1. 05-20-13 10:38 PM #1
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    Paul Konerko: most underrated player in any sport of all time?

    Forum dead, figured I'd start a thread that actually might have some intellectual debate...

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  2. 05-20-13 10:41 PM #2
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    No.

    Scottie Pippen.

    Bernie Williams.

    Tim Duncan.
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  3. 05-20-13 10:41 PM #3
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    great leader on the field and in the clubhouse

    cant get a fastball by the guy but very weak on other pitches

    having a terrible year so far, age catching up
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  4. 05-20-13 10:45 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    No.

    Scottie Pippen.

    Bernie Williams.

    Tim Duncan.
    bernie Williams is a very nice choice...

    anyone who underrates Duncan should be shot...

    pippen overrated if anything ...
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  5. 05-20-13 10:58 PM #5
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    I'll say Frank Thomas is a nod ahead of him for being underrated. One of 9 players all time to hit .300 and 500 long balls and one of 6 to hit those 500 dingers and been walked 1600 times. That strike shortened season he was on pace, along with Bagwell, for an all-time great season.

    Need to consider Bagwell and Mel Ott on that list as well although Ott played in a different period, you just don't hear the guy mentioned, at all.
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  6. 05-20-13 10:59 PM #6
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    there was a thread earlier today asking who my "automatic out" was. I put Konerko... has he ever done anything but ground out?
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  7. 05-20-13 10:59 PM #7
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    kareem

    second best player ever and no one rates him that way that i've seen (lebron doesnt qualify yet)...youll see him top 5 or top 10 but he's hands down the second best ever

    people remember the old man and forget how fukkin amazing he was....example: wasnt a great defender at the end of his career but was bill russell great early in his career

    for christs sake the gueye is 36th all time in assists
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  8. 05-20-13 11:02 PM #8
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    If you're gonna mention bagwell, gotta mention biggio...

    hey don't look now, but actual sports topics are being discussed...
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  9. 05-20-13 11:11 PM #9
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    Most underated all time was bryan trottier
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  10. 05-20-13 11:13 PM #10
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    Tim Hudson or Tim Duncan. Hudson is 201-107 in his career and is only a 3x all star
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  11. 05-20-13 11:15 PM #11
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    Only difference is biggio should and better damn well get in on first ballet. Bagwell I thought should have but didn't. Always said that if either played for a team like the Yankees/red sox/dodgers ect. They'd be on a short list for best players of this generation and a longer but still short list of best all time
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  12. 05-20-13 11:17 PM #12
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  13. 05-20-13 11:18 PM #13
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  14. 05-20-13 11:19 PM #14
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  17. 05-20-13 11:23 PM #17
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  18. 05-20-13 11:24 PM #18
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    Dave Stewart with his 4 straight 20 win seasons
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  19. 05-20-13 11:41 PM #19
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    al oliver

    most posters here never heard of him

    unreal
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  20. 05-20-13 11:45 PM #20
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    nah definitely not.

    i would say JT snow
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  21. 05-20-13 11:53 PM #21
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    I have Paul Konerko on my underrated list at #8 - right between Jim Thome and Demi Lovato.
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  22. 05-20-13 11:55 PM #22
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    Ricky Henderson

    Best player on one of the best lineups ever... Never implicated as a juicer... (as far as I know)

    1990: .325AVG .439OBP 28HR's 65SB's 119Run's

    Sure he had a bunch of juicers behind him, but is still the only guy I have ever seen that can take over a game by himself. Walk him in his prime and he was on second by the second pitch... On third if the next guy seen 5-6 pitches in most cases...

    Top 10 player of all time no question...
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  23. 05-21-13 12:00 AM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    Forum dead, figured I'd start a thread that actually might have some intellectual debate...

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    fkkkin guy can't bat his weight
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  24. 05-21-13 12:06 AM #24
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    Art Monk, Steve Yzerman of the Red Wings,Goose Gossage, Amerie......now these are underrated performers.
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  25. 05-21-13 12:18 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    No.

    Scottie Pippen.

    Bernie Williams.

    Tim Duncan.
    What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhippo View Post
    I'll say Frank Thomas is a nod ahead of him for being underrated. One of 9 players all time to hit .300 and 500 long balls and one of 6 to hit those 500 dingers and been walked 1600 times. That strike shortened season he was on pace, along with Bagwell, for an all-time great season.
    Good call on the Big Hurt.
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  27. 05-21-13 02:10 AM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhippo View Post
    I'll say Frank Thomas is a nod ahead of him for being underrated. One of 9 players all time to hit .300 and 500 long balls and one of 6 to hit those 500 dingers and been walked 1600 times. That strike shortened season he was on pace, along with Bagwell, for an all-time great season.
    I once rolled a baseball to Big Frank from 20 feet away. He fell on his face reaching to catch the ball in front of him. Rolled around on the ground for 20 seconds. Finally got the dead ball in his hand and proceeded to throw it into the upper deck above the 1st base dugout.
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  28. 05-21-13 03:09 AM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by I/O View Post
    I once rolled a baseball to Big Frank from 20 feet away. He fell on his face reaching to catch the ball in front of him. Rolled around on the ground for 20 seconds. Finally got the dead ball in his hand and proceeded to throw it into the upper deck above the 1st base dugout.
    I've dropped some great acid and seen the same hallucination.

    Glad to see we're riding the same wave.
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  29. 05-21-13 03:19 AM #29
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  32. 05-21-13 06:51 AM #32
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    Jordan couldn't win without Pippen. Some regard him as just a great defender, guy is a top 50 player of all time and never gets the credit bc MJ

    Manny Ramirez.

    Michael Brantley - current

    Michael young
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  33. 05-21-13 07:28 AM #33
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    manny ramirez? lol really deemer.. cmon bro u know better ..

    you know who is underrated ..

    jim edmonds 2,011 G; .284/.376/.527; 393 HR; 1,199 RBI; 1,949 H; 1,251 R; 67-for-117 SB

    omar vizquel 2,963 G; .272/.336/.352; 80 HR; 950 RBI; 404-for-571 SB ... 11 gold gloves

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    and so many hockey players but half this forum wont even know who they are
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  34. 05-21-13 08:24 AM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhippo View Post
    Only difference is biggio should and better damn well get in on first ballet. Bagwell I thought should have but didn't. Always said that if either played for a team like the Yankees/red sox/dodgers ect. They'd be on a short list for best players of this generation and a longer but still short list of best all time
    Agreed, but Biggio already didn't get in on his first ballot, and to my knowledge he was never in the ballet.

    In response to the Bernie mention...no Yankee has ever been underrated.
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