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    the Training applied to 1st Five Innings...

    i am starting a thread with selections for mostly 1st Five Innings*picks.

    The reason why i favor the 1st Five Innings, is that i have on several occasions had a game winning until the 7th, 8th or 9th innings..
    in my experience this has happened more often than being behind, and then rescued by the late rally. (exhilarating, but rare)

    there are simply too many unknown variables that occur (for my taste) between the 5th and 9th innings..
    i have tried.. and either:

    1) i can't figure it out.. period.
    2) or.. i have not devoted enough time yet to do so (which i am unwilling to do)

    IF i feel very, very strongly about a game, i can go max 1st Five and then a smaller wager on the entire Game..

    but usually, a modest wager on 1st Five will suffice..
    i am not trying to break the bank, and i generally feel that is a bad practice anyways ,
    and should not be held in the mind as an actual objective (that is for the movies, really).

    Money: i tend to do best with the Run Line..
    i have found that many times the Favorites can afford the –0.5 Run..
    and the Underdogs can use the +0.5 Run

    i hope i do not lead anyone astray and I wish everybody good luck.. ®



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    80% of my plays are 1st five innings (both RL and ML)

    reasons include having to deal with bullpens, a full 9 inning game, and extra innings

    i will be following

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    PS> and please disregard any extra 'asterisks' that show up..

    i am not trying to be cute or designate a play as having greater value

    it simply started some months ago after i thoroughly cleaned my key
    (around all the edges and sides of the individual keys). and the brand new
    Mac keyboards are incompatible with the operating system i am running..

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    Quote Originally Posted by baazigar View Post
    80% of my plays are 1st five innings (both RL and ML)

    reasons include having to deal with bullpens, a full 9 inning game, and extra innings

    i will be following
    i agree. Bazz, i play pretty much the same way, GL
    Last edited by Ratzz; 06-03-13 at 03:27 PM.

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    Good luck Ratzz. I'll follow you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mentorUS View Post
    Good luck Ratzz. I'll follow you.
    thank you, Mentor.. hope all good.. i recommend to anyone, be wary of any capper until he has thoroughly proved himself. (66% min)

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    Monday, June 3rd, 2013

    Pittsburgh/Burnett +0.5 Runs (-135)
    1st Five Innings.

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    Wed, June 5th, 2013

    Tampa/Cobb +0.5 Runs (-125)
    1st Five Innings.

    Thread Record 0-1

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    Thurs, June 6th, 2013

    Texas/Holland (+100)
    1st Five Innings.

    Thread Record 1-1

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    Thurs, June 6th, 2013

    NY Mets/Marcum +0.5 Run (+110)
    1st Five Innings.

    STL/Miller -0.5 Run (-140)
    1st Five Innings.

    Thread Record 1-1

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    Thurs, June 6th, 2013

    MIN/Pelfrey +0.5 Runs (-115)
    1st Five Innings.

    Thread Record 1-1

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    Thurs, June 6th, 2013

    SD/Cashner +0.5 Runs (-120)
    1st Five Innings.

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    Good luck Ratzz, I agree on some of your FF observations. Bullpens have become quite complex these days and one's model really needs a good daily grasp of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by italianbandit View Post
    Good luck Ratzz, I agree on some of your FF observations. Bullpens have become quite complex these days and one's model really needs a good daily grasp of them.
    It's not just that they're complex -- it's that managers baby their starters and overuse their relievers despite their ineffectiveness for the most part. I've never seen anything like it in sports, where teams take out the better players because of some arbitrary pitch count that has for some reason become the bible for most ballclubs. It's insanity and groupthink at its worst.

    Can you imagine if Gibson or Koufax or Cy Young were limited to 100 pitches per start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by italianbandit View Post
    Good luck Ratzz, I agree on some of your FF observations. Bullpens have become quite complex these days and one's model really needs a good daily grasp of them.
    Thank you, Bandit.
    Amen to that. Bullpen management... to me, from manager to manager– it seems like i would need a chart of what any particular manager drank how many beers the previous evening.. lol.. real head-scratchers..*

    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    It's not just that they're complex -- it's that managers baby their starters and overuse their relievers despite their ineffectiveness for the most part. I've never seen anything like it in sports, where teams take out the better players because of some arbitrary pitch count that has for some reason become the bible for most ballclubs. It's insanity and groupthink at its worst.

    Can you imagine if Gibson or Koufax or Cy Young were limited to 100 pitches per start?
    i agree it's insanity, Dr. No
    i finally gave up.. to many variables.. managers put in their absolute worst guy in, when they need
    just 6 outs to win..

    i only go Game now, when my figures point to overall better record.. then maybe i'll indulge in a (-1.5 Runs)
    or go large.. but i consider 1st Five to be amongst the safest wagers out there.

    and *get lucky on them too sometimes.. the scores often change dramatically after the 6th innings. Weird.
    sticking with them for now.

    cheers guys, and GL*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratzz View Post
    Thurs, June 6th, 2013

    Texas/Holland (+100)
    1st Five Innings. (W)
    *
    NY Mets/Marcum +0.5 Run (+110)
    1st Five Innings. (ppd.)

    STL/Miller -0.5 Run (-140)
    1st Five Innings.*(W)
    *
    MIN/Pelfrey +0.5 Runs (-115)
    1st Five Innings.*(W)
    *
    SD/Cashner +0.5 Runs (-120)
    1st Five Innings.*(W)
    Update: Thursday, June 6th,

    4-0 and a postponed game

    Thread Record 5-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratzz View Post
    Update: Thursday, June 6th,

    4-0 and a postponed game

    Thread Record 5-1
    Good job Ratzz

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    Quote Originally Posted by mentorUS View Post
    Good job Ratzz
    Thank you, Mentor.. i hope all going well and you are killing the books.. cheers!

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    Fri, June 7th, 2013

    CLE/Jimenez +0.5 Runs (+125)
    1st Five Innings

    Thread Record 5-1

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    Fri, June 7th, 2013

    SAN DIEGO/Volquez +0.5 Runs (-110)
    1st Five Innings

    Thread Record 5-1

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    Sun, June 9th, 2013

    BALTIMORE/Tillman +0.5 Runs (-120)
    1st Five Innings

    hoping Moore makes like a girl
    (and puts out a bit more, now that he is no longer a virgin).

    We'll see



    Thread Record 5-3

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    Nice start Ratzz, GL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by italianbandit View Post
    Nice start Ratzz, GL.
    Thank you, Bandit..

    i had to retool my strat a little bit after the 2 Ls on Friday..
    if i have a winless day, i stop everytrhing and try to figure out what went wrong..

    hope it holds up, GL on your picks whatever you go with

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    Sun, June 9th, 2013

    Pittsburgh @ Chicago*UNDER 4.5 Runs (+100)
    1st Five Innings


    i think Locke and Jackson may keep it low, let's see

    Thread Record 5-3

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    Will be following

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    Sun, June 9th, 2013

    CINCINNATI/Arroyo*+0.5 Runs (-140)
    1st Five Innings

    REDS might get going early on SNB..

    Thread Record 7-3

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    okay, nice 5th inning,*onto tomorrow..


    what a grind MLB is.. every day feels like a hundred games
    Last edited by Ratzz; 06-09-13 at 11:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratzz View Post
    Sun, June 9th, 2013

    BALTIMORE/Tillman +0.5 Runs (-120) (W)
    1st Five Innings

    Pittsburgh @ Chicago*UNDER 4.5 Runs (+100)*(W)
    1st Five Innings

    CINCINNATI/Arroyo*+0.5 Runs (-140)*(W)
    1st Five Innings
    3-0 for Sunday 9th of June,
    hope i stay good tomorrow*

    Thread Record 8-3

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    Good stuff! Didn't see your play for cincy or I would have jumped shipped

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    seems interesting...I will keep an eye...

    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift_knob View Post
    Good stuff! Didn't see your play for cincy or I would have jumped shipped
    Quote Originally Posted by Avala7ch3 View Post
    seems interesting...I will keep an eye...

    GL
    excellent, guys.. hope we keep it rolling..





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    Mon, June 10th, 2013

    MIAMI/Nolasco*+0.5 Runs (-150)
    1st Five Innings

    TAMPA BAY/Cobb*(-150)
    1st Five Innings

    Thread Record 8-3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratzz View Post
    Mon, June 10th, 2013

    MIAMI/Nolasco*+0.5 Runs (-150) (L)
    1st Five Innings

    TAMPA BAY/Cobb*(-150) (L)
    1st Five Innings


    Thread Record 8-3
    MLB is wild.. the very same strat and moves one night yield the opposite result the next..
    this alternates every night it seems..*maybe that's the strat

    Thread Record 8-5

    (.615) is not worth the time.. let's see

    if i can't pick this up, i will put the time elsewhere. Life is very short

    *

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    Tues, June 11th, 2013

    LAA/Vargas*(+100)
    1st Five Innings

    Thread Record 8-5

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    Wed, June 12th, 2013

    SAN DIEGO/Volquez*(+110)
    1st Five Innings

    Thread Record 9-5

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