Wily juiced up veteran or one of the best young pitchers in the game?
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10-08-13 10:00 PM #1
If you're the A's, do you start Colon or Gray in Game 5?
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10-08-13 11:51 PM #2
it should be gray because colon's back is probably gonna give out like it did in 2005.
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10-08-13 11:55 PM #3
Colon without a doubt, wouldn't trust a rookie in elimination game.
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10-08-13 11:59 PM #4
ol juicy where my money be..
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10-09-13 12:54 AM #5
Can't find an edge so gonna hedge. Taking DET in game 5 vs A's series wager
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10-09-13 01:06 AM #6
I'd go with gray. He's on normal days rest. Colon is a contact pitcher and the tigers bats have obviously come to life.
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10-09-13 04:16 AM #7
Sonny Gray isn't just any rookie, have you even been watching the A's this season? Game 2 was essentially an elimination game and he outdueled verlander.
Originally Posted by scholesy
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10-09-13 06:21 AM #8
Melvin is going with Colon.
On the bright side for the A's Bartolo Colon
cant pitch any worse than he did last time
and Verlander cant possibly any better
than he did last time.
Hopefully Scherzer will not be available out of the pen
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10-09-13 06:44 AM #9
I'd start Gray. And I wouldn't even consider a wager on the As with Colon on the mound. With Gray I'd give it some thought.
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10-09-13 06:52 AM #10
why is that? Originally Posted by Down_Goes Bookie
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10-09-13 06:55 AM #11
Gray and Colon will probably both pitch right?
i'm sure whichever one doesnt start will be 1st in relief
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10-09-13 07:30 AM #12
Tigers hitting him at a .330 clip. Gave up 10 H in 6 IP vs. Det last week. Weak September schedule, facing Seattle Minnesota and Houston. Unfavorable peripherals... same as all year and yeah he shows up with the mojo and baffles everyone but I just don't see the portly veteran coming out of this one on top. Originally Posted by Big Bear
Gray could bail him out from the bullpen but if A's are already down 3-0 and Verlander repeats his last stellar outing that's a big deficit.
PA AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SH SF IBB HBP GDP missG Torii Hunter 66 60 15 6 0 2 8 4 11 .250 .318 .450 .768 0 0 0 2 0 Ramon Santiago 28 26 11 3 1 0 3 0 2 .423 .444 .615 1.060 1 0 0 1 0 Victor Martinez 26 25 8 3 0 1 3 1 3 .320 .346 .560 .906 0 0 0 0 0 Miguel Cabrera 19 19 9 2 0 0 3 0 2 .474 .474 .579 1.053 0 0 0 0 1 Austin Jackson 18 17 5 1 0 0 0 1 6 .294 .333 .353 .686 0 0 0 0 0 Alex Avila 11 11 6 1 0 2 5 0 1 .545 .545 1.182 1.727 0 0 0 0 0 Andy Dirks 11 11 4 0 0 1 1 0 2 .364 .364 .636 1.000 0 0 0 0 0 Jhonny Peralta 11 11 2 0 0 0 0 0 3 .182 .182 .182 .364 0 0 0 0 0 Prince Fielder 10 10 5 1 0 1 4 0 0 .500 .500 .900 1.400 0 0 0 0 1 Omar Infante 10 10 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 .400 .400 .400 .800 0 0 0 0 0 Don Kelly 7 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 Jose Iglesias 4 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000 0 0 0 0 0 Brayan Pena 2 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1.000 .500 1.000 1.500 0 1 0 0 0 Total 223 212 70 17 1 7 28 6 31 .330 .356 .519 .875 1 1 0 3 2
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10-09-13 07:53 AM #13
fukk!!
your right.
They better pitch Gray
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10-09-13 08:20 AM #14
Are the A's considering Gray?
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10-09-13 08:24 AM #15
Bob Melvin is a fukkin idiot
how the fukk do you leave Doolittle in after
a HR and double??
not only does he blow the lead, he lets Tigers take the lead.
If i say see Doolittle pitch again i'm going to break my tv
he is a fukkin scrub.
and Soggard???? how the hell is this guy in the major leagues???
hes automatic out, ive seen pitchers in the NL who swing the bat better
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10-09-13 08:34 AM #16
sonny gray has been lights out and pitched great vs verlander. colon not as much. start the kid! colon in bullpen just in case
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10-09-13 08:48 AM #17
after giving it some thought , I agree Originally Posted by BMoreBird
he gives the A's the best chance to win.
Any word on if this may happen or not?
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10-09-13 09:08 AM #18
not yet. im waiting... probably will be announced this afternoon.
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10-09-13 09:25 AM #19
looks like colon is starting. i bet gray will be in the bullpen in case he starts off poorly or gets in a jam.
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10-09-13 09:43 AM #20
Rotoworld:
Justin Verlander will start ALDS Game 5 against the Athletics on Thursday.
The Tigers used Max Scherzer for two innings in relief in Game 4, so Verlander will now get the ball in Oakland. He held the A's scoreless while striking out 11 over seven innings in Game 2 last weekend.The A's have yet to announce their starter, but it will be either Bartolo Colon or Sonny Gray. Scherzer should be ready to go for Game 1 of the ALCS should the Tigers advance.
Source: Jane Lee on Twitter
Oct 8 - 9:26 PM
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10-09-13 09:52 AM #21
WTF are you talking about? Originally Posted by Big Bear
This post couldn't be more wrong on every level.
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10-09-13 10:00 AM #22
If Colon starts Tigers win.
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10-09-13 11:19 AM #23
how so? Originally Posted by No coincidences
Verlander cant pitch any better than he did last time.
He didnt give up a single run. Maybe this time he gives up 3
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10-09-13 11:20 AM #24
i agree. Originally Posted by Luckycharms2012
Save Colon for Game 1 vs Red Sox.
This Gray kid has swing and miss stuff.
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10-09-13 11:28 AM #25
What makes everyone so confident in zoolander? He's been shaky, we all know this. Not saying he wont come through when it matters, more just playing devils advocate really, just seems everyone's already counted the As out. If zoolander shits the bed, who's behind him??
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10-09-13 11:50 AM #26
Because the A's had so many chances to win yesterday and they choked. Now the Tigers Originally Posted by Vinnie Paz
What makes everyone so confident in zoolander? He's been shaky, we all know this. Not saying he wont come through when it matters, more just playing devils advocate really, just seems everyone's already counted the As out. If zoolander shits the bed, who's behind him??
have momentum.
Reddick, and Moss have been striking out way too much. Soggard couldnt hit water
if he fell out a boat. (hopefully Collaspo starts Thursday)
Verlander has been brilliant in his last 3 starts and looked like
Cy Young Verlander in his last start this past Saturday.
That and Verlander dominated the A's last year in game 5 too.
And the Tigers bats have woken up. V-Mart and Peralta are on fire!
Only hope for the A's is that Verlander throws 120 pitches thru 6 innings and the Tigers bring in
Coke or Benoit
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10-09-13 11:58 AM #27
Colon wasn't that bad the first time out. "Couldn't be any worse"? Other than the first inning, he was fine. Originally Posted by Big Bear
And to think Scherzer would be available out of the bullpen again? LOL.
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10-09-13 11:59 AM #28
I got A's to win the series but i just hedged . Lost all confidence in the A's after yesterday.
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10-09-13 12:01 PM #29
Colon did not have good stuff in his last start. His velocity was down. He lacked movement too. Originally Posted by No coincidences
i dont know if Scherzer will be available or not.
Are you saying he's confirmed not available in the bullpen Thursday?
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10-09-13 12:20 PM #30
momentum dont mean shit.. Originally Posted by Big Bear
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10-09-13 12:41 PM #31
It almost doesn't matter much, either will be on a very tight leash. I would start Colon as emotions will be very high to start and I'd rather have a dumb, fat, regressing experienced juice head than a rookie in the first few innings.
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10-09-13 01:08 PM #32
Tigers had never seen grey.
now they have
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10-09-13 01:09 PM #33
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10-09-13 01:59 PM #34
Source? Originally Posted by Birdman557
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10-09-13 02:26 PM #35
Hasta be Colon......outside of a few pitches in the 1st inning in Game 1, guy was shutdown.
He's earned the right to start this game. I'm sure the leash will be a little tighter, and Gray will be available out of the bully.
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