[MagicDiceFlow]

Should be a slugfest in St Louis tonight with the warmer humid evening on the horizon. I don't see how Holland and Lyons will be able to contain both these offenses under the 8.5.

Full lineup is intact for both teams. Two erratic pitchers on the mound.

Pound the Over 8.5

[No coincidences]

Seems like it should be higher -- it's actually dipped from 8.5 to 8 and the books are juicing the 8 now.

[2daBank]

they both not nearly as good v lefties. i think lyons is horrible tho and i do expect tex to score now that kinsler been back for a minute and they getting moreland back. not so sure cards get much off holland tho, he has struggled a little but that shouldnt continue and he has the stuff to slow cards bats down as he did in the "11 WS..i hit tex pretty big +110 last night as that line seemed backwords to me, line off just on starting pitchers alone, throw in revenge factor and i like tex tonight but think we talking something like 6-2/ 6-3..ill be rooting for 6-3, gl bro

[2daBank]

Seems like it should be higher -- it's actually dipped from 8.5 to 8 and the books are juicing the 8 now.

that cause holland will limit cards..i think if you like over you play tex tt ov 4..that just me tho

[MagicDiceFlow]

Seems like it should be higher -- it's actually dipped from 8.5 to 8 and the books are juicing the 8 now.

I bought the hook down to 8 -130 ....not gonna get greedy here, that extra 20 cents is worth it. That Over 8 looks so much better.

Best of Luck fellas

Ticket #	Accepted	Type	Risk	To Win	Short Description
	6/21/2013 4:31PM	Total	375.00	285.84	Baseball - 977 Texas Rangers/St. Louis Cardinals over 8 -131 buying ½ for Game

[MagicDiceFlow]

they both not nearly as good v lefties. i think lyons is horrible tho and i do expect tex to score now that kinsler been back for a minute and they getting moreland back. not so sure cards get much off holland tho, he has struggled a little but that shouldnt continue and he has the stuff to slow cards bats down as he did in the "11 WS..i hit tex pretty big +110 last night as that line seemed backwords to me, line off just on starting pitchers alone, throw in revenge factor and i like tex tonight but think we talking something like 6-2/ 6-3..ill be rooting for 6-3, gl bro

I see why it's not higher. Probably due to Cards not hitting lefties particularly well this year. I still like their stacked offense against an erratic Holland. I did think about doing a team total instead but I think there's better overall value on the Over due to one of these teams may explode for over 6 runs tonight.

Good luck bro

[2daBank]

Trust me I been telling everyone how bad I think Lyons is. Only reason he in rotation cause cards are protecting wacha. He won't be for long. Tex Tt ov 4 is half the juice and they the ones with strong chance for 6. Really believe cards struggle w holland but either way I'm pretty confident Lyons gets hit. Hopefully tex scores 8 for u and wins 8-2.. Gl

[drfunkmaster]

good luck...

[italianbandit]

I agree with Bank on Lyons.

[HOT WINGS]

I actually kind of lean under, but just playing Rangers here. GL

[BigDofBA]

I like the under and Texas.

[2daBank]

I agree with Bank on Lyons.

avg at best fastball that he struggles to locate, his off speed stuff hangs up over the plate (especially his slider that looks like a Frisbee), i been screaming this since his 1st start vs pads where he had the benefit of them being cold and being in a pitchers park..went against him in kc and somehow roayals managed to roll over on all that hanging crap, i couldnt figure out if he was jst hiding his pitches well or fortunate he was playing cold lineups? then sf got him for 4 and started thinking i was right, cincy let him off the hook a ton but they were struggling drioving runners in at the time, then finally a fish team that cant hit lefties crushed him after he walked the pitcher not once but twice! tex numbers not great vs lefties but this kid is not a mlb starter and is just here until martinez gets stretched out or wacha gets his 3rd pitch under control, he a stop gap and after he gets shelled tonight kelly may just take his spot..

[2daBank]

if it goes under it cause cards only score 2, which i think is very possible cause holand is beyond due for a really good start, he too goods a pitcher to cntinue how he has pitched lately..i mean total says it all, if we know lyons getting hit total screams holland pitches well imo cause that pretty low for lyons who trash and holland who has struggled..

[BigDofBA]

if it goes under it cause cards only score 2, which i think is very possible cause holand is beyond due for a really good start, he too goods a pitcher to cntinue how he has pitched lately..i mean total says it all, if we know lyons getting hit total screams holland pitches well imo cause that pretty low for lyons who trash and holland who has struggled..

Totally agree.

I'm a huge Cardinals fan and I think Texas wins something like 4-2.

[2daBank]

Totally agree.

I'm a huge Cardinals fan and I think Texas wins something like 4-2.

lynos stuff looked better in that 1st inning than it has in some time, kept everyting down and had movement. maybe dude gonna bring it knowing he pitching for his spot in rotation? hope not, lol..pissed that tex pushed darvish back to monday, was gonna score tickets for waino vs yu sunday night for sure..

[drfunkmaster]

cards 1-0

[2daBank]

someone gonna have to tell me wtf wrong with holland? his peripherals say he should be getting back on track sooner than later.. is it gonna be another gm this weak where i bitch slap closer and get bitch slapped? man i hope not, i dont like missing on cards gms, this inning gonna get good for you magic man, craig is a fukkin animal with risp..

[drfunkmaster]

cards 3-0

[2daBank]

like usual craig delivers with risp..dude hitting like .500 in such spots, freaking unreal..

[2daBank]

holland finally gets a out, lol..

[2daBank]

if tex hits lyons anywhere3 close to what i said this gm gonna have 15 runs..

[Gus Fring]

if it goes under it cause cards only score 2, which i think is very possible cause holand is beyond due for a really good start, he too goods a pitcher to cntinue how he has pitched lately..i mean total says it all, if we know lyons getting hit total screams holland pitches well imo cause that pretty low for lyons who trash and holland who has struggled..

Lmao what a square. 3 runs off holland already in the 1st

[2daBank]

just took tex more hits in 2nd more runs in 2nd :0..lyons struggled vs lefties..

[sportsguy04]

Game is gonna be 10-9

[2daBank]

Game is gonna be 10-9

yep..lyons gonna give up runs.."11 world series all over again, lol

[sportsguy04]

Question is how many will holland give up

[2daBank]

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[2daBank]

lyons walks pitcher , just like mia all over again!

[sportsguy04]

Lyons just walked the pitcher lol

[2daBank]

make him pay kinsler!

[2daBank]

Lyons just walked the pitcher lol

he did it twice in mia, lol

[sportsguy04]

I see he has trouble with his command.

[sportsguy04]

Bases loaded I would bet rangers get 0 runs here

[MagicDiceFlow]

someone gonna have to tell me wtf wrong with holland? his peripherals say he should be getting back on track sooner than later.. is it gonna be another gm this weak where i bitch slap closer and get bitch slapped? man i hope not, i dont like missing on cards gms, this inning gonna get good for you magic man, craig is a fukkin animal with risp..

The problem with Holland this year is his changeup to righties. If he can't disguise that changeup, hitters will wait out that slider which isnt potent this year. Wait on the slider and pound the changeup has been the formula for hitters off Holland.

[sportsguy04]

Yayyy!