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    easyliving
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    San Francisco Giants +174

    This is more of a value play than anything else as I can't pass up on the Giants at such a nice price. As bad as Zito has been he should benefit from PNC park here. Liriano has also looked good so far and PNC park is also a perfect fit for him. I think this game will be closer than the odds suggest and I will take my chances with the Giants.

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    I'm on it, was going to write up a post on this as well.
    Let's get this ****** up price.
    Never in my life would I ever thought I could see Liriano -185 again after his last full season pitching. He won't last.

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    Zito has horrible numbers against the Pirates...

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    Line speaks for itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ses_d View Post
    Zito has horrible numbers against the Pirates...
    where did u come up with that? according to espn.com the current pirates roster has a batting average of .221 against zito. thats decent

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    No Sandoval, Scutaro or Pagan.

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    Barry Zito will try to do Wednesday what Lincecum failed to do in the opener: put a halt to his road struggles this season. The veteran lefty is 0-3 with a 10.19 ERA in four starts away from home in 2013.
    Zito has offset that with some solid outings at home, but he picked up his first setback in San Francisco of this season on Wednesday with a 4-0 loss versus Toronto. Zito allowed all four of the Blue Jays' runs in the fifth inning, yielding a total of seven hits and three walks over the six-inning outing.
    The 35-year-old lost for the third time in his past four decisions and is 4-4 on the season with a 4.06 ERA in 12 starts. Zito is 2-3 in his career versus the Pirates with a 3.73 ERA in seven starts.

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    Folks stop looking at ERA without looking at FIP, XFIP or SIERRA.

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    Easy, from one Met fan to another- talk yourself out of it. I understand not laying -180 at this point, but don't buy the Giants tonight.

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    Where's Tatdaddy our resident Giant's expert when you need him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by italianbandit View Post
    Folks stop looking at ERA without looking at FIP, XFIP or SIERRA.
    what site provides this info?

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    Too many Giants players injured to lay action on SF

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyliving View Post
    what site provides this info?
    Fangraphs is a good start.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/


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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...WoLBhnJ1g#t=3s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_Demo View Post
    Too many Giants players injured to lay action on SF
    Agreed. These guys don't know how crucial having Pagan and Sandoval is...and now Scuturo too?
    On Pitts for a unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ses_d View Post
    Agreed. These guys don't know how crucial having Pagan and Sandoval is...and now Scuturo too?
    and Vogelsong

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    Zito is 0-4 in road games this season.
    However I was wrong before saying Zito has bad numbers against Pitts. 2-0 last season but barely squeaking out those wins with rbis from guys no longer on the Giants and now with three key guys out? No thanks.

    One thing for sure is Pitts can hit Zito for sure and if he doesn't get run support then he's in trouble. Another thing is guys playing this just for value on SF...you all know how that goes. Might as well throw your money on Houston at +200 odds if that's your logic.

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    Pirates easiest play on the board today. SF too many injuries

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    Sierra lol...wtf is that shit haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by italianbandit View Post
    Where's Tatdaddy our resident Giant's expert when you need him.

    Vacation


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    Pirates probably win a 1 run game. but I just couldn't pass up on the Giants at such a number

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    Barry Zito is pitching like a fuckin tool. What a joke.

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    2 hits and a walk to open the game. What a tool this guy is.

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    what in the fukk is zito doing right now, these balls wouldn't be strikes if the strike zone doubled SMFH

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    Yo Barry Zito cannot pitch people. Actually I already know I lost this game, but I'm just going to laugh at this guy while he gets crushed

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    Not sure how he got out of that only giving up one I'll take it, he doesn't look good though.

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    very tight strike zone, gonna force pitchers to throw down the middle

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    Liriano is back in his true form

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus Fring View Post
    Pirates easiest play on the board today. SF too many injuries

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    Wo this Zito guy completely sucks man

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    Giants lineup is ugggleee

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    Barry Zito absolutely cannot pitch for shit. This guy is sooo bad hahahaha

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    Look at this, 4 hits in a row, 3 hits in a row in the 1st. This guy is ass man. The manager is a dumbass for not taking him out

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMxth3xbossx5000 View Post
    Look at this, 4 hits in a row, 3 hits in a row in the 1st. This guy is ass man. The manager is a dumbass for not taking him out

    You're a dumbass for betting on Zito

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    I bet on the Giants. Not Zito. You tool. But Zito is garbage no matter how you look at it.

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    Barry Zito is night and day difference at home vs away. I don't know why, but that's just how it is.
    and no matter how bad Zito is struggling, Bochy is not going to put in his bullpen this early in the game.

    The manager won two world series rings, he's not a dumbass. But I'm sure YOU know more than him.

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