]

looks solid as always TP.....gl

[warriorfan707]

My bad he is awesome.

1-4 last 5 on road. great guy to back on the road.

Hopefully someday you will realize that ERA and WHIP are more telling stats about the guys performance than W/L

at San Diego on May 17th: 6 IP 2 ER TOOK THE LOSS
at Oakland on May 22nd 8 IP 0 ER TOOK THE LOSS
at Cincinnati on June 8th Complete game shutout GOT THE WIN
at Toronto on June 19th 7.2 IP 3 ER TOOK THE LOSS

In those 4 starts Matt Cains record is 1-3 But his ERA is around 1.5

[HoulihansTX]

Hopefully someday you will realize that ERA and WHIP are more telling stats about the guys performance than W/L at San Diego on May 17th: 6 IP 2 ER TOOK THE LOSS at Oakland on May 22nd 8 IP 0 ER TOOK THE LOSS at Cincinnati on June 8th Complete game shutout GOT THE WIN at Toronto on June 19th 7.2 IP 3 ER TOOK THE LOSS

So the team doesnt score when he pitches?

More reasons to stay away.

[warriorfan707]

So the team doesnt score when he pitches?

More reasons to stay away.

[2daBank]

Hopefully someday you will realize that ERA and WHIP are more telling stats about the guys performance than W/L

at San Diego on May 17th: 6 IP 2 ER TOOK THE LOSS
at Oakland on May 22nd 8 IP 0 ER TOOK THE LOSS
at Cincinnati on June 8th Complete game shutout GOT THE WIN
at Toronto on June 19th 7.2 IP 3 ER TOOK THE LOSS

In those 4 starts Matt Cains record is 1-3 But his ERA is around 1.5

some day you will learn that era is a very overrated stat, not saying anything about this game i dont lean one way or the other but era isnt the best judge of a pitcher....

[No coincidences]

What do you see with Oakland, TP?

I'm not feeling that one at all.

[mvp123]

tomorrow im going to eat some hot dogs , hamburgers , and shari

[2daBank]

tomorrow im going to eat some hot dogs , hamburgers , and shari

hell i would just skip the dogs and burgers......

[warriorfan707]

some day you will learn that era is a very overrated stat, not saying anything about this game i dont lean one way or the other but era isnt the best judge of a pitcher....

ERA And Whip are the best stats to judge a pitcher that we currently have.

Trying to judge a pitchers performance based off W/L and run support is pure elementary and the most asinine thing I've read all day.

[2daBank]

ERA And Whip are the best stats to judge a pitcher that we currently have.

Trying to judge a pitchers performance based off W/L and run support is pure elementary and the most asinine thing I've read all day.

proving that you know very little about baseball capping...w/l has nothing to do with it so before you call my post asinine and put words in my mouth do your homework, all i said was era is very overrated, and if you had a clue you would know what i mean....happy 4th!!!!!!!!!

[TPowell]

Mazzaro has been pretty decent lately which is all Carmona is IMO. Even pitching matchup and Oakland is the better team obviously. Getting +120 with the better team is what you want.

[warriorfan707]

proving that you know very little about baseball capping...w/l has nothing to do with it so before you call my post asinine and put words in my mouth do your homework, all i said was era is very overrated, and if you had a clue you would know what i mean....happy 4th!!!!!!!!!

Read the friggin thread dude, you are beyond clueless and really making yourself look dumb right now. But hey happy 4th to you too.

[2daBank]

you the one who thinks era is the "best stat to measure a pitcher that we have" so id say you are clueless

[TPowell]

I guess I'll weigh in on this subject. I like to use ERA and WHIP as how I judge the pitcher. However, I use wins and losses to judge how well the team plays behind the pitcher. Pretty standard answer but just thought I'd throw that out there.

[warriorfan707]

I said ERA and WHIP. Walks and hits allowed per Innings pitched. It obviously represents how many baserunners the pitcher typically allows. And even more important is how man Earned Runs he allows.

Last I checked, whoever allows more runs loses the ballgame. If this has changed or there is a better stat to analyze a pitchers projected performance based on giving his team the best chance to win that none of us have heard of by all means please feel free to enlighten us.

[warriorfan707]

I guess I'll weigh in on this subject. I like to use ERA and WHIP as how I judge the pitcher. However, I use wins and losses to judge how well the team plays behind the pitcher. Pretty standard answer but just thought I'd throw that out there.

Of course you use ERA and WHIP to judge the pitcher. Anyone in their right mind who knows baseball does as well.

[2daBank]

Of course you use ERA and WHIP to judge the pitcher. Anyone in their right mind who knows baseball does as well.

i have no problem with era (love whip) but i like to use some metrics just to get a good feel if that era is accurate or is there luck involved and help me determine if a pitcher will continue to produce those numbers or is playing over his head.....

[texhooper]

st. louis r/l almost made my cut. i was very close to playing them. i think they have a very good shot at winning but i don't want to lay the price or the r/l, so they got nixed.

and i'm already on the rockies.

good luck to you.

[No coincidences]

Mazzaro has been pretty decent lately which is all Carmona is IMO. Even pitching matchup and Oakland is the better team obviously. Getting +120 with the better team is what you want.

Are you sure Oakland's better?

[TPowell]

final plays


St Louis
Detroit
Oakland
Colorado
Arizona

[landers781]

Played Oakland and Tigers myself for now

good luck