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    Saturday foreshadowing

    Lots of tremendous pitching matchups in pitcher friendly ballparks on saturday.

    though I think first five unders are the play as i don't trust hardly any teams bullpen these days.

    Only totals I could play under with any confidence would be keuchel vs gray and Kershaw vs Cole given those ballparks and propensity for those 4 guys to pitch deep into ball games.

    4pm Lester vs vogelsong is intersting as Giants problem with lefties is well known. Vogelsong managed to kill my bet against Atlanta 2 nights ago and now he's starting on the road where he sucks agst a hot cubs team but line seems like giants. Gonna need lester to stretch out some innnings tomorrow no matter what since they pulled hammels in the 4th last night.
    Liking Cubs ff, Giants 2nd half? Giants ml/rl?

    JDLR vs Zimmerman in DC. Zimmerman just got raked on prime time TV Sunday night so this is a nice bounce back spot agst a Colorado team who just traded away it's best piece in Tulowitski. Safe to say Rockies are coasting to the finish line at this point. JDLR is solid but not same guy on road & lefty, nats lineup is just loaded with right handed bats now. Super bonus: half of nats lineup owns JDLR. Nats are pretty healthy favorite at -150 so Vegas knows what's up and they might just be worth the expensive ticket.total at 7.5 seems low for a team that's prolly gonna get raped and got a dreadful pen. Nats tt ov?

    Jose fernandez and tehran. This one has potential to be a 1-0 type game. Tehran totally different pitcher at home and if you haven't noticed his xFIP has been on a nice downslop each month 4-3-2 (Aug). Likely looking at a seriously juiced ff under 3 here but Marlins tt under 3 could hold some value in what will suredly be one overvalued pitcher vs undervalued. Add to it tehran owns a few marlins already. Liking the braves ff +0.5, ml or +rl?

    Joe Kelly. Nuff said to warrant a look at detroit tt over. There are rare occasions when Kelly holds a team to 2-3 runs but always against pedestrian offenses, which, ain't the case here against detroit. ff over might be worth a look here too. I wouldn't trust a game total over as Norris is looking to make the most out of his opportunity to become a fixture in Tigers rotation and Redsox playing like they r back on the curse. I could live with a detroit ff -0.5 at +ev as well. Never trust detroit bullpen as a ml fave, ever.

    Dickey vs Eovaldi. I think we have a vastly over-estimated total at 9.5 here as Dickey has certainly rounded into form lately and I think we all know how much he enjoys pitching in the New York winds. he's owned nyy thrice this year already and nyy just got owned by a more inferior bosox knuckler two days ago. Eovaldi certainly a trustworthy guy for 5 or 6 innings, esp at home. He has been a little banged up so got a couple extra days of rest equals fresh 99mph fastball. Blue Jays for all the love they've gotten recently aren't so tough on the road and against a hard throwing righty most of the lineup has had a limited amount of at bats agst. Definitely under on the ff and prolly safer on the full gm under 9-9.5

    Pelfrey and Cody Anderson meet up for what looks like a shoot out on paper. Minny likely to become a heavy public dog here as Cody "nobody" Anderson laying -158 will get laughed at. Minny however just not scoring runs on the road and really big unknown with how they will hit Anderson. Pelfrey is pretty much a well known gas bag but has actually pitched well against Cleveland since they suck offensively. I ain't touching this one unless something sharp comes on cleveland.

    Danks vs Volquez. I cant believe im saying this but Danks has been one of the most reliable pitchers since July. He owns the entire KC lineup and is 9-1 agst kc lifetime going back to 2007. Might not sound like a big deal with all the turnover of players but current Royals are batting 0.185 vs Danks in +200 at bats. Cain, escobar, zobrist, Perez all hitting < 0.185 vs danks. Only Perez has homered off danks. Danks is 4-1 at Kauffman but took his 1st loss to Volquez in april. Situationally a rather bad spot here for kc as they came home yest off a 10 game road trip and the honey due list is prolly rather daunting and distracting. Liking the Road doggie and under.

    Degrom vs Odorizzi. Pretty hard to go agst Mets right now with anybody pitching, let alone Degrom who seems to be their legit ace. I suppose Odorizzi might make a case to back as a big home dog but I'd rather see some rather sharp movement to bite. Love me some ff under here, and likely following the steam so prolly Mets ml but mets bullpen showing some signs of fatigue lately.

    Lastly, weather forecast looks clear across the country tomorrow. Salami prolly gonna be set lower than we usually see it so may have some value on the over if a bullpen or two can manage to implode.

    Never did this much extensive of write ups but I guess we'll see how things pan out feels nice to get the thoughts down on paper but I like results better.
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    what?

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    Trob-- you mention San Fran's troubles against lefties where they are 15-9 against lefties this year. They've beat the best lefty in baseball twice.

    Like your take on Jays/yanks and white sox as well.

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    Cliffs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aznfirebat View Post
    what?
    I hope your math is better than your reading comprehension bruh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazworm91 View Post
    Trob-- you mention San Fran's troubles against lefties where they are 15-9 against lefties this year. They've beat the best lefty in baseball twice.

    Like your take on Jays/yanks and white sox as well.
    You r right, Giants r +8units vs lefties! but, If you look at the numbers they have gotten fortunate and actually hitting worse against lefties, esp on the road. Biggest example is Complete game shut out by Jon Niese in New York rather recently. Though a limited sample size of 9 at bats, Pence hitting 0.111 vs Lester and Posey 0.250. I do like San Fran full game though based on the amount of work Cubs bullpen had to put in last night. Not sure I could back vogelsong either after his showing the other night.

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    I meant Friday foreshadowing .pretty sure I'll get a smart ass comment anyway though
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    Quote Originally Posted by trobin31 View Post
    Lots of tremendous pitching matchups in pitcher friendly ballparks on saturday.

    though I think first five unders are the play as i don't trust hardly any teams bullpen these days.

    Only totals I could play under with any confidence would be keuchel vs gray and Kershaw vs Cole given those ballparks and propensity for those 4 guys to pitch deep into ball games.

    4pm Lester vs vogelsong is intersting as Giants problem with lefties is well known. Vogelsong managed to kill my bet against Atlanta 2 nights ago and now he's starting on the road where he sucks agst a hot cubs team but line seems like giants. Gonna need lester to stretch out some innnings tomorrow no matter what since they pulled hammels in the 4th last night.
    Liking Cubs ff, Giants 2nd half? Giants ml/rl?

    JDLR vs Zimmerman in DC. Zimmerman just got raked on prime time TV Sunday night so this is a nice bounce back spot agst a Colorado team who just traded away it's best piece in Tulowitski. Safe to say Rockies are coasting to the finish line at this point. JDLR is solid but not same guy on road & lefty, nats lineup is just loaded with right handed bats now. Super bonus: half of nats lineup owns JDLR. Nats are pretty healthy favorite at -150 so Vegas knows what's up and they might just be worth the expensive ticket.total at 7.5 seems low for a team that's prolly gonna get raped and got a dreadful pen. Nats tt ov?

    Jose fernandez and tehran. This one has potential to be a 1-0 type game. Tehran totally different pitcher at home and if you haven't noticed his xFIP has been on a nice downslop each month 4-3-2 (Aug). Likely looking at a seriously juiced ff under 3 here but Marlins tt under 3 could hold some value in what will suredly be one overvalued pitcher vs undervalued. Add to it tehran owns a few marlins already. Liking the braves ff +0.5, ml or +rl?

    Joe Kelly. Nuff said to warrant a look at detroit tt over. There are rare occasions when Kelly holds a team to 2-3 runs but always against pedestrian offenses, which, ain't the case here against detroit. ff over might be worth a look here too. I wouldn't trust a game total over as Norris is looking to make the most out of his opportunity to become a fixture in Tigers rotation and Redsox playing like they r back on the curse. I could live with a detroit ff -0.5 at +ev as well. Never trust detroit bullpen as a ml fave, ever.

    Dickey vs Eovaldi. I think we have a vastly over-estimated total at 9.5 here as Dickey has certainly rounded into form lately and I think we all know how much he enjoys pitching in the New York winds. he's owned nyy thrice this year already and nyy just got owned by a more inferior bosox knuckler two days ago. Eovaldi certainly a trustworthy guy for 5 or 6 innings, esp at home. He has been a little banged up so got a couple extra days of rest equals fresh 99mph fastball. Blue Jays for all the love they've gotten recently aren't so tough on the road and against a hard throwing righty most of the lineup has had a limited amount of at bats agst. Definitely under on the ff and prolly safer on the full gm under 9-9.5

    Pelfrey and Cody Anderson meet up for what looks like a shoot out on paper. Minny likely to become a heavy public dog here as Cody "nobody" Anderson laying -158 will get laughed at. Minny however just not scoring runs on the road and really big unknown with how they will hit Anderson. Pelfrey is pretty much a well known gas bag but has actually pitched well against Cleveland since they suck offensively. I ain't touching this one unless something sharp comes on cleveland.

    Danks vs Volquez. I cant believe im saying this but Danks has been one of the most reliable pitchers since July. He owns the entire KC lineup and is 9-1 agst kc lifetime going back to 2007. Might not sound like a big deal with all the turnover of players but current Royals are batting 0.185 vs Danks in +200 at bats. Cain, escobar, zobrist, Perez all hitting < 0.185 vs danks. Only Perez has homered off danks. Danks is 4-1 at Kauffman but took his 1st loss to Volquez in april. Situationally a rather bad spot here for kc as they came home yest off a 10 game road trip and the honey due list is prolly rather daunting and distracting. Liking the Road doggie and under.

    Degrom vs Odorizzi. Pretty hard to go agst Mets right now with anybody pitching, let alone Degrom who seems to be their legit ace. I suppose Odorizzi might make a case to back as a big home dog but I'd rather see some rather sharp movement to bite. Love me some ff under here, and likely following the steam so prolly Mets ml but mets bullpen showing some signs of fatigue lately.

    Lastly, weather forecast looks clear across the country tomorrow. Salami prolly gonna be set lower than we usually see it so may have some value on the over if a bullpen or two can manage to implode.

    Never did this much extensive of write ups but I guess we'll see how things pan out feels nice to get the thoughts down on paper but I like results better.

    Great thread man.

    Other posters take notes

    this is how u beat the bookie

    love when posters give write-ups

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    Quote Originally Posted by trobin31 View Post
    I meant Friday foreshadowing .pretty sure I'll get a smart ass comment anyway though
    Oh damn

    i am a bit less impressed now that the games are today

    i was like dayum.... Homeboy say he already got today's card in the bag he already planning for tomorrow

    If u want to make a living as a caper u gotta stay 1 step ahead of the bookie man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Great thread man.

    Other posters take notes

    this is how u beat the bookie

    love when posters give write-ups
    Yeah Great write up, to bad all those guys are pitching FRIDAY not Saturday.

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    Blue jays /Yankees u9
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    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post
    Yeah Great write up, to bad all those guys are pitching FRIDAY not Saturday.
    Lol, see post #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by trobin31 View Post
    Lol, see post #7
    I saw it after I posted. LOL. Bear loves large writeups, doesn't care about winning, just reading these "War & Peace" things. GL tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post

    Oh damn

    i am a bit less impressed now that the games are today

    i was like dayum.... Homeboy say he already got today's card in the bag he already planning for tomorrow

    If u want to make a living as a caper u gotta stay 1 step ahead of the bookie man

    Bear I got my first futures play in the nfl section with write up, Redskins u6.5 wins.

    Is that far enough ahead ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 44 Mag View Post

    I saw it after I posted. LOL. Bear loves large writeups, doesn't care about winning, just reading these "War & Peace" things. GL tonight.
    I'm not big on long write ups either unless its broken up into different games as I've done. I wouldn't expect this from me for a very long time. I had some time on my hands. Hopefully it generates results or I'll have settle for making a bear's day.

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    Tigers ff -0.5 +105 (betonline)
    Redsox/Tigers ff o4.5 -130 (5dimes)

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    Tigers ff -0.5 +105 (betonline)
    Redsox/Tigers ff o4.5 -130 (5dimes)

    Blue jays /Yankees u9*
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    Parlaying under in all 15 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn View Post
    Parlaying under in all 15 games.
    same.

    just debating how much to put on it.

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    That's a sick parlay, odds must be astronomical.


    Chicago Cubs ff -½ -120 (5dimes)
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    Phillies/Padres o6.5 -120 (5dimes)
    Chicago Cubs ff -½ -120 (5dimes)
    Tigers ff -0.5 +105 (betonline)
    Redsox/Tigers ff o4.5 -130 (5dimes)
    Blue jays /Yankees u9*
    Nationals ml
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    Why is this titled Saturday Forshadowing when most od these games are today?

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    lad/pit ffu3
    Phillies/Padres o6.5 -120 (5dimes)
    Chicago Cubs ff -½ -120 (5dimes)
    Tigers ff -0.5 +105 (betonline)
    Redsox/Tigers ff o4.5 -130 (5dimes)
    Blue jays /Yankees u9*
    Nationals ml
    White Sox ml
    White sox/Royals u8

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