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    Brad Hand Clears Waivers - VERY BAD Sign For MLB Free Agency

    Normally they would have been able to trade this guy. Had 1 year/$10 million left for contract. 29 teams passed on him. Cleveland was hoping somebody would pick him up for that normally reasonable price, and instead will have to pay him a $1 million buyout.

    If a quality arm like Hand is not being picked up for just one year, I can just imagine the bloodbath that is about to face mid-tier free agents this year. Collusion will be the most popular word of the offseason.

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    Given the Phillies 2020 bullpen numbers, claiming Hand at $10 million should have been a no-brainer. They could have let Hector Neris ($7 million option) walk. The $3 million difference would have been well worth it given Hand’s superior track record.

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    Guy been one of the best bullpen pitchers in recent years, it look like we wont be seeing many big contracts next season.

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    baseball broke right now

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    Bad time to be a free agent in Mlb

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    Quote Originally Posted by stake1 View Post
    Bad time to be a free agent in Mlb
    Realmuto 'eyeing' $200 million contract



    good lucks w that

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    Realmuto 'eyeing' $200 million contract





    good lucks w that
    Agreed. The players are going to have a long winter. I can see spring training camps opening and guys settling for peanuts

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    alot of guys getting options declined too
    the owners are going to tighten up big time

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    baseball broke right now
    i guess you missed the news of the mets sale. while owners are going to tighten up baseball is definitely not broke

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    Cardinals declined their option on their starting 2b, Wong. He was around 12 million for next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Losco View Post
    alot of guys getting options declined too
    the owners are going to tighten up big time
    Too many uncertainties about fans in the stands. Owners can’t go thru another season without ticket sales. Then the unknown question, will a majority come back after what the players did?

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    cheap rays declined option on morton no surprise 15 mil that's like whole team salary right there

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    too many mediocre players making 8 figures also

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    ALL sports are in financial trouble.

    NBA figures to lose a billion dollars even by playing 20-21 season because of no fans

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    Going to be interesting to see where these players end up and for how much money:

    Bauer
    Nellie Cruz
    Lemahieu
    Springer
    Stroman
    Ozuna
    Semien
    Brantley

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    If the Angels can’t get some decent pitching this year I am done with them

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    Lester a free agent now

    ERA in the 5's this past season

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    If the Angels can’t get some decent pitching this year I am done with them
    Another underrated player gone from there: Simmons. Great glove, solid player. Rumors are Phillies

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevek173 View Post
    Lester a free agent now

    ERA in the 5's this past season
    think he will have to take a discount , cubs got some really bad contracts, what to do with heywards and kris bryant will become a free agent next season he will want a lot but his numbers dont' show it

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    Yup. BIG discount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevek173 View Post
    Yup. BIG discount.
    manny machado and bryce harper lucked out, u wont' see any of those contracts coming up

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    Agreed.

    Harper sucks a dick for what he's getting paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevek173 View Post
    Agreed.

    Harper sucks a dick for what he's getting paid.
    yah he's terrible, was so glad nats won it all without him

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    Did you see him in the playoffs especially his last outing? He was struggling.

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    Tough situation all around. I would say some players would probably settle for 1 year contracts and retry the market the following year, but there might be a strike in 2022 unless they can iron out a deal with the owners. Players are in a bad situation all the way around.

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    Trea Turner deserves a huge raise.

    Silver Slugger awards announced Thursday. Gonna be funny to see someone other than Trea Turner win for NL SS. Impossible to pick another choice, but he gets zero credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    ALL sports are in financial trouble.

    NBA figures to lose a billion dollars even by playing 20-21 season because of no fans

    Thats not true. They will lose a billion in revenue, not LOSE 1 billion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    yah he's terrible, was so glad nats won it all without him
    Yeah hopefully he dies real soon

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    Too much uncertainty this offseason. Star players will still get paid if they want a longer deal, or they can come down in number years and bet on themselves when the market is back to normal. Mediocre players are going to have a more difficult time getting dollar amounts they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    cheap rays declined option on morton no surprise 15 mil that's like whole team salary right there
    Charlie Morton “wasn’t surprised” that the Rays declined to exercise their $15MM club option on his services, but the veteran right-hander told Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times that the team’s decision “doesn’t mean we won’t try to work something out. If there’s mutual interest, the next step is gauging what that looks like.” Rays GM Erik Neander indicated yesterday that the team indeed hoped to bring Morton back for a third season. If an acceptable deal can’t be worked out with the Rays or another club, Morton reiterated to Topkin that he’ll gauge whether he wants to keep playing, weighing such “typical factors” as his health, playing for a contender, and “does it make sense financially and geographically?”

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    Going to see almost exclusively cheap 1 year deals.

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    His cousin Brian Foot is also a free agend. Not a good sign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    Tough situation all around. I would say some players would probably settle for 1 year contracts and retry the market the following year, but there might be a strike in 2022 unless they can iron out a deal with the owners. Players are in a bad situation all the way around.
    Think that’s how Bauer wants to do his next deal. But it’s going to be a big number

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    Brad Hand was available to every team two and a half months ago for $10M and everybody passed. And then he signed for $10.5M with the Nationals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    His cousin Brian Foot is also a free agend. Not a good sign.

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