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    I can't find one.

    The world would be on the Pirates.

    Brad Hand has a relatively sharp looking FIP this year...........(2.35)

    Cole's is 2.28 but I would imagine the Pirates would (will) be a sizeable favorite.

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    first start of the year for hand, right?

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    Yes, Archibald.

    He's logged 23 innings in relief so far.

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    Hand is a lefty

    Lefties neutralize a good portion of the Pirate's threats (Alvarez, Polanco, Walker)

    I think we will see a funky get away day lineup from the Pirates.


    Cutch is white hot right now and as is spark plug Harrison

    I'm thinking Over might be the play if it comes out at 7.5 or lower

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    If they hang a thin Pirates line (something in the -115 to -125 range), I will be on the Marlins.

    I saw Kutch's pay stub the other day on Deadspin: $400K every two weeks (net). Good for him. He worked his a s s off for it and he provides an elite service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    If they hang a thin Pirates line (something in the -115 to -125 range), I will be on the Marlins.

    I saw Kutch's pay stub the other day on Deadspin: $400K every two weeks (net). Good for him. He worked his a s s off for it and he provides an elite service.

    yeah the paystub was interesting.

    Cutch is one of the most under paid post arb "Stars" in the league.

    i'm conflicted because he is a really great dude from all accounts, and you'd like a humble guy like him to get paid all he deserves

    he signed a very very team friendly contract right before he became a stud. As a Pirate fan i'm happy for that.

    but yeah he lost about 200 million when he signed his name on that last extension

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    Pirates on a 5 game streak

    if they finish the sweep today, I might start a min martingale on them as they head into San Diego for 4

    I don't see them winning ten straight

    I think line comes out Pirates -150

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    Haven't seen a brew/giant line either

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    oh wow

    way off

    Cole getting alot of love

    Pirates -200ish to open

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    over/under 7 with the over highly juiced

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    -210/+180

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    oh wow

    way off

    Cole getting alot of love

    Pirates -200ish to open
    i actually thought Pirates would be -300

    Hand is garbage and the Marlins line-up is basically a double A line-up with Dee Gordon and Mike Stanton mixed in.

    Pirates prolly win 8-0

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    never bet big favs like this

    one loss and your week is over

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    never bet big favs like this

    one loss and your week is over
    how so?

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    I like the Under a lot in this one.
    Cole a stud at home...as long as Hand holds down Pirates somewhat, should hit.
    Under ump too...will check on wind out/in.
    These games between the 2 tend to go Under too.

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    who is the ump?

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    I wouldn't touch Miami with your dick atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollinDo View Post
    I like the Under a lot in this one.
    Cole a stud at home...as long as Hand holds down Pirates somewhat, should hit.
    Under ump too...will check on wind out/in.
    These games between the 2 tend to go Under too.
    That seems to be the play

    stay away from the juice..nobody ever got hurt betting unders in any sport

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    That seems to be the play

    stay away from the juice..nobody ever got hurt betting unders in any sport


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    trixtrix says to pound the under

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    If they hang a thin Pirates line (something in the -115 to -125 range), I will be on the Marlins.

    I saw Kutch's pay stub the other day on Deadspin: $400K every two weeks (net). Good for him. He worked his a s s off for it and he provides an elite service.
    I'm assuming you don't create your own lines (either do I), just curious because this line opened at more than a 2/1. Cole is coming into his own, Marlins are garbage atm.

    Are you making a large wager on Marlins now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlb View Post
    I'm assuming you don't create your own lines (either do I), just curious because this line opened at more than a 2/1. Cole is coming into his own, Marlins are garbage atm.

    Are you making a large wager on Marlins now?
    i think what he meant is that if the line opened in the range that he stated that the Marlins would be the play.

    Like you know how sometimes the bookies try to lay out a trap line?

    like the ole if it looks too good to be true type thing...?


    if books had hung such a low number on the Pirates who are "obviously the play" it would mean that the books think they know something we dont know someone would call it a "Marlins line"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post

    Hand is garbage0

    In 23 innings this year, he has been the opposite of garbage (2.35 FIP).

    But I agree, Marlins are destined to get swept and I'm seeing a 6-3 Pirates win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlb View Post
    I'm assuming you don't create your own lines (either do I), just curious because this line opened at more than a 2/1. Cole is coming into his own, Marlins are garbage atm.

    Are you making a large wager on Marlins now?

    Now that I know it's not a remotely thin line, I will not be touching Marlins.

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    1. Josh Harrison (R) RF
    2. Jordy Mercer (R) SS
    3. Andrew McCutchen (R) CF
    4. Starling Marte (R) LF
    5. Jung Ho Kang (R) 3B
    6. Neil Walker (S) 2B
    7. Sean Rodriguez (R) 1B
    8. Chris Stewart (R) C
    9. Gerrit Cole (R) P

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    I'm on Pirates -195 hugh

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    1. Dee Gordon (L) 2B
    2. Martin Prado (R) 3B
    3. Giancarlo Stanton (R) RF
    4. Justin Bour (L) 1B
    5. Marcell Ozuna (R) CF
    6. Christian Yelich (L) LF
    7. J.T. Realmuto (R) C
    8. Adeiny Hechavarria (R) SS
    9. Brad Hand (L) P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    i actually thought Pirates would be -300

    Hand is garbage and the Marlins line-up is basically a double A line-up with Dee Gordon and Mike Stanton mixed in.

    Pirates prolly win 8-0
    Shut the f\*\*k up.

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    Bour bomb to right

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    I'm gonna be sick to my stomach if the Pirates don't score a run in this game

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    Do pirates intentionally don't score runs? Seems to have a couple of sacrifices hits to score a couple....
    I mean it's Hand that are pitching.... Can't figure how they can't hit this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    I'm on Pirates -195 hugh
    unlike you to take such heavy favorite...

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    I can't believe this Kang guys OPS is above .800. He looks awful in every at bat.

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    Only McCutchen and Rodriquez decided to not be hangover for this game.

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    The Marlins are who we thought they are

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