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    OhMyEli
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    Why is Bucholz only -200 at home against an 0-4 pitcher?

    Why is this not juiced up around -275 or so?

    I don't see anything out of the ordinary considering the books know they will make tons on the Sox no matter what. Explanation?

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    They will make sure his hair is dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWays View Post
    They will make sure his hair is dry.
    Exactly 30+ pitches and down 2 runs, which could have easily been 5 in the first inning.


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    thanks Boston

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    And what did Morneau and Mauer do in the first?
    I got .5* Minny at +180



    MINNESOTA TWINS CAREER STATISTICS VS. CLAY BUCHHOLZ
    BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
    Jamey Carroll 6 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 .167 .444 .167 .611
    Ryan Doumit 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333 .333 .333 .667
    Brian Dozier 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .333 .333 .333 .667
    Eduardo Escobar 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Darin Mastroianni 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 .333 .333 .667 1.000
    Joe Mauer 10 3 1 0 0 1 2 0 .300 .417 .400 .817
    Justin Morneau 14 7 0 0 0 1 0 2 .500 .500 .500 1.000
    Chris Parmelee 2 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .500 .667 .500 1.167
    Trevor Plouffe 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Josh Willingham 3 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 .667 .667 1.000 1.667
    Totals 52 17 3 0 0 2 5 6 .327 .397 .385 .781

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    Quote Originally Posted by forthewin View Post
    Exactly 30+ pitches and down 2 runs, which could have easily been 5 in the first inning.

    I didn't know baseball games concluded @ Top 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ses_d View Post
    thanks Boston
    Did you lay -200?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iQon View Post
    I didn't know baseball games concluded @ Top 1.
    Yesterday's Tiger game did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iQon View Post
    I didn't know baseball games concluded @ Top 1.
    I never implied who was going to win the game. The point is under such inexplicably heavily juiced odds against a dangerous hitting Twins team, Buchholz is getting worked more than he has in any of his other starts this season. He could also very well have been affected by Jack Morris "spitball" remarks. He is starting to settle down but he definitely was getting hit hard and early and there is no reason to not see value in the Twins @ +180.







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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Yesterday's Tiger game did.
    Right. Along with the Marlins @+170 and The Rays @+104

    Regardless of the outcome Twins @+180 is good value pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forthewin View Post
    Right. Along with the Marlins @+170 and The Rays @+104

    Regardless of the outcome Twins @+180 is good value pick.
    I saw the line go from +174 to +180 five minutes before first pitch, threw a small 1/2 unit on them because of the way the meat of the order hits Clay.

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    Luckily did not play this, knew something was up at that price. I wouldn't have been surprised to see -300.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhMyEli View Post
    Luckily did not play this, knew something was up at that price. I wouldn't have been surprised to see -300.
    Also, the Tigers were -220 vs the Twins less than a week ago... The final score? Tigers 2 - Twins 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhMyEli View Post
    Luckily did not play this, knew something was up at that price. I wouldn't have been surprised to see -300.
    I believe the biggest price ever at Fenway was Pedro at -270

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I believe the biggest price ever at Fenway was Pedro at -270
    i seen pedro -400 before,highest juice i ever seen,im pretty sure it was vs det around 2000-2001....alot of big spreads back then

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    Sox have a golden chance right here, down 4-2 first and second, no outs.

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    That was a good game. Stephen Drew played his best game this season.

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