1. 08-06-15 02:50 PM #1
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    Why is Derek Jeter a shoe in 1st ballot Hall Of Famer yet...

    Kenny Lofton will never get in?


    Lofton has the 10th best WAR. ALL TIME.


    Jeter career OBP: .377

    Lofton? .372
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  2. 08-06-15 02:54 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post


    Lofton has the 10th best WAR. ALL TIME.

    Excuse me?
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  3. 08-06-15 02:59 PM #3
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    How dare you compare Jeter and a Lofton smh
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  4. 08-06-15 03:03 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Excuse me?

    10th best Wins Above Replacement for center fielders.


    ALL TIME.

    Advanced baseball stat that accounts for offense, defense, base running etc.
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  5. 08-06-15 03:07 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    10th best Wins Above Replacement for center fielders.


    ALL TIME.

    Advanced baseball stat that accounts for offense, defense, base running etc.
    I know what WAR means, you just didn't say it was based on centerfielders in your opening post.

    It was a bit misleading.
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  6. 08-06-15 03:09 PM #6
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    Jeter was very fortunate to play with the Yankees he never even wouid of got a chance with another team or would've just been an unknown type player

    He was surrounded by unreal talent
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  8. 08-06-15 03:25 PM #8
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    Yankees are easier to get in HOF than players having similar stats playing for no big name teams like Indians.
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  9. 08-06-15 03:28 PM #9
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    Bar been set way too high for Lofton's numbers, He'd prob make a Hall of Pretty Good if there was one.
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  10. 08-06-15 03:58 PM #10
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    Jeter would have had to wait as long as Biggio did if he had been drafted by the Astros.
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  11. 08-06-15 04:58 PM #11
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    Why do we really give a f*ck?
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  12. 08-06-15 09:40 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by big joe 1212 View Post
    Why do we really give a f*ck?

    Because it's a sports/gambling forum?


    Again, to those who say Lofton was not quite good enough for the Hall, he's statistically the 10th best center fielder ever.

    The 10th best center fielder ever won't get into the Hall Of Fame but Jeter will go in on the first ballot. That just ain't right.
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  13. 08-06-15 10:42 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Jeter was very fortunate to play with the Yankees he never even wouid of got a chance with another team or would've just been an unknown type player

    He was surrounded by unreal talent
    yet he was the the yankee who was doing all the big things at the biggest stage.
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  14. 08-07-15 12:23 AM #14
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    WAR is a garbage stat and Jeter is probably the most over-rated player in the history of the game.
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  15. 08-07-15 02:57 AM #15
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    Does Lofton have herpes too?
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  16. 08-07-15 12:43 PM #16
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    For those that don't like WAR:

    Jeter's career wOBA (weighted On Base Average): .360

    Lofton: .352


    One guy will go into the Hall first ballot. The other will never get in.
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