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    Looks like numb nuts has done it again with Tampa. Now you're laying over 6 1/2 units to win 1. Looks like horse racing odds (IN REVERSE). Keep on keeping on dumbass.

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    COMPLETED CHASES (Apr. 02 Wed):

    None

    Record: (1-0) +1u

    --------------------------------------------------------------
    ACTIVE CHASES:

    Chase #1:
    TOR @ TB [ML] 1.60 (A) Apr. 01 Tue - LOSS (-1.67u)
    TOR @ TB [ML] 1.68 (B) Apr. 02 Wed - LOSS (-3.926u)
    TOR @ TB [ML] (1.68) (C) Apr. 03 Thu 4:10p PDT

    --------------------------------------------------------------
    NEW CHASES (Apr. 03 Thu):

    Chase #3:
    MIN @ CWS [ML] 1.75 (A) Apr. 03 Thu 11:10a PDT
    CLE @ CWS (B) Apr. 10 Thu 5:10p PDT (If Necessary)
    CLE @ CWS (C) Apr. 11 Fri 5:10p PDT
    (If Necessary)
    Last edited by skyscrapers; 04-03-14 at 08:30 PM. Reason: added closing line

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    It's like the twerp says "Go Big or Go Home". I think he'll be doing the latter. You boys better get out the wallets; idiot here has only been betting 2 days and he's down 4.59 units. But not to worry, the gambling guru hasn't told you that if TB loses today you'll be down another 9 1/4 units or so. Oh, but I forgot Miami won on Tuesday YEA !!

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    The boy is on a roll now. White Sox go down in defeat, and the many followers go down another 1.33 units. How many are following now? 6
    He'll probably win one of these chases soon, but it's going to get expensive to win that 1 unit. Hey sky, go to sleep tonight, and dream up another of these well back tested super systems for your sheep. Damn, this idiot reminds me of DarkKnight. Sky may pass him in stupid, and that is saying a lot. Give it up soon, and quit wasting your time, this will never work. Why should anyone with any common sense play the home team just because their previous game had 10> runs scored? No other reason, that's it, just 10+ runs scored in a game. Fuking ridiculous idea from a soon to be broke retard. Stay tuned

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    Rays up 7-2 bottom 8

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    Rays win. We'll get a win from the Sox tomorrow. Keep it up Sky. Snark, go play in the street

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoderlw View Post
    Rays win. We'll get a win from the Sox tomorrow. Keep it up Sky. Snark, go play in the street
    Oh don't forget this is a home chase. The (B) bet for the Sox is Apr. 10.
    I post all the info on the summary every night or in the early morning so you can use that as reference.

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    Rays win. Rays win. We'll wait and lose our ass next week.

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    COMPLETED CHASES (Apr. 03 Thu):

    Chase #1: - WIN (+1.0u)
    TOR @ TB [ML] 1.60 (A) Apr. 01 Tue - LOSS (-1.67u)
    TOR @ TB [ML] 1.68 (B) Apr. 02 Wed - LOSS (-3.926u)
    TOR @ TB [ML] 1.68 (C) Apr. 03 Thu - WIN (+6.596u)

    Record: (2-0) +2.0u


    --------------------------------------------------------------
    ACTIVE CHASES:

    Chase #3:
    MIN @ CWS [ML] 1.75 (A) Apr. 03 Thu - LOSS (-1.333u)
    CLE @ CWS (B) Apr. 10 Thu 5:10p PDT
    CLE @ CWS (C) Apr. 11 Fri 5:10p PDT (If Necessary)

    --------------------------------------------------------------
    NEW CHASES (Apr. 04 Fri):

    Chase #4:
    SD @ MIA [ML] 1.952 (A) Apr. 04 Fri 4:10p PDT
    SD @ MIA (B) Apr. 05 Sat 4:10p PDT (If Necessary)
    SD @ MIA (C) Apr. 06 Sun 10:10a PDT (If Necessary)
    Last edited by skyscrapers; 04-04-14 at 06:08 PM. Reason: added closing line

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    Good luck and thanks for the info
    ill be playing the system but after a home win with 10+runs, ill skip 2 home games to start the chase.

    We will see how it goes!

    Have a great season everyone

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    Miami has just closed as a moneyline play.

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    Hi, one question
    On the 2013 backtest, you said that Houston didnt have any loss, but i see that on their first game at home, the won 8-2 to texas, and they lost their next 5 games at home (Even +rl).
    I think may be you made a mistake and that the record is not very accurate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoniosdiaz1 View Post
    Hi, one question
    On the 2013 backtest, you said that Houston didnt have any loss, but i see that on their first game at home, the won 8-2 to texas, and they lost their next 5 games at home (Even +rl).
    I think may be you made a mistake and that the record is not very accurate
    You are right, it was a mistake.
    This particular game between Texas at Houston was the lone game played on Mar. 31 2013 and for some reason I logged it as an exhibition game instead of a regular season game because it was played in March.
    I will update the records right now. The loss was only -7.405u

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    2013 Backtest (Updated)
    Please disregard post #2 as I cannot edit it anymore.
    HOU actually has 1 series lost instead of none.
    - Backtests is based on the closing lines on Pinnacle as listed on SBR.

    ARI (13-0)
    ATL (15-0)
    BAL (11-1) (-17.715u)
    BOS (20-1) (-15.9u)
    CHC (9-1) (-11.055u)
    CWS (5-1) (-11.36u)
    CIN (10-0)
    CLE (13-2) (-11.55u / -9.605u)
    COL (23-1) (-12.09u)
    DET (21-1) (-11.695u)
    HOU (10-1) (-7.405u)
    KC (10-1) (-10.43u)
    LAA (11-3) (-11.925u / -7.75u / -10.31u)
    LAD (9-0)
    MIA (5-0)
    MIL (7-2) (-7.985u / -8.355u)
    MIN (12-0)
    NYM (5-1) (-9.7u)
    NYY (14-1) (-10.36u)
    OAK (16-2) (-10.105u / -10.61u)
    PHI (14-1) (-7.93u)
    PIT (8-0)
    SD (9-0)
    SEA (9-0)
    SF (8-0)
    STL (14-1) (-11.58u)
    TB (10-1) (-12.01u)
    TEX (15-0)
    TOR (14-1) (-11.935u)
    WSH (10-2) (-11.83u / -8.45u)

    2013 TOTAL: (350-25) 350u won / 269.64u lost = +80.36u PROFIT

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    2010 Backtest
    - Backtests is based on the closing lines on Pinnacle as listed on SBR.

    ARI (18-2) (-8.35u / -12.555u)
    ATL (20-0)
    BAL (12-1) (-11.04u)
    BOS (17-1) (-11.695u)
    CHC (12-1) (-9.81u)
    CWS (13-2) (-10u / -9.725u)
    CIN (13-2) (-13.06u / -13.63u)
    CLE (9-1) (-9.845u)
    COL (24-1) (-11.955u)
    DET (18-0)
    FLA (16-2) (-12.55u / -10.425u)
    HOU (8-1) (-13.123u)
    KC (13-0)
    LAA (14-2) (-10.953u) / -13.915u)
    LAD (14-0)
    MIL (14-4) (-8.62u / -14.445u / -9.505u / -9.235u)
    MIN (17-1) (-9.49u)
    NYM (12-0)
    NYY (24-3) (-12.495u / -22.6u / -33.555u)
    OAK (10-0)
    PHI (20-1) (-11.03u)
    PIT (12-0)
    SD (9-1) (-9.9u)
    SEA (3-0)
    SF (15-1) (-11.515u)
    STL (13-0)
    TB (14-3) (-15.695u / -15.91u / -15.86u)
    TEX (24-0)
    TOR (10-2) (-12.74u / -9.605u)
    WSH (11-2) (-9.785u / -8.12u)

    2010 TOTAL: (429-34) 429u won / 422.736u lost = +6.264u PROFIT

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    The 4-year (2010-2013) updated backtest results are:
    (1,524 - 112) +229.979u PROFIT
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    COMPLETED CHASES (Apr. 04 Fri)

    Chase #4: - WIN (+1.0u)
    SD @ MIA [ML] 1.952 (A) - WIN (+1.0u)

    Record: (3-0) +3.0u

    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    ACTIVE CHASES:

    Chase #3
    MIN @ CWS [ML] 1.75 (A) Apr. 03 Thu - LOSS (-1.333u)
    CLE @ CWS (B) Apr. 10 Thu 5:10p PDT
    CLE @ CWS (C) Apr. 11 Fri 5:10p PDT (If Necessary)

    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    NEW CHASES: (Apr. 05 Sat)

    Chase #5:
    BAL @ DET [ML] (A) Apr. 05 Sat 10:05a PDT
    BAL @ DET (B) Apr. 06 Sun 10:05a PDT (If Necessary)
    CLE @ DET (C) Apr. 15 Tue 4:05p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #6:
    ARI @ COL [ML] (A) Apr. 05 Sat 5:10p PDT
    ARI @ COL (B) Apr. 06 Sun 1:10p PDT (If Necessary)
    CWS @ COL (C) Apr. 07 Mon 5:40p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #7:
    CWS @ KC [ML] (A) Apr. 05 Sat 11:10a PDT
    CWS @ KC (B) Apr. 06 Sun 11:10a PDT (If Necessary)
    TB @ KC (C) Apr. 07 Mon 5:10p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #8:
    STL @ PIT [ML] (A) Apr. 05 Sat 4:05p PDT
    STL @ PIT (B) Apr. 06 Sun 10:35a PDT (If Necessary)
    MIL @ PIT (C) Apr. 17 Thu 4:05p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #9:
    SD @ MIA [ML] (A) Apr. 05 Sat 4:10p PDT
    SD @ MIA (B) Apr. 06 Sun 10:10a PDT (If Necessary)
    WSH @ MIA (C) Apr. 14 Mon 4:10p PDT (If Necessary)
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    Good luck , Im not really following the chase , but will follow all A bets

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    Any reason you do a 3 game chase instead of a 4?

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    It's hard to argue with 4 years of data. Big day today! Keep it up Sky!

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    He probably doesn't do a 4 game chase because of the high value risk

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    4-game chases may work on -110 lines like basketball spreads because you know how much you're going to lose if you happen to lose a (D) bet but for ML chases losing a (D) bet may be detrimental and irrecoverable. For example in 2010 (which was a down year but still managed a small profit), we lost a series with the Yanks that cost us 33.5 units. Had we gone 4 games and lost we would have incurred a significant deficit. By the way that (D) bet would have won though but too much risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceofSP2107 View Post
    Good luck , Im not really following the chase , but will follow all A bets
    If anything it makes more sense to follow all the B and C bets

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    COMPLETED CHASES (Apr. 05 Sat)

    Chase #5:
    BAL @ DET [ML] 1.76 (A) -
    WIN (+1u)

    Chase #6:
    ARI @ COL [ML] 1.85 (A) -
    WIN (+1u)

    Chase #7:
    CWS @ KC [ML] 1.68 (A) -
    WIN (+1u)

    Chase #9:
    SD
    @ MIA [ML] 1.67 (A) - WIN (+1u)

    Record: (7-0) +7.0u

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    ACTIVE CHASES:

    Chase #3
    MIN @ CWS [ML] 1.75 (A) Apr. 03 Thu - LOSS (-1.333u)
    CLE @ CWS (B) Apr. 10 Thu 5:10p PDT
    CLE @ CWS (C) Apr. 11 Fri 5:10p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #8:

    STL @ PIT [ML] 1.73 (A) Apr. 05 Sat 4:05p PDT - LOSS (-1.37u)
    STL @ PIT [+1.5 RL] (B) Apr. 06 Sun 10:35a PDT
    MIL @ PIT (C) Apr. 17 Thu 4:05p PDT (If Necessary)

    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    NEW CHASES: (Apr. 06 Sun)

    Chase #10:
    BAL @ DET [ML] (A) Apr. 06 Sun 10:05a PDT
    CLE @ DET (B) Apr. 15 Tue 4:05p PDT (If Necessary)
    CLE @ DET (C) Apr. 16 Wed 4:05p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #11:
    ARI @
    COL [ML] (A) Apr. 06 Sun 1:10p PDT
    CWS @ COL (B) Apr. 07 Mon 5:40p PDT (If Necessary)
    CWS @ COL (C) Apr. 08 Tue 5:40p PDT (If Necessary)

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyscrapers View Post
    4-game chases may work on -110 lines like basketball spreads because you know how much you're going to lose if you happen to lose a (D) bet but for ML chases losing a (D) bet may be detrimental and irrecoverable. For example in 2010 (which was a down year but still managed a small profit), we lost a series with the Yanks that cost us 33.5 units. Had we gone 4 games and lost we would have incurred a significant deficit. By the way that (D) bet would have won though but too much risk.
    True there's a significant increase in risk for every game you add to a series. I use labby lines so it doesn't worry me as much but there could definitely be a scenario where you lose around 60 units or so in a series, as rare as it would be. Cisco (the most successful baseball bettor I've seen) uses a 4 game chase for all of his MLB plays which is why I was asking. Wasn't sure if you had done a comparison of the risk/reward for a 3 game vs. a 4 game chase.. but you've shown the system profitable through back testing which is enough I guess. Haha, BOL.

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    checking in, liking what im readingggggg

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    Hey Caleb, I've heard of this Cisco but can't find his thread. Does he post his plays on here?

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    COMPLETED CHASES (Apr. 06 Sun)

    Chase #8: WIN (+1.0u)
    STL @ PIT [ML] 1.73 (A) Apr. 05 Sat 4:05p PDT - LOSS (-1.37u)
    STL @ PIT [+1.5 RL] 1.87 (B) Apr. 06 Sun 10:35a PDT - WIN (+2.37u)

    Record:
    (8-0) +8.0u


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    ACTIVE CHASES:

    Chase #10:
    BAL @ DET [ML] 1.69 (A) Apr. 06 Sun 10:05a PDT - LOSS (-1.45u)
    CLE @ DET (B) Apr. 15 Tue 4:05p PDT
    CLE @ DET (C) Apr. 16 Wed 4:05p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #11:
    ARI @ COL [ML] 1.81 (A) Apr. 06 Sun 1:10p PDT - LOSS (-1.235u)
    CWS @ COL [ML] (B) Apr. 07 Mon 5:40p PDT
    CWS @ COL (C) Apr. 08 Tue 5:40p PDT (If Necessary)

    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    NEW CHASES: (Beginning on or after Apr. 07 Mon)

    Chase #12:
    LAA @ HOU [+1.5 RL] (A) Apr. 07 Mon 11:10a PDT
    KC @ HOU (B) Apr. 15 Tue 5:10p PDT (If Necessary)
    KC @ HOU (C) Apr. 16 Wed 5:10p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #13:
    PIT @ CHC (A) Apr. 08 Tue 5:05p PDT
    PIT @ CHC (B) Apr. 09 Wed 5:05p PDT (If Necessary)
    PIT @ CHC (C) Apr. 10 Thu 11:20a PDT (If Necessary)
    Last edited by skyscrapers; 04-07-14 at 02:56 AM.

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    COMPLETED CHASES (Apr. 07 Mon)

    Chase #11: (WIN +1.0u)
    ARI @ COL [ML] 1.81 (A) Apr. 06 Sun - LOSS (-1.235u)
    CWS @ COL [ML] 1.68 (B) Apr. 07 Mon - WIN (+2.235u)

    Record:
    (9-0) +9.0u


    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ACTIVE CHASES:

    Chase #3
    MIN @ CWS [ML] 1.75 (A) Apr. 06 Sun - LOSS (-1.333u)
    CLE @ CWS (B) Apr. 10 Thu 5:10p PDT
    CLE @ CWS (C) Apr. 11 Fri 5:10p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #10:

    BAL @ DET [ML] 1.69 (A) Apr. 06 Sun - LOSS (-1.45u)
    CLE @ DET (B) Apr. 15 Tue 4:05p PDT
    CLE @ DET (C) Apr. 16 Wed 4:05p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #12:
    LAA @ HOU [+1.5 RL] 1.84 (A) Apr. 07 Mon - LOSS (-1.19u)
    KC @ HOU (B) Apr. 15 Tue 5:10p PDT
    KC @ HOU (C) Apr. 16 Wed 5:10p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #13:
    PIT @ CHC [+1.5 RL] (A) Apr. 08 Tue 5:05p PDT
    PIT @ CHC (B) Apr. 09 Wed 5:05p PDT (If Necessary)
    PIT @ CHC (C) Apr. 10 Thu 11:20a PDT (If Necessary)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    NEW CHASES: (Beginning on or after Apr. 08 Tue)

    None

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    Nice start of the season Sky, good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex50warrior View Post
    Nice start of the season Sky, good luck!
    So far so good but we all know in chase systems the losses will come eventually and that is inevitable.
    Just that at the end of the season we should (or will) have more wins than losses based on the backtest numbers.

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    Yeah there will be a big loss at some point but we already have 9 units in the bank! Keep it up Sky! Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoderlw View Post
    Yeah there will be a big loss at some point but we already have 9 units in the bank! Keep it up Sky! Thanks!
    Make it 10 units!! The Cubbies didn't look so good after 1 but came back with a cover...

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    COMPLETED CHASES (Apr. 08 Tue)

    Chase #13: WIN (+1.0u)
    PIT @ CHC [+1.5 RL] 1.61 (A) Apr. 08 Tue - WIN (+1.0u)

    Record:
    (10-0) +10.0u


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    ACTIVE CHASES:

    Chase #3

    MIN @ CWS [ML] 1.75 (A) Apr. 06 Sun - LOSS (-1.333u)
    CLE @ CWS (B) Apr. 10 Thu 5:10p PDT
    CLE @ CWS (C) Apr. 11 Fri 5:10p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #10:

    BAL @ DET [ML] 1.69 (A) Apr. 06 Sun - LOSS (-1.45u)
    CLE @ DET (B) Apr. 15 Tue 4:05p PDT
    CLE @ DET (C) Apr. 16 Wed 4:05p PDT(If Necessary)

    Chase #12:
    LAA @ HOU [+1.5 RL] 1.84 (A) Apr. 07 Mon - LOSS (-1.19u)
    KC @ HOU (B) Apr. 15 Tue 5:10p PDT
    KC @ HOU (C) Apr. 16 Wed 5:10p PDT (If Necessary)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    NEW CHASES: (Beginning on or after Apr. 09 Wed)

    Chase #14:
    ARI @ SF [ML] (A) Apr. 09 Wed 7:15p PDT
    ARI @ SF (B) Apr. 10 Thu 7:15p PDT (If Necessary)
    COL @ SF (C) Apr. 11 Fri 7:15 PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #15:
    SD @ CLE [ML] (A) Apr. 09 Wed 9:05a PDT (Double-Header Game #1)
    SD @ CLE [ML] (B) Apr. 09 Wed 12:30p PDT (Double-Header Game #2) (If Necessary)
    TOR @ CLE (C) Apr. 18 Fri 4:05p PDT (If Necessary)

    Chase #16:
    CIN @ STL [ML] (A) Apr. 09 Wed 10:45a PDT
    CHC @ STL (B) Apr. 11 Fri 5:15p PDT (If Necessary)
    CHC @ STL (C) Apr. 12 Sat 11:15p PDT (If Necessary)

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    NOTE: Chase #15 is a chase that involves a double-header on Apr. 09 Wed.
    Since this is the first such instance I'll go through all the scenerios that may happen.

    - Game 1 wins chase is over
    - Game 1 wins with a total of 10 or more, Game 2 will be another (A) bet
    - Game 1 loses, Game 2 will be the (B) bet
    - Game 1 postponed chase is cancelled

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