1. 03-19-19 04:29 PM #36
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    i cringe at all these contracts but if anyone is worth it, trout is.

    no idea why baseball gives 10 year contracts to erratic 28 year olds (this is not trout)........ i think 5 year contract, at a significantly higher salary per year, works better for everyone.

    has anyone walked away from later years of huge contract? i'm guessing there have been buyouts.

    will trout have never done arbitration or free agency? pretty sure this is the new baseball model. arguably bad for the big market teams but of course other teams can dump their big salaries on those teams and they will still get good players. not sure they'll get the best players in their prime though (note: boston and nyy have great at developing players too)
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  2. 03-19-19 04:30 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    trout cannot even get in playoffs
    this is baseball, not basketball
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  3. 03-19-19 04:34 PM #38
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    some serious cash
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  4. 03-19-19 04:47 PM #39
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    Think about this

    Ronaldo turned down 105 million a year contract in China a couple years back
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  5. 03-19-19 05:08 PM #40
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    I think baseball will have a drop in attendance and leadership like the NFL this year.
    People are broke, I dont see sustaining revenue for such a long season
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  6. 03-19-19 05:53 PM #41
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    ehhhh

    By the end of that contract top salaries will be close to 100 million YEARLY.
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  7. 03-19-19 06:00 PM #42
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    If you remember, the last extension they gave Trout was below market value and a bit of a hometown discount. Averaged out over the life of the contract, he's a bargain.
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    Worth every penny
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  9. 03-19-19 06:27 PM #44
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    i'm sure the yanks would gladly pay him $100MM per year if they could and there weren't other financial implications.

    the 12 years is what stands out but it's way way better than paying harper for 13 years
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    Mother fukker is making $68 per minute for the next 12 years.

    Every single minute, even when he is not working/playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    Worth every penny
    is he? checked his stats and while he's consistently good averaging 30 hr's, 307 lifetime ba. less than 100 rbi's a year, appears to be an average fielder and has average speed. don't give me that WAR crap that no one can explain or even know how it is determined. his teams struggle to win 85 games most years and no one on the east coast ever sees him play. why is he so heralded as the best player to ever don spikes. granted he's good but .340 40 130 are the productive numbers i'd want to see for that much money. he isn't even close.
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    It works out to $219,393 per game.
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    I bet he has a big dick too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unusialsusp5 View Post
    is he? checked his stats and while he's consistently good averaging 30 hr's, 307 lifetime ba. less than 100 rbi's a year, appears to be an average fielder and has average speed. don't give me that WAR crap that no one can explain or even know how it is determined. his teams struggle to win 85 games most years and no one on the east coast ever sees him play. why is he so heralded as the best player to ever don spikes. granted he's good but .340 40 130 are the productive numbers i'd want to see for that much money. he isn't even close.
    exactly I thought his stats were better I guess I misremembered. quite retarded contract like some others he's just one guy clearly shows winning isnt the objective filling seats is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside Magick View Post
    Think about this

    Ronaldo turned down 105 million a year contract in China a couple years back
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    WOW. Didn't know ballerinas were offered that much cash.
    Amazing.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    exactly I thought his stats were better I guess I misremembered. quite retarded contract like some others he's just one guy clearly shows winning isnt the necessity filling seats is.
    just compare his stats with the first 8 years of albert pujols's. trout's lack of doubles stands out and all his stats pale in comparison to albert's. gets way too much credit for the walks he receives which inflates his on base pct. dramatically. he's solid and good but it appears the club has enough revenue flow to overpay him so they did.
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    Statistic Description: Wins Above Replacement A single number that presents the number of wins the player added to the team above what a replacement player (think AAA or AAAA) would add. Scale for a single-season: 8+ MVP Quality, 5+ All-Star Quality, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Reserve, < 0 Replacement Level Developed by Sean Smith of BaseballProjection.com
    Note that seasons prior to 1876 are not included in single-season marks, but are included in career marks.
    + - Indicates Hall of Famer. Bold indicates active player. * - bats left-handed, # - bats both, else - bats right, ? - unknown.




    Rank Player (yrs, age) Wins Above Replacement Bats/Throws
    1. Babe Ruth+ (22) 182.5 L
    2. Cy Young+ (22) 168.0 R
    3. Walter Johnson+ (21) 165.2 R
    4. Barry Bonds (22) 162.8 L
    5. Willie Mays+ (22) 156.4 R
    6. Ty Cobb+ (24) 151.1 L
    7. Hank Aaron+ (23) 143.0 R
    8. Roger Clemens (24) 139.6 R
    9. Tris Speaker+ (22) 134.1 L
    10. Honus Wagner+ (21) 130.8 R
    11. Stan Musial+ (22) 128.2 L
    12. Rogers Hornsby+ (23) 127.0 R
    13. Eddie Collins+ (25) 124.0 L
    14. Ted Williams+ (19) 123.1 L
    15. Pete Alexander+ (20) 120.2 R
    16. Alex Rodriguez (22) 117.8 R
    17. Kid Nichols+ (15) 116.1 B
    18. Lou Gehrig+ (17) 112.4 L
    19. Rickey Henderson+ (25) 111.2 R
    20. Mickey Mantle+ (18) 110.3 B
    21. Tom Seaver+ (20) 110.1 R
    22. Mel Ott+ (22) 107.8 L
    23. Nap Lajoie+ (21) 107.4 R
    24. Frank Robinson+ (21) 107.3 R
    25. Mike Schmidt+ (18) 106.8 R
    26. Greg Maddux+ (23) 106.7 R
    27. Lefty Grove+ (17) 106.1 L
    28. Christy Mathewson+ (17) 104.0 R
    29. Randy Johnson+ (22) 101.1 R
    30. Joe Morgan+ (22) 100.6 L
    31. Albert Pujols (18, 38) 100.0 R
    32. Warren Spahn+ (21) 99.9 L
    33. Jimmie Foxx+ (20) 97.0 R
    34. Eddie Mathews+ (17) 96.6 L
    35. Carl Yastrzemski+ (23) 96.4 L
    36. Phil Niekro+ (24) 96.2 R
    37. Cal Ripken+ (21) 95.9 R
    38. Adrian Beltre (21) 95.7 R
    39. Bert Blyleven+ (22) 95.0 R
    40. Roberto Clemente+ (18) 94.5 R
    41. Cap Anson+ (27) 94.1 R
    42. Al Kaline+ (22) 92.8 R
    43. Eddie Plank+ (17) 91.5 L
    44. Wade Boggs+ (18) 91.4 L
    45. Steve Carlton+ (24) 90.5 L
    46. Gaylord Perry+ (22) 90.4 R
    47. Bob Gibson+ (17) 89.4 R
    48. George Brett+ (21) 88.7 L
    49. Tim Keefe+ (14) 86.5 R
    50. Robin Roberts+ (19) 86.0 B
    Rank Player (yrs, age) Wins Above Replacement Bats/Throws
    51. Chipper Jones+ (19) 85.2 B
    52. Fergie Jenkins+ (19) 84.4 R
    53. Roger Connor+ (18) 84.3 B
    George Davis+ (20) 84.3 B
    55. John Clarkson+ (12) 84.0 R
    Pedro Martinez+ (18) 84.0 R
    57. Ken Griffey+ (22) 83.8 L
    58. Mike Mussina+ (18) 83.0 L
    59. Nolan Ryan+ (27) 81.8 R
    60. Rod Carew+ (19) 81.3 L
    61. Tom Glavine+ (22) 80.8 L
    62. Charlie Gehringer+ (19) 80.7 L
    63. Jeff Bagwell+ (15) 79.9 R
    64. Pete Rose (24) 79.7 B
    65. Curt Schilling (20) 79.6 R
    66. Dan Brouthers+ (19) 78.7 L
    67. Brooks Robinson+ (23) 78.4 R
    68. Joe DiMaggio+ (13) 78.1 R
    69. Robin Yount+ (20) 77.3 R
    70. Ozzie Smith+ (19) 76.9 B
    71. Bobby Wallace+ (25) 76.4 R
    72. Jim McCormick (10) 76.2 R
    73. Paul Molitor+ (21) 75.7 R
    74. Bill Dahlen (21) 75.4 R
    75. Old Hoss Radbourn+ (12) 75.3 R
    76. Johnny Bench+ (17) 75.2 R
    Sam Crawford+ (19) 75.2 L
    78. Lou Whitaker (19) 75.1 L
    79. Luke Appling+ (20) 74.4 R
    80. Reggie Jackson+ (21) 74.0 L
    81. Frank Thomas+ (19) 73.9 R
    82. Pud Galvin+ (15) 73.5 R
    83. Jim Thome+ (22) 72.9 L
    Arky Vaughan+ (14) 72.9 L
    85. Paul Waner+ (20) 72.8 L
    86. Larry Walker (17) 72.7 L
    87. Derek Jeter (20) 72.4 R
    88. Harry Heilmann+ (17) 72.2 R
    89. Rafael Palmeiro (20) 71.9 L
    90. Ted Lyons+ (21) 71.5 B
    91. Bobby Grich (17) 71.1 R
    92. Johnny Mize+ (15) 70.9 L
    93. Alan Trammell+ (20) 70.7 R
    94. Ron Santo+ (15) 70.5 R
    95. Frankie Frisch+ (19) 70.4 B
    Barry Larkin+ (19) 70.4 R
    97. Scott Rolen (17) 70.2 R
    98. Gary Carter+ (19) 70.1 R
    99. Carlos Beltran (20) 69.8 B
    100. Ed Delahanty+ (16) 69.7 R
    Rank Player (yrs, age) Wins Above Replacement Bats/Throws
    Rick Reuschel (19) 69.7 R
    102. Miguel Cabrera (16, 35) 69.4 R
    Tim Raines+ (23) 69.4 B
    Manny Ramirez (19) 69.4 R
    105. Robinson Cano (14, 35) 69.2 L
    Tony Gwynn+ (20) 69.2 L
    107. John Smoltz+ (21) 69.1 R
    108. Jim Palmer+ (19) 68.9 R
    109. Amos Rusie+ (10) 68.8 R
    Al Simmons+ (20) 68.8 R
    111. Eddie Murray+ (21) 68.7 B
    Ivan Rodriguez+ (21) 68.7 R
    Red Ruffing+ (22) 68.7 R
    114. Carlton Fisk+ (24) 68.5 R
    115. Carl Hubbell+ (16) 68.4 R
    Edgar Martinez+ (18) 68.4 R
    117. Kenny Lofton (17) 68.3 L
    118. Kevin Brown (19) 68.0 R
    Graig Nettles (22) 68.0 L
    Ryne Sandberg+ (16) 68.0 R
    121. Fred Clarke+ (21) 67.9 L
    122. Ernie Banks+ (19) 67.5 R
    123. Don Drysdale+ (14) 67.2 R
    124. Roberto Alomar+ (17) 67.1 B
    Dwight Evans (20) 67.1 R
    126. Don Sutton+ (23) 67.0 R
    127. Luis Tiant (19) 66.5 R
    128. Joe Cronin+ (20) 66.4 R
    129. Buddy Bell (18) 66.3 R
    Pee Wee Reese+ (16) 66.3 R
    Duke Snider+ (18) 66.3 L
    132. Goose Goslin+ (18) 66.1 L
    133. Ed Walsh+ (14) 66.0 R
    134. Willie Randolph (18) 65.9 R
    135. Zack Greinke (15, 34) 65.7 R
    Tony Mullane (13) 65.7 B
    137. Craig Biggio+ (20) 65.5 R
    138. Chase Utley (16) 65.4 L
    139. Red Faber+ (20) 65.0 B
    140. Andre Dawson+ (21) 64.8 R
    141. Clayton Kershaw (11, 30) 64.6 L
    Reggie Smith (17) 64.6 B
    143. Willie McCovey+ (22) 64.5 L
    144. Roy Halladay+ (16) 64.3 R

    		Mike Trout (8, 26) 64.3 R
    146. Dave Winfield+ (22) 64.2 R
    147. Richie Ashburn+ (15) 63.9 L
    Bob Feller+ (18) 63.9 R
    149. Billy Williams+ (18) 63.7 L
    Vic Willis+ (13) 63.7 R
    Rank Player (yrs, age) Wins Above Replacement Bats/Throws
    151. Billy Hamilton+ (14) 63.4 L
    Justin Verlander (14, 35) 63.4 R
    153. Hal Newhouser+ (17) 63.3 L
    154. Lou Boudreau+ (15) 63.0 R
    Juan Marichal+ (16) 63.0 R
    156. Home Run Baker+ (13) 62.8 L
    Ken Boyer (15) 62.8 R
    Andruw Jones (17) 62.8 R
    Mickey Welch+ (13) 62.8 R
    160. CC Sabathia (18, 37) 62.7 L
    161. David Cone (17) 62.4 L
    Dennis Eckersley+ (24) 62.4 R
    163. John Ward+ (17) 62.3 L
    164. Shoeless Joe Jackson (13) 62.2 L
    Mark McGwire (16) 62.2 R
    166. Tommy John (26) 62.0 R
    167. Jack Glasscock (17) 61.6 R
    168. Sal Bando (16) 61.5 R
    169. Clark Griffith+ (21) 61.4 R
    Jackie Robinson+ (10) 61.4 R
    171. Jake Beckley+ (20) 61.3 L
    Charlie Buffinton (11) 61.3 R
    173. Wes Ferrell (15) 61.2 R
    Todd Helton (17) 61.2 L
    175. Early Wynn+ (23) 61.1 B
    176. Tommy Bond (10) 60.9 R
    177. Willie Davis (18) 60.7 L
    178. Gary Sheffield (22) 60.5 R
    179. Jim Edmonds (17) 60.4 L
    Keith Hernandez (17) 60.4 L
    Harmon Killebrew+ (22) 60.4 R
    182. Stan Coveleski+ (14) 60.3 R
    Andy Pettitte (18) 60.3 L
    Al Spalding+ (8) 60.3 R
    185. Zack Wheat+ (19) 60.2 L
    186. Dazzy Vance+ (16) 60.1 R
    187. Bobby Abreu (18) 60.0 L
    188. Jesse Burkett+ (16) 59.7 L
    189. Jim Bunning+ (17) 59.6 R
    Mike Piazza+ (16) 59.6 R
    191. Yogi Berra+ (19) 59.4 L
    Vladimir Guerrero+ (16) 59.4 R
    193. Mark Buehrle (16) 59.3 L
    Sherry Magee (16) 59.3 R
    Ichiro Suzuki (18, 44) 59.3 L
    196. Bret Saberhagen (16) 59.0 R
    197. Urban Shocker (13) 58.9 R
    198. Darrell Evans (21) 58.8 L
    Joey Votto (12, 34) 58.8 L
    200. Dick Allen (15) 58.7 R
    Rank Player (yrs, age) Wins Above Replacement Bats/Throws
    Eddie Cicotte (14) 58.7 B
    202. Sammy Sosa (18) 58.6 R
    203. Bob Caruthers (10) 58.5 L
    204. Mordecai Brown+ (14) 58.3 B
    Rube Waddell+ (13) 58.3 R
    206. Tim Hudson (17) 58.2 R
    John Olerud (17) 58.2 L
    208. Chuck Finley (17) 58.1 L
    209. Bobby Bonds (14) 57.9 R
    210. Hank Greenberg+ (13) 57.6 R
    Joe McGinnity+ (10) 57.6 R
    Frank Tanana (21) 57.6 L
    Joe Torre+ (18) 57.6 R
    214. Willie Stargell+ (21) 57.5 L
    215. Bob Johnson (13) 57.3 R
    Ian Kinsler (13, 36) 57.3 R
    217. Joe Gordon+ (11) 57.2 R
    Jack Quinn (23) 57.2 R
    219. Whitey Ford+ (16) 56.9 L
    220. Dave Stieb (16) 56.7 R
    221. Will Clark (15) 56.5 L
    Jack Powell (16) 56.5 R
    223. Johnny Damon (18) 56.4 L
    Cole Hamels (13, 34) 56.4 L
    225. Orel Hershiser (18) 56.3 R
    George Sisler+ (15) 56.3 L
    227. Mariano Rivera+ (19) 56.2 R
    228. Robin Ventura (16) 56.1 L
    229. Jim Whitney (10) 56.0 L
    230. Jim Wynn (15) 55.9 R
    231. Luis Aparicio+ (18) 55.8 R
    Bill Dickey+ (17) 55.8 L
    233. Chet Lemon (16) 55.6 R
    Joe Medwick+ (17) 55.6 R
    235. Jeff Kent (17) 55.4 R
    Eppa Rixey+ (21) 55.4 R
    237. David Ortiz (20) 55.3 L
    Enos Slaughter+ (19) 55.3 L
    239. Bobby Mathews (15) 55.1 R
    Joe Mauer (15) 55.1 L
    241. Billy Herman+ (15) 54.8 R
    George Uhle (17) 54.8 R
    243. Kevin Appier (16) 54.7 R
    244. Max Scherzer (11, 33) 54.5 R
    245. Jose Cruz (19) 54.4 L
    246. Vada Pinson (18) 54.3 L
    247. Bill Terry+ (14) 54.2 L
    248. Willie Keeler+ (19) 54.1 L
    249. Max Carey+ (20) 54.0 B
    Tony Perez+ (23) 54.0 R


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    Quote Originally Posted by unusialsusp5 View Post
    just compare his stats with the first 8 years of albert pujols's. trout's lack of doubles stands out and all his stats pale in comparison to albert's. gets way too much credit for the walks he receives which inflates his on base pct. dramatically. he's solid and good but it appears the club has enough revenue flow to overpay him so they did.
    when u listed those numbers only person I thought of was pujols he had video game numbers for about 10 years. angels games come on too late for east coasters they knocks out quite a bit of ratings right there
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    I hope when the democrats win the next election they tax him 99%
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    Angels f***** up

    The Angels just cursed themselves
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    I can't stand trout one of the worst tasting commonly consumed fish
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    Give me two number 1 starters for that money -
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  23. 03-19-19 09:33 PM #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikid2groove415 View Post
    Give me two number 1 starters for that money -
    Its a dumb argument to say Trout is getting overpaid here, Kershaw alone makes nearly 35 million per, Trout is far more valuable than every player making close to what he gets.
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    Hay darkie, you are ignorant as f*** and have NO IDEA what lucifer has in store for you. That said, gopd move by Trout. Another bad deal by the Angels my lord Pujols still on the books for 2 more years. Trout is 20% of their payroll and an everyday player. That could be scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unusialsusp5 View Post
    is he? checked his stats and while he's consistently good averaging 30 hr's, 307 lifetime ba. less than 100 rbi's a year, appears to be an average fielder and has average speed. don't give me that WAR crap that no one can explain or even know how it is determined. his teams struggle to win 85 games most years and no one on the east coast ever sees him play. why is he so heralded as the best player to ever don spikes. granted he's good but .340 40 130 are the productive numbers i'd want to see for that much money. he isn't even close.
    Just because you dont understand WAR doesnt mean its crap lol Its probably the best statistic to measure a players impact in ANY sport.
    Id rather have a guy .307/30/110 who walks 140 times a year. Trout is an above average defender and a significantly above average base runner. Pretty remarkable consdering his body type. Last year his OPS approached 1100 to go along with 191 WRC+.
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    Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman analyze Mike Trout's record-smashing deal with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim for 12 years, worth over $430 million. Stephen A. and Max not only agree that Trout is worth the money, but he even has a chance to go down as the greatest player in MLB history.



    Stephen A. Smith, Jeff Passan, Michael Wilbon and more all chime in after the news broke that Los Angeles Angels secured Mike Trout for a giant 12-year, $430 million deal.


    Mike Trout says the commitment from the Los Angeles Angels meant a lot to him and played a big role in his decision. Trout says living on the east coast played a role in his decision but in the end staying in California was best for him and his family. Trout says it was cool to think about the possibility of playing for the Philadelphia Phillies but he is happy to be an Angel for life. Trout expects ups and downs throughout the next 12 years but in the end the goal is championships.
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    Mike Trout joins SportsCenter with Scott Van Pelt to talk about; his new, long-term deal with the Los Angeles Angels, Bryce Harper and Manny Machado’s moves in the offseason, his decision to retire with the Angels instead of moving home to cap off his career on the East coast, dealing with the weight of a high-profile, max contract and if he feels pressure to prove his worth.

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