[frogsrangers]

And they are favored again today over the Pirates. Has there ever been a team like this that continues to get this much respect from books despite their results on the field. They have been favorites in nearly 75% of their games this year and are probably have lost more money for people betting on them than any other team. Why do people continue to bet on them and why do they continue to get such respectful lines? Apart from the Cardinals I wonder if any other teams have been favored in more games this year.

[vyomguy]

i am sure yankees are favored in more games.

[I/O]

I'm sure I could be off here, but generally in baseball things pan out to expected norms as far as a baseball season. Someone hitting .270 lifetime will generally end close to that number whether they start off hitting .400 or start off hitting .150. Same goes for pitchers (or an entire staff). Average to the mean. Angels are putting the hurt on a lot of bankrolls right now for sure.

[Mike Huntertz]

Stack up well against Liariano tonight.
Slight Fav.

[downsouth]

Gotta catch em all!!!!

[HOT WINGS]

Tigers been favored a ton too, but at least they perform a lot better than Angels. Guess people never give up hope when looking at them on paper and just think there going to get better eventually. Superstar power inflating lines

[easyliving]

how many units would a person be up fading them every game?

[hubbard689]

It would depend on how many units the person was wagering

[billysink]

This is some good information here. I really would not have guessed that.

Hope someone sharper than me made some quid. Sharper than me ain't much these days anyways.


Good thread.

[Jago2008]

how many units would a person be up fading them every game?

If you had bet on Houston, from May 29th - June 3rd, during their 6-game win streak (Including 4-games series against the Angels), they were anywhere from 2.1-2.6 dogs every game - starting with $100 and reinvesting profit/initial sum you would have close to $100,000. Angels would have been the main fade during that win-streak.

[alta]

Live and Die in L.A.

Despite having massive payrolls, rosters packed with All-Star talent and some of the best baseball weather in the world, Los Angeles’ MLB clubs just plain stink. And if you’ve been betting either the Angles or the Dodgers, that’s the smell of money burning.

Los Angeles’ two teams are currently ranked as the two worst bets in the majors, with the Dodgers eating up -19.55 units and the Halos wasting -19.34 units thru 6/20. The pair are a combined 63-81 and still command hefty price tags on the moneyline based on name alone.

[ProfaneReality]

The market is driving their line, not bookies.

[Big Bear]

that and i think bookies put too much weight on a team playing at home.

[Big Bear]

still thinking about going huge on this game and taking the Angels

[Joe Dogs]

Angels as favs 24-29 and 19-34 in night games,wow......Talk about a team,lost in the dark.

[TO]

I feel like Pirates gonna take this one early on

[robmpink]

If you had bet on Houston, from May 29th - June 3rd, during their 6-game win streak (Including 4-games series against the Angels), they were anywhere from 2.1-2.6 dogs every game - starting with $100 and reinvesting profit/initial sum you would have close to $100,000. Angels would have been the main fade during that win-streak.

10k, or 100k? If 100k please explain.

[Jago2008]

10k, or 100k? If 100k please explain.

Sure, I thought it was interesting as well when I ran my own numbers:

I have to make sure what the EXACT odds were, but at that time (before the Astros started to win a little) they were essentially 2 to 1 odds entering the series against Colorado (which was playing better at the time), and as high as 2.4- 2.62 underdogs against the Angels, keep in mind Stros' were road-dogs in all games. So just for avgs I'll use a baseline odd of 2.2 or +220:

Day 1 (which was the 29th of May) - $100 @ +220 = $220 + initial investment = $320

Day 2 (30th) - $320 @ +220 = $704 + $320= $1024

Day 3 - $1024 @ +220 = $2252.8 + 1024 = $3276.80

Day 4 - $3276.80 @ +220 = $7208.96 + 3276.80 = $10,485.76

Day 5 - $10,485.76 @ +220 = $23068.67 + $10,485.76 = $33,554.43

Day 6 - $33,554.43 @ +220 = $73,819.75 + $33,554.43 = $107,374.18

[ChalkyDog]

Nice stat.

[ThaTopMoron]

Sure, I thought it was interesting as well when I ran my own numbers:

I have to make sure what the EXACT odds were, but at that time (before the Astros started to win a little) they were essentially 2 to 1 odds entering the series against Colorado (which was playing better at the time), and as high as 2.4- 2.62 underdogs against the Angels, keep in mind Stros' were road-dogs in all games. So just for avgs I'll use a baseline odd of 2.2 or +220:

Day 1 (which was the 29th of May) - $100 @ +220 = $220 + initial investment = $320

Day 2 (30th) - $320 @ +220 = $704 + $320= $1024

Day 3 - $1024 @ +220 = $2252.8 + 1024 = $3276.80

Day 4 - $3276.80 @ +220 = $7208.96 + 3276.80 = $10,485.76

Day 5 - $10,485.76 @ +220 = $23068.67 + $10,485.76 = $33,554.43

Day 6 - $33,554.43 @ +220 = $73,819.75 + $33,554.43 = $107,374.18

unreal all it took was taking a dog str8 up to win 6 games... 100k in less than a week

[Seto]

2 things are wrong with your reasoning though.

1) 2.20 in european odds is +120 not +220
2) you would have to start at the exact right moment and stop after exactly 6 games? who not 4, 5, 7 or 8? there is no logical explanation to why someone would stop after 6 games. although i get that's not the point and this is more of a "what if" thought.

[Yazworm91]

May 29 @ Colorado Rockies * +210 10 Won *6 - 3 *
May 30 @ Colorado Rockies * +205 10 Won *7 - 5 *
May 31 @ Los Angeles Angels * +220 8.5 Won *6 - 3 *
Jun 1 @ Los Angeles Angels * +210 8.5 Won *2 - 0 *
Jun 2 @ Los Angeles Angels * +220 8.5 Won *5 - 4 *
Jun 3 @ Los Angeles Angels * +175 8.5 Won *2 - 1 *

He was using 2.1 = +210 you just multiply your bet by the odds. He is correct. These odds show here are from Vegas insider and probably low to what they actually were. These are not euro odds.

[Jago2008]

2 things are wrong with your reasoning though.

1) 2.20 in european odds is +120 not +220
2) you would have to start at the exact right moment and stop after exactly 6 games? who not 4, 5, 7 or 8? there is no logical explanation to why someone would stop after 6 games. although i get that's not the point and this is more of a "what if" thought.

Honestly Seto I rarely, If ever deal in European odds, I know you are correct in that assertion, but its not something I would have considered.

Just like our conversation with the Heat ML a few days ago, this is no different. I mean honestly constraint is one thing, being able to bet on those 6 exact days is just an anomaly, I can't imagine anyone did that, but I was trying to point out in response to what ppl were talking abt with fading the Angels. I was in Vegas during that streak, and was on the losing side of an Angels bet, I remember asking myself what the hell I was doing paying that price for such a poor product, then ran some numbers on the LAstros. Appreciate the opinion.

[Coreos]

Sure, I thought it was interesting as well when I ran my own numbers:

I have to make sure what the EXACT odds were, but at that time (before the Astros started to win a little) they were essentially 2 to 1 odds entering the series against Colorado (which was playing better at the time), and as high as 2.4- 2.62 underdogs against the Angels, keep in mind Stros' were road-dogs in all games. So just for avgs I'll use a baseline odd of 2.2 or +220:

Day 1 (which was the 29th of May) - $100 @ +220 = $220 + initial investment = $320

Day 2 (30th) - $320 @ +220 = $704 + $320= $1024

Day 3 - $1024 @ +220 = $2252.8 + 1024 = $3276.80

Day 4 - $3276.80 @ +220 = $7208.96 + 3276.80 = $10,485.76

Day 5 - $10,485.76 @ +220 = $23068.67 + $10,485.76 = $33,554.43

Day 6 - $33,554.43 @ +220 = $73,819.75 + $33,554.43 = $107,374.18

Jago, where were you a month ago???? Could have really used you then Interesting "what if" scenario.

[thetrinity]

oddsmakers dont like to make big adjustments especially in baseball.

[cankid]

been betting pirates often this year, got spooked and didnt bet em against the angels, the last 2 games is a good example on what good pitching can do for you and it can carry u through most of a long season.

[Jago2008]

Jago, where were you a month ago???? Could have really used you then Interesting "what if" scenario.

Hehe, I know right?!

As that quote goes "everything in hindsight is 20-20" but yeah I thought it was an interesting "what if" scenario.