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    John Morrison 2013 MLB Thread

    Spring training is underway, time to start the baseball talk. Welcome back everyone, hopefully Hagball52 is up for another season of JM plays.
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    system comparison

    there's a similar system. the shutoutsystem: http://www.shutoutsystem.com it has a higher win rate, so if you look vs morrisons system it has mostly 3x so much wins with same losses. i don't know the system really but hope someone knows that system and can explain which is better to use.
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    any kind of expectation from this spring training..

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    Checking in.

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    Does anyone play the totals in MLB? I'm curious as how the lines are... I've been looking at the odds from covers.com and it only gives (I'm assuming) the winning odds: Example Over 9.5 -125. Over is the winning bet and you had to lay 125 to win 100. Well, what if I played the Under? Anyone have an idea how I can get the LOSING odds in totals? I got an idea for a small system O/U play but I need the losing odds since it's not straight -110 or-105. Any help appreciated. Also, what's the link to last year's thread, so I can read up on the plays.

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    Found last years thread. Post 111 is the JM from Hagball.

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/baseball-b...thread-p3.html

    As far as Ov/Un goes, my book for NHL lines is based on -110 where as Ov is -110, so is Un. Ov at -105, Un would be -115...etc. I'm going with that on my backtest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn View Post
    Does anyone play the totals in MLB? I'm curious as how the lines are... I've been looking at the odds from covers.com and it only gives (I'm assuming) the winning odds: Example Over 9.5 -125. Over is the winning bet and you had to lay 125 to win 100. Well, what if I played the Under? Anyone have an idea how I can get the LOSING odds in totals? I got an idea for a small system O/U play but I need the losing odds since it's not straight -110 or-105. Any help appreciated. Also, what's the link to last year's thread, so I can read up on the plays.
    I am determined to create an O/U system this year for MLB. Don't know what, but it will be something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn View Post
    Does anyone play the totals in MLB? I'm curious as how the lines are... I've been looking at the odds from covers.com and it only gives (I'm assuming) the winning odds: Example Over 9.5 -125. Over is the winning bet and you had to lay 125 to win 100. Well, what if I played the Under? Anyone have an idea how I can get the LOSING odds in totals? I got an idea for a small system O/U play but I need the losing odds since it's not straight -110 or-105. Any help appreciated. Also, what's the link to last year's thread, so I can read up on the plays.
    -125 would equate to a +105 on the opposite side in your typical -110/-110 structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Spring training is underway, time to start the baseball talk. Welcome back everyone, hopefully Hagball52 is up for another season of JM plays.
    At this time I'm planning on it. I'll definitely get it started but something may came up later this year that could make me have to leave it but at least I will have the system up and running and someone can take it and go with it. I believe whoever manages one of these threads should post it timely and fully and I won't do it it if that's the not the case. Sometime in March I'll get the rules posted and last years results. Looking forward to a profitable year in MLB. I will talk more later on how I'm going to play it. This will be my 5th season with JM MLB and I've learned a lot so I'm going to tweak my own style with this system. I will post the JM MLB system strictly by JM's rules and show the results for all versions. We will mention the filters but still make the plays because as you all know by now that JM does not pull out the filter rule until after the series has lost. More later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagball52 View Post
    At this time I'm planning on it. I'll definitely get it started but something may came up later this year that could make me have to leave it but at least I will have the system up and running and someone can take it and go with it. I believe whoever manages one of these threads should post it timely and fully and I won't do it it if that's the not the case. Sometime in March I'll get the rules posted and last years results. Looking forward to a profitable year in MLB. I will talk more later on how I'm going to play it. This will be my 5th season with JM MLB and I've learned a lot so I'm going to tweak my own style with this system. I will post the JM MLB system strictly by JM's rules and show the results for all versions. We will mention the filters but still make the plays because as you all know by now that JM does not pull out the filter rule until after the series has lost. More later.
    Thanks, whatever you can do will be appreciated by all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bateeeman22 View Post
    there's a similar system. the shutoutsystem: http://www.shutoutsystem.com it has a higher win rate, so if you look vs morrisons system it has mostly 3x so much wins with same losses. i don't know the system really but hope someone knows that system and can explain which is better to use.
    Haha I can't believe the the shutout system is for sale. This system has been tracked on here for the past 4 or so years. I can't remember who but someone here mentioned that their friend might of figured out a new system and the rest is history. The shutout system is a 6 game chase. You need a large bank roll and it is highly recommended that you labby. Just search shutout system and you can read all about it

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    Wallco,
    Is your new baseball system ready for this season? If I can remember right, you've been brewing something up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyDiamond View Post
    Wallco,
    Is your new baseball system ready for this season? If I can remember right, you've been brewing something up?
    Still brewing. This is no doubt the toughest sport to find a consistent system. Close on a couple, but need to find a few filters. There always seems to be one horrible year, which kind of puts a damper on it, even though that one year doesn't even come close to putting the systems negative for the whole duration of the backtest. I already went through a rough tryout with MLB Plu$$. I want to be a little more certain the next time around. The real kick in the ass is had I not added the deadly v2 portion to the MLB Plu$$ system half way through the year, we would have ended around even for that season. I have not killed that one completely, because all backtests showed substantial profit in previous years.

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    Last baseball season was rough - hopefully this season's a lot better

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    The claims are certainly interesting and I have followed it for a few years...the fact that alludes me is the high risk that some new players put themselves at with relation to the size of their bankroll..I am in for the year....

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    Wallco you lost over 100 units a year or two ago. Will this really be a JM thread or will it just be another front for your losing systems?

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    Guys if you want a real jm thread you better start it yourself. Wallco uses the jm name and just posts his own losing plays and depends on a couple flunkies to list real the plays.

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    Baseball is approaching.
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    I'm ready...this spring training betting is rough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanger View Post
    I'm ready...this spring training betting is rough
    Never tried that, way too risky with all those AAA players in there.

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    Here’s the MLB betting system in detail. As long as you strictly follow my betting guidelines below, you will be winning almost all of your MLB bets.
    In a nutshell, you will be betting that one team is going to win at least one game in either 3 or 4 game series versus an opposing team that has swept them in their most recent series. This is a bet that you will win more than 97% of the time.
    Before I go into detail on how to make the bets, I will go over the money management system. There are only three bet values you should stick to: Bet A; Bet B; and Bet C.

    Bet A = Your beginning bet. You can, for example, set your beginning bet to win $100 when you first start out.
    Bet B = In case Bet A fails, you make bet B to make up for any loss you’ve suffered from Bet A, plus any profit you would have achieved from bet A. So, if your to-win Bet A was $100, your to-win Bet B can be $200.
    Bet C = In case Bet B fails, you make bet C to make up for any loss you’ve suffered from Bet A plus Bet B, plus profit you would have achieved from bet A. So, if your to-win Bet A plus Bet B was $300, your to-win Bet C can be $400.

    If you lose Bet C, you lose the bet. There may be an occasion when you place a “D” bet, but it’s extremely rare. We will talk more on that later.
    However, do not be concerned, because losing a Bet C is something that will almost never happen. Here’s the betting system:

    1. Check the MLB results and mark down any series where one team goes winless versus the opposing team (a sweep)
    2. For the teams that were swept (winless in those series), mark the schedule for their upcoming series versus the same team that swept them previously
    3. On the first day of the rematch between the two teams, as long as the team that was swept previously has an RPI value of no less than .015 than the opposing team, AND the opposing team is not a top-2 RPI team, make a bet for the team that was swept. (Note: The RPI will be explained in greater details in a later section of this manual)
    4. If you lose bet A, make bet B on the next day for the same team
    5. If you lose bet B, make bet C on the next day for the same team

    And keep this in mind: ALWAYS bet on the money line if the team you’re betting on is the favorite to win (shows -1.5 on the run line). ALWAYS bet on the run line (+1.5 runs) if the team you’re betting on is the underdog (shows +1.5 on the run line). You can check to see which team is the favorite or the underdog by looking at the run line in the

    bet lineup. A team showing a +1.5 in the run line means they are the underdog. A team showing a -1.5 in the run line means they are the favorite.
    If you are unfamiliar with betting, below is a screenshot of what you may see on BetUS

    Example#1: Atlanta sweeps Florida in a 3-game series, then sweeps them again in a 2-game series. If they play a 3 game series next time, then that would qualify for a system play on Florida.
    Example#2: Atlanta sweeps Florida in a 3-game series, then goes 1-1 against Florida a 2-game series. If they play a 3 game series next time, then that would not qualify for a system play.

    V2.0 System UPDATE:

    The update here is designed to allow you even more action during the course of the baseball season by increasing your wager on betting opportunities that have an exceptional probability of betting success.
    The change to this new v2.0 system is that you want to increase your stake on the [b] level when these 2 criteria are met:

    The change to this new v2.0 system is that you want to increase your stake on the [b] level when these 2 criteria are met:
    1. The team you’re betting on is playing at home.
    2. The [A] bet that you made resulted in your team losing by 3 or more runs.

    Similarly, you want to increase your stake on the [C] level when these 2 criteria are met:
    1. The team you’re betting on is playing at home.
    2. The [b] bet that you made resulted in your team losing by 3 or more runs.

    Here’s an example of the v2.0 system in action:
    During the 2008 MLB baseball season, the Detroit Tigers played the Minnesota Twins on the road from May 2nd to May 4th and were swept in all 3 games.
    On May 23rd, they began another 3-game series with the Minnesota twins, this time at home. Since the Detroit Tigers fell within the accepted .01 range of RPI disparity with the Minnesota Twins at the time, the series was good to go for betting.

    Yet, on 5/23/08, Detroit lost to Minnesota again on the [A] bet by a score of 4-9. Since Detroit lost by at least 3 points at the [A] level, and since they’re playing at home, this would make the [b] bet to fall under the criteria for betting in the v2.0 MLB system.
    This means that the next day, on May 24th, you should increase your wagering amount by at least two-fold. So, let’s say that you lost $150 on the [A] bet with Detroit. Instead of betting to win $250 (to attain a $100 profit for the series) as you normally would do, you can double up and bet to win $350 (to attain a $200 profit for the series).
    Indeed, the Detroit Tigers came back the next day and completely annihilated Minnesota by their season-record score of 19-3!
    Now, I want to note to you that you should of course still make all the bets according to the v1.0 system. However, when a situation arises that meets the criteria of the v2.0 betting system, you should then increase your wager on that betting level by at least twice or more.

    V3.0 System UPDATE:

    The update here is designed to allow you even more betting opportunities during the course of the baseball season by taking advantage of the unofficial plays that fall outside of the acceptable level of RPI difference between the two teams.
    The addition to this new v3.0 system is that you want to make a wager for the team that previously did the sweep (NOT the team that was swept previously!) if the following 2 criteria are met:

    1. The team that they swept previously came back and beat them on the very first game of their rematch series.
    2. They have an RPI of at least .025 or higher than their opponent.
    If your bet loses, you would go on and make a [b] bet for the same team the next day. Most of the v3.0 bets will involve betting on a 2-game series. However, in some rare cases you can also make a [C] bet if both your [A] and [b] bet lose, and the series rematch is a 4-game series allowing you an extra final game to make a [C] wager.
    Remember, the same betting rules apply: Always bet on the money line if the team you’re betting on is the favorite to win. Always bet on the run line (+1.5 runs) if the team you’re betting on is the underdog. You can check to see which team is the favorite or the underdog by looking at the run line in the bet lineup. A team showing a +1.5 in the

    Here’s an example of the v3.0 system in action:
    During the 2008 MLB baseball season, the Boston Red Sox played the Kansas City Royals from May 19th to May 22nd and swept them in the entire series.
    On August 4th, Boston played Kansas City again in a 3-game series. At this time during the season, Boston's RPI was at least .025 higher than Kansas City, making the series fall outside of the original v1.0 system's betting criteria for Kansas City. However, Kansas City ended up winning the first game of the series on August 4th.
    Since Boston was the team that swept Kansas City previously, and their RPI is at least .025 higher than Kansas City, the fact that Kansas City came back and won the first game vs. Boston make the series eligible for play under the v3.0 MLB system.
    Therefore, on August 5th, you would put down an [A] bet for Boston to beat Kansas City. Boston ended up winning the game. At this point you've won the betting series, and there's no need to make any more wagers for either team.
    IF Boston had lost to Kansas City again on August 5th, then you would need to place a [b] bet for Boston again on August 6th when they play Kansas City in the final game.
    There are no possible [C] bets in this series.



    RPI Info: http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/rpi
    History: covers.com/[/QUOTE]

    Ignore the previous 2 posts. Just wanted to get an easy post # up there for reference to the rules. Just a few more weeks and back to baseball everyone.
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    JM MLB System
    2012 Official season series record 27-2 (v1)
    (A) 15-14

    (B) 5-9
    (C) 5-4
    (D) 2-0

    V2 plays 3-7

    V3 system 15-4

    Unofficial series
    85-7
    (A) 56-36
    (B) 22-14
    (C) 7-7
    (D) 0-1
    V2 plays 10-10

    JM 2012 MLB season from start to end.

    04/16 ATL v NYM Win (B) 04/17 U v2
    04/24 KAN @ CLE Win (A) U
    04/30 BAL @ NYY Win (A) O
    04/30 KAN @ DET Cancelled (rain)
    05/07 DET @ SEA Win (B) 05/08 O
    05/07 MIN v LAA Win (B) 05/08 U v2
    05/08 NYY v TAM Win (A) U
    05/11 SFO @ ARI Win (B) 05/12 O
    05/11 MIA v NYM Win (A) U
    05/21 BOS @ BAL Win (A) U
    05/24 SFO @ MIA Win (A) O
    05/28 BOS v DET Win (A) O
    05/28 TOR v BAL Win (A) U
    05/28 PHI @ NYM Win (A) U
    05/28 STL @ ATL Win (A) U
    06/01 SEA @ CHW Win (B) 06/02 U
    06/01 COL v LAD Win (A) U
    06/01 ATL @ WAS Cancelled (rain)
    06/04 SEA @ LAA Win (A) O
    06/05 DET v CLE Win [C] 06/07 O v2
    06/15 MIA @ TAM Win (B) 06/16 U
    06/18 CHC @ CHW Win (A) U
    06/18 CLE v CIN Win (A) U
    06/18 ATL @ NYY Win (B) 06/19 U
    06/22 SEA @ SDG Win (B) 06/23 O
    06/22 NYM v NYY Win (A) U
    06/29 CHC v HOU Win (A) U
    07/02 KAN @ TOR Win (A) U
    07/02 MIN @ DET Win (A) U
    07/06 MIN @ TEX Win (A) U
    07/13 WAS @ MIA Win (A) O
    07/13 OAK @ MIN Win (A) O
    07/13 CHC v ARI Win (A) U
    07/16 MIN v BAL Win (A) U
    07/16 PHI @ LAD Win (A) U
    07/17 CHC v MIA Win (B) 07/18 U v2
    07/19 OAK v NYY Win (A) U
    07/20 SEA @ TAM Win (A) U
    07/23 STL v LAD Win (B) 07/24 O
    07/23 CHC @ PIT Win (A) U
    07/23 MIA v ATL Win (A) U
    07/26 HOU v PIT Win (B) 07/27 U
    07/27 LAA v TAM Win (A) O
    07/27 SDG @ MIA Win (A) U
    07/27 LAD @ SFO Win (A) O
    07/27 TEX v CHW Win [C] 07/29 O v2**1
    07/27 PHI @ ATL Win (B) 07/28 U
    07/27 CHC v STL Win (B) 07/28 U v2
    07/30 MIN v CHW Win (A) U
    08/02 MIN @ BOS Win (A) U
    08/06 SDG v CHC Win (A) O
    08/06 MIL v CIN Win (A) U
    08/06 PHI v ATL Win (B) U v2
    08/06 CLE v MIN Win [C] 08/08 O**2
    08/10 NYM v ATL Win [C] 08/12 U v2**3
    08/10 TOR v NYY Win [C] 08/12 U v2**3
    08/10 HOU v MIL Win (A) U
    08/10 COL @ SFO Win (A) U
    08/13 PIT v LAD Win (D) O 08/16 v2**4
    08/13 PHI @ MIA Win (A) O
    08/13 SFO v WAS Win (B) U 08/14
    08/13 HOU @CHC Win (B) U 08/14
    08/14 ARI @ STL Win [C] O 08/16
    08/14 NYM @ CIN Win [C] U 08/16
    08/16 MIL v PHI Win (A) O
    08/17 TOR v TEX Win (A) U
    08/17 HOU v ARI Loss [C] U 08/19 v2 **5
    08/17 NYM @ WAS Win (B) U 08/18
    08/20 TAM v KAN Win (A) O
    08/20 MIN @ OAK Win (A) U
    08/20 SFO @ LAD Win (A) O
    08/24 NYM v HOU Win (B) O 08/25
    08/24 BAL v TOR Win (A) O
    08/24 CLE v NYY Win (B) U 08/25
    08/24 ARI v SDG Loss [C] O 08/26 v2**6
    08/24 STL @ CIN Win (A) U
    08/27 CLE v OAK Loss [D] U 08/30 v2**7
    08/27 MIN v SEA Win (A) U
    08/27 CHC v MIL Win [D] O 08/30 **8
    08/28 KAN v DET Win (A) U
    08/28 HOU v SFO Win (A) U
    08/28 BOS @ LAA Win (A) O
    08/30 LAD v ARI Win [C] O 09/01
    08/30 TOR v TAM Win (A) U
    08/31 CHC v SFO Win (A) U
    08/31 BOS @ OAK Loss [C] U 09/02
    08/31 CHW @ DET Loss [C] O 09/02
    08/31 HOU v CIN Win (B) U 09/01 v2
    09/03 COL @ ATL Win (B) U 09/04
    09/03 CLE @ DET Win (A) U
    09/07 BOS v TOR Loss [C] U 09/09 * v2
    09/07 MIL @ STL Win (A) U
    09/07 CHW v KAN Win (B) U 09/08 *
    09/07 LAD @ SFO Win (B) U 09/08 *
    09/07 ARI @ SDG Win (A) U *
    09/10 MIL v ATL Win (A) U
    09/10 SDG v STL Win (A) U
    09/10 CHW v DET Win (A) U *
    09/10 OAK @ LAA Win (A) U *
    09/11 TOR v SEA Win [C] U 09/13 *
    09/14 PIT @ CHC Win (B) U 09/15 *
    09/14 BOS @ TOR Win (A) U *
    09/17 SEA v BAL Loss [C] U 09/19 **9
    09/18 WAS v LAD Win (A) U 09/19 *
    09/18 HOU @ STL Win [C] U 09/20
    09/18 PIT v MIL Loss [C] U 09/20 **10 *
    09/21 NYY v OAK Win (A) U *
    09/21 CLE @ KAN Win [C] U 09/23*
    09/21 MIA @ NYM Win (B) U 09/22*
    09/24 CLE @ CHW Win (A) U
    09/24 DET v KAN Win (A) U *
    09/24 HOU v STL Win [C] U 09/26 v2 **11
    09/25 CIN v MIL Win (A) U *
    09/25 WAS @ PHI Win (B) U 09/26 *
    09/27 TAM @ CHW Win (A) U *
    09/28 ARI v CHC Win (A) U *
    09/28 NYM @ ATL Win (A) U
    09/28 SEA @ OAK Loss [C] U 09/30
    09/28 MIA v PHI Win (A) U
    09/28 PIT v CIN Win (A) U
    10/01 TAM v BAL Win (A) U *
    10/01 MIA v NYM Win (A) U *
    10/01 COL @ ARI Win (A) U
    10/01 KAN v DET Win (B) U

    * All of these series would have been official if played before Sept. 1st

    **1 v2 loss 07/28
    **2 v2 loss 08/07
    **3 v2 loss 08/11
    **4 v2 loss 08/15
    **5 v2 loss 08/19
    **6 v2 loss 08/25 & 08/26
    **7 v2 loss 08/28, 08/29 & 08/30
    **8 v2 loss 08/28 & 08/29
    **9 v2 loss 09/18
    **10 v2 loss 09/19
    **11 v2 loss 09/25


    V3 Plays
    05/12 NYM @ MIA Win (A)
    05/22 BAL v BOS Win (A)
    06/02 LAD @ COL Win (A)
    06/19 CHW v CHC Win (B) 06/20
    06/23 NYY @ NYM Win (A)
    07/07 TEX v MIN Win (A)
    07/17 BAL @ MIN Win (A)
    07/20 NYY @ OAK Loss [C] 07/22
    07/24 PIT v CHC Win (B) 07/25
    07/24 ATL @ MIA Win (A)
    08/07 CIN @ MIL Loss (B) 08/08
    08/11 MIL @ HOU Win (B) 08/12
    08/11 SFO v COL Win (A)
    08/21 OAK v MIN Win (A)
    08/29 DET @ KAN Loss (B) 08/30
    09/01 SFO @ CHC Win (A)
    09/04 DET v CLE Win (B) 09/05
    09/11 ATL @ MIL Loss (B) 09/12
    09/29 ATL v NYM Win (A)

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    This was my recap from last season. In the near future I will post my plans for how I'm going to play the JM MLB system this year.


    JM MLB System
    (Morrison's Flagship system)

    2012 Official season series record 27-2 (v1) (93.1%)
    (A) 15-14 (51.7%)

    (B) 5-9 (35.7%)
    (C) 5-4 (55.7%)
    (D) 2-0 (100%)


    27-2 units won/loss
    -08/24 ARI v SDG lost 17.7 units regular
    - lost 23.4 units v2
    -08/31 CHW @ DET lost 16.5 units

    Observations
    -Either way you played this system you would have lost money.

    -I did include the last series because JM sent it out official until the (C) bet and then put his disclaimer on it.

    -If you stopped playing by August 31st you would have been 26-1 and would have made a small profit even with playing the v2.

    -If you would have stopped by the middle (15th) of August you would have been 17-0 and add in the 3 winning v2 plays you could have been 20-0

    -There were only 2 official run line wins through August

    -There were no alternate run lines needed to win a series

    -All official bets won on the money line until Agust 28th

    -Only one official series needed a run line win

    -Don't see any advantage to playing this system outside of the way it was designed. Someone earlier mentioned only playing the (C) bets. Well look where that would have gotten you.

    Recommendation
    -Don't quit your day job

    -From what I have seen in the past the official system starts to get a little shaky around the middle of August instead of the end where Morrison stops. I would recommend playing the official system until the middle of August.


    V2
    plays 3-7
    Observations
    -There were only 6 series with v2 plays
    -Only 3 series won on a v2 play
    -2 won without a v2 on the final play
    -1 lost with 2 v2 plays
    -I'm not considering the v2 in the unofficial plays. Morrison did not use it for the unofficial plays.
    -From what we experienced this year is that all the v2 really does is increase risk with no real assurance of a win.
    -The record speaks for itself

    Recommendation
    -I know we had a double v2 loss this year but that is the only way I see to play it. When it goes to a (C) bet and is a double v2 play I believe it is a very strong play.

    V3 system 15-4
    (Morrison claims this is the closest thing to perfection)

    Total units lost (31.6)
    Observations
    -If you go back a couple of posts you will see that every v3 loss was by a visiting team.
    -If you would have played home teams only you would have gone 8-0
    -There aren't enough plays for this system to stand on its own.

    Recommendation
    -In the future play only the home teams on v3 plays
    -Consider increasing you unit size when its only a 2 bet series
    -If its a 3 bet series consider skipping the first bet (i.e. NYY/OAK series)

    Unofficial series
    85-7 (92.4%)
    (A) 56-36 (61%)
    (B) 22-14 (61%)
    (C) 7-7 (50%)
    (D) 0-1 (0%)

    Units lost
    08/17 HOU/ARI -7.4
    08/27 CLE/OAK -36.3
    08/31 BOS/OAK -14.0
    09/07 BOS/TOR -12.6
    09/17 SEA/BAL -13.0
    09/18 PIT/MIL -17.2
    09/28 SEA/OAK -10.3
    Total units lost (110.8)

    Observations
    -This is the total unofficial from beginning to end
    -If you would have stopped by 08/31 the record was 52-2 and your unit lost would have been -43.7. Once again a small profit.
    -If you would have stopped by August 15th your record would have been 42-0. That would have been a really nice profit.
    -There were 3 run line wins up to 07/27
    -All unofficial bets won on the money line until 07/27
    -There were 11 run line wins and 7 eventually won on the money line
    -There were 6 run line wins through August and only 2 were needed
    -I did some additional work with this system because there are so many plays.

    Recommendations
    -It's hard to have a distinct recommendation other than you can tweak this a little bit. I'll post some results below.
    -The system was flawless until the middle of August but I know that that is not always the case so I recommend playing it up until the middle of August at a reduced unit size even though it outperformed the official system to that point.

    Additional Info.
    I took the whole season and went back to day one and checked all of the closing lines on every game of every series on only the (A) and (B) bets. I was looking at just flat betting all of the (A) and (B) bets. No chase and no double up. You just straight bet the first 2 games of each series.The majority of the bets are won at the first 2 levels and the (C) bet record is not very good. I broke it down month by month and also at the middle of August. I combined April and May and also Sept. and Oct. because of so few plays.

    APR/MAY +8.65 units
    JUNE +4.35 units
    JULY +11.28 units
    AUGUST 15 - 4.90 units
    AUGUST 31 - 9.32 units
    SEPTEMBER + 4.28 nits
    _____________________
    TOTAL +9.44 units

    As I was going through the season I was looking for other ways to maximize profit of of this system because as you all can see what a (C) or (D) bet loss does to your bankroll. The amounts become staggering at the third and fourth level. I still have some more tests to run but I didn't get them done in time for this post. I'm going to go back and separate the official from the unofficial and also look at just chase betting the (A) and (B) bets. I was really encouraged by the money line wins and the fact that there were no alternate run lines needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagball52 View Post
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    EXCELLENT recap Hagball. Much appreciated! Points is given at the system rules.

    ​Come on people, give Hagball some points for this!

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    Thanks Hagball and Wallco

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    I meant to get this up earlier but its still early enough. These are the filters for the JM MLB System. They will be mentioned when they come into play but will not affect the posting of the plays. All series will be posted regardless of the filter. Morrison always sends out the plays and then pulls the filter out of his ass when the series loses. It will be your choice on whether or not to play the series. I know there will be times when I miss something during the season and I do appreciate when one of you steps up and mentions it or calls me out. This is why I am posting them so if I do make an error someone will catch it. At this point these are all of the filters that I know of. I just went back and read the pdf.

    - Injury filter- If the team you are betting on has an injury to their best pitcher or hitter then you should pass on the series.

    - Top 3 rpi filter- If the team you are betting against is rated top 3 in the rpi then you should pass on this series.

    - Worst road team filter- If the team you are betting on is the worst road team then you should pass on the series. If they are playing at home it's okay to play on them.

    - Alternate Run Line Rule- If the team you are betting on is favored by up to -115 odds then you should buy the +1.5 alternate run line.

    - (D) bet rule- If you are playing a series and it is a 4 game set and the (C) bet loses then you can make a (D) bet on the 4th game.

    - The rpi drop- This is not a rule or a filter but Morrison has used it in the past to erase losses from his record. The rule is if a team you are betting on drops below the recommended .015 rpi during the course of the series then you should pass on the series. Vintage JM B.S. When you start a series just take note of how close the rpi is and decide for yourself whether or not to play it.

    Now all of you who have been here know that Morrison will send out official plays and not mention the filter until it goes to a (C) bet or the series loses. We all here in this forum usually ignore the injury filter because it usually doesn't make a difference in the outcome of the series. The top 3 rpi filter will be mentioned because we have all seen it happen (i.e. Yankees / Red Sox series) last season. Also worst road team filter is a good one to pay attention to. The alternate run line rule never came into play last year and you will never hear JM mention it until a series loses. I personally never play it. The (D) bet saved a couple of official bets last season so if you are playing a series I suggest you play it out. I believe this is all of the filters and rules. If anyone has anything to add please do so.

    P.S. Also wanted to bring up a topic that some of you probably already know about but the re-alignment of the league will present a little different dynamic for this season. With Houston moving to the AL that balances the 2 leagues with 15 teams each meaning there will be at least one interleague series at all times during the season. I don't know how many times the AL and NL teams will overlap but it could produce fewer plays with a little more uncertainty. Just wanted to bring that up. Should be an interesting year.
    Last edited by hagball52; 03-24-13 at 03:25 PM.

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