1. 02-09-13 06:55 PM #1
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    Any MLB regular season over/unders out yet?

    It's about that time. Post the book(s) if you see any. thanks.
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  2. 02-14-13 09:59 AM #2
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    still looking. I saw a baseball prospectus, but I don't even want to look at that.
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  3. 02-14-13 09:59 AM #3
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    Pound the Indians
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  4. 02-14-13 10:01 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    Pound the Indians
    At what number BD5? 100 wins?
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  5. 02-14-13 10:04 AM #5
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    They will be set at about 72
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  6. 02-14-13 10:17 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    They will be set at about 72
    Baseball Prospectus has them at 80, but you think the number is going to be 72?

    For reference, they won 68 last year. Subtract Choo, Add Swisher, Reynolds Stubbs, Bauer, Bourn, and Francona and the public is going to go 50/50 at 72 wins? I'd venture to guess it's closer to 76 or so.
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  7. 02-14-13 10:32 AM #7
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    atlantis got the indians at 77.5, id say over is good tho
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  8. 02-14-13 11:12 AM #8
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    2013 MLB Season Win totals
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    Arizona Diamondbacks 81.5 (-120o)
    Atlanta Braves 86
    Baltimore Orioles 76.5
    Boston Red Sox 79.5 (-120o)
    Chicago Cubs 72
    Chicago White Sox 80.5
    Cincinnati Reds 88.5
    Cleveland Indians 77.5 (-120o)
    Colorado Rockies 71.5
    Detroit Tigers 90
    Houston Astros 59.5 (-120o)
    Kansas City Royals 79
    Los Angeles Angels 89.5 (-120o)
    Los Angeles Dodgers 90
    Miami Marlins 64.5 (-120u)
    Milwaukee Brewers 79.5
    Minnesota Twins 64.5
    New York Mets 74 (-120u)
    New York Yankees 86.5 (-120u)
    Oakland Athletics 83 (-120u)
    Philadelphia Phillies 81.5
    Pittsburgh Pirates 79
    San Diego Padres 74.5
    San Francisco Giants 86
    Seattle Mariners 76.5
    St. Louis Cardinals 85.5
    Tampa Bay Rays 86
    Texas Rangers 87
    Toronto Blue Jays 86.5
    Washington Nationals 90
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  9. 02-14-13 11:19 AM #9
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    Toronto only 86.5???
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  10. 02-14-13 11:21 AM #10
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    8 teams won over 90 games last year but there's no total over 90 games now??
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  11. 02-14-13 11:37 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by EXhoosier10 View Post
    2013 MLB Season Win totals

    Kansas City Royals 79
    Pound this hard over 79
    KC goes 81-81 or better

    KC can rake

    Cain and Escobar on top is pesky

    Meat of the order Gordon-Butler-Moose is solid, then you get to Perez in the 6 hole, who has pop and average for a catcher, he's not Posey or Mauer, but he can rake. Hosmer batting seventh is scary.

    Francouer has sneaky pop in the 8 hole, Getz hitting ninth is a no pop .275 infielder.

    Shields is a bona fide ace and will win 15 for the Royals, he anchoring the staff with Santana makes them a .500 club (with the bats) or slightly better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EXhoosier10 View Post
    2013 MLB Season Win totals
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    Arizona Diamondbacks 81.5 (-120o)
    Atlanta Braves 86
    Baltimore Orioles 76.5
    Boston Red Sox 79.5 (-120o)
    Chicago Cubs 72
    Chicago White Sox 80.5
    Cincinnati Reds 88.5
    Cleveland Indians 77.5 (-120o)
    Colorado Rockies 71.5
    Detroit Tigers 90
    Houston Astros 59.5 (-120o)
    Kansas City Royals 79
    Los Angeles Angels 89.5 (-120o)
    Los Angeles Dodgers 90
    Miami Marlins 64.5 (-120u)
    Milwaukee Brewers 79.5
    Minnesota Twins 64.5
    New York Mets 74 (-120u)
    New York Yankees 86.5 (-120u)
    Oakland Athletics 83 (-120u)
    Philadelphia Phillies 81.5
    Pittsburgh Pirates 79
    San Diego Padres 74.5
    San Francisco Giants 86
    Seattle Mariners 76.5
    St. Louis Cardinals 85.5
    Tampa Bay Rays 86
    Texas Rangers 87
    Toronto Blue Jays 86.5
    Washington Nationals 90
    thanks a million Hoosiers
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  13. 02-14-13 01:06 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Pound this hard over 79
    KC goes 81-81 or better

    KC can rake

    Cain and Escobar on top is pesky

    Meat of the order Gordon-Butler-Moose is solid, then you get to Perez in the 6 hole, who has pop and average for a catcher, he's not Posey or Mauer, but he can rake. Hosmer batting seventh is scary.

    Francouer has sneaky pop in the 8 hole, Getz hitting ninth is a no pop .275 infielder.

    Shields is a bona fide ace and will win 15 for the Royals, he anchoring the staff with Santana makes them a .500 club (with the bats) or slightly better.
    I love their hitting, nash. but check out their rotation after shields...

    Starting Rotation
    Jeremy Guthrie
    Bruce Chen
    Luke Hochevar
    Ervin Santana
    Will Smith
    Luis Mendoza

    wow?

    Personally, I like baltimore U76.5, but I have to check out scheduling first before I place any bets
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  14. 02-15-13 01:52 PM #14
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    Early looksies I like Atlanta over 86, Colorado over 71.5, Detroit over 90.
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  15. 02-15-13 02:40 PM #15
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    INteresting
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  16. 02-15-13 02:44 PM #16
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    There is a couple that stand out but this one is interesting. I know it is very low but every single team in the AL is dominant to them This under could very well cash



    Houston Astros 59.5

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/depth/_/...houston-astros



    You tell me ?


    Blue Jays only at 86.5 is where I figured it would be at. I was thinking 87.5 or 88 so it is not that shocking to me.
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  17. 02-15-13 05:39 PM #17
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    Arizona Diamondbacks - 81.5 (over -120/under -110)
    Atlanta Braves - 86 (over -115/under -115)
    Baltimore Orioles - 76.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Boston Red Sox - 79.5 (over -120/under -110)
    Chicago Cubs - 72 (over -115/under -115)
    Chicago White Sox - 80.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Cincinnati Reds - 88.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Cleveland Indians - 77.5 (over -120/under -110)
    Colorado Rockies - 71.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Detroit Tigers - 90 (over -115/under -115)
    Houston Astros - 59.5 (over -120/under -110)
    Kansas City Royals - 79 (over 115/under -115)
    Los Angeles Angels - 89.5 (over -120/under -110)
    Los Angeles Dodgers - 90 (over -115/under -115)
    Miami Marlins - 64.5 (over -110/under -120)
    Milwaukee Brewers - 79.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Minnesota Twins - 64.5 (over -115/under -115)
    New York Mets - 74 (over -110/under -120)
    New York Yankees - 86.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Oakland Athletics - 83 (over -110/under -120)
    Philadelphia Phillies - 81.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Pittsburgh Pirates - 79 (over -115/under -115)
    San Diego Padres - 74.5 (over -115/under -115)
    San Francisco Giants - 86 (over -115/under -115)
    Seattle Mariners - 76.5 (over -115/under -115)
    St. Louis Cardinals - 85.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Tampa Bay Rays - 86 (over -115/under -115)
    Texas Rangers - 87 (over -115/under -115)
    Toronto Blue Jays - 86.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Washington Nationals - 90 (over -115/under -115)
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  18. 02-15-13 05:47 PM #18
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    Brewers Under
    Mariners under
    Indians over
    Marlins under
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  19. 02-15-13 05:48 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by EASports View Post
    Arizona Diamondbacks - 81.5 (over -120/under -110)
    Atlanta Braves - 86 (over -115/under -115)
    Baltimore Orioles - 76.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Boston Red Sox - 79.5 (over -120/under -110)
    Chicago Cubs - 72 (over -115/under -115)
    Chicago White Sox - 80.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Cincinnati Reds - 88.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Cleveland Indians - 77.5 (over -120/under -110)
    Colorado Rockies - 71.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Detroit Tigers - 90 (over -115/under -115)
    Houston Astros - 59.5 (over -120/under -110)
    Kansas City Royals - 79 (over 115/under -115)
    Los Angeles Angels - 89.5 (over -120/under -110)
    Los Angeles Dodgers - 90 (over -115/under -115)
    Miami Marlins - 64.5 (over -110/under -120)
    Milwaukee Brewers - 79.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Minnesota Twins - 64.5 (over -115/under -115)
    New York Mets - 74 (over -110/under -120)
    New York Yankees - 86.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Oakland Athletics - 83 (over -110/under -120)
    Philadelphia Phillies - 81.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Pittsburgh Pirates - 79 (over -115/under -115)
    San Diego Padres - 74.5 (over -115/under -115)
    San Francisco Giants - 86 (over -115/under -115)
    Seattle Mariners - 76.5 (over -115/under -115)
    St. Louis Cardinals - 85.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Tampa Bay Rays - 86 (over -115/under -115)
    Texas Rangers - 87 (over -115/under -115)
    Toronto Blue Jays - 86.5 (over -115/under -115)
    Washington Nationals - 90 (over -115/under -115)
    Bolded I like for overs. I like Braves and Mariners Under as well.
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  20. 02-15-13 05:52 PM #20
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    Only thing that may give Houston a chance to go over is that the AL won't have the scouting report on them that the NL does. I know that goes both ways, but I think that helps the team with the least amount of talent.
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  21. 02-15-13 06:00 PM #21
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    Los Angeles Angels +800
    Los Angeles Dodgers +800
    Toronto Blue Jays +800
    Washington Nationals +800
    Detroit Tigers +900
    Atlanta Braves +1200
    New York Yankees +1250
    Cincinnati Reds +1300
    Texas Rangers +1350
    Philadelphia Phillies +1700
    San Francisco Giants +1700
    Boston Red Sox +2000
    St. Louis Cardinals +2000
    Tampa Bay Rays +2200
    Oakland Athletics +2700
    Baltimore Orioles +4000
    Arizona Diamondbacks +4500
    Chicago White Sox +5000
    Kansas City Royals +5000
    Milwaukee Brewers +5000
    Pittsburgh Pirates +7200
    New York Mets +7500
    San Diego Padres +7500
    Cleveland Indians +7750
    Seattle Mariners +8500
    Chicago Cubs +10000
    Colorado Rockies +10000
    Minnesota Twins +12500
    Miami Marlins +15000
    Houston Astros +20000

    Odds to win WS on 5-Dimes. Blue Jays over 86.5 may not be bad...their division is pretty tough though
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  22. 02-15-13 06:56 PM #22
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    brewers at 79 wins? that can't be right, they had what 84 last season this season bullpen is 1000 times improved. starting pitcher hella better. weird ass line. defiantly will be putting tons of cash on that.
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  23. 02-15-13 07:22 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by neverstoppers23 View Post
    brewers at 79 wins? that can't be right, they had what 84 last season this season bullpen is 1000 times improved. starting pitcher hella better. weird ass line. defiantly will be putting tons of cash on that.
    um, how is there starting pitching better? and the Bullpen isn't so much "better" as it can't be as terrible as it was last year.
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  24. 02-15-13 07:32 PM #24
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    The NL Central won't have the 2 layups it had last year in Houston and Chicago. They'll still have Chicago, but the Cubs pitching has improved and their hitting should improve as the season progresses.
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    -115 odds fukk that

    pull the trigger when pinnacle lines are released
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  26. 02-15-13 08:48 PM #26
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    love the arizona over. this is a team that will fly under the radar early in the season and might actually contend for the division title.

    also that tampa total at 86 looks a bit too high. tough division plus losing shields should definitely hurt them.
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  27. 02-16-13 08:31 AM #27
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    Question: What percentage of your MLB season bankroll should be allotted for MLB futures wagers?

    Will be interested in hearing different thoughts about this subject.
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  28. 02-16-13 09:05 AM #28
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    Think I'm going Boston over 79.5 too. Last year was pretty much an injury riddled lost cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EXhoosier10 View Post
    2013 MLB Season Win totals
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    Arizona Diamondbacks 81.5 (-120o)
    Atlanta Braves 86
    Baltimore Orioles 76.5
    Boston Red Sox 79.5 (-120o)
    Chicago Cubs 72
    Chicago White Sox 80.5
    Cincinnati Reds 88.5
    Cleveland Indians 77.5 (-120o)
    Colorado Rockies 71.5
    Detroit Tigers 90
    Houston Astros 59.5 (-120o)
    Kansas City Royals 79
    Los Angeles Angels 89.5 (-120o)
    Los Angeles Dodgers 90
    Miami Marlins 64.5 (-120u)
    Milwaukee Brewers 79.5
    Minnesota Twins 64.5
    New York Mets 74 (-120u)
    New York Yankees 86.5 (-120u)
    Oakland Athletics 83 (-120u)
    Philadelphia Phillies 81.5
    Pittsburgh Pirates 79
    San Diego Padres 74.5
    San Francisco Giants 86
    Seattle Mariners 76.5
    St. Louis Cardinals 85.5
    Tampa Bay Rays 86
    Texas Rangers 87
    Toronto Blue Jays 86.5
    Washington Nationals 90
    Give me dodgers and Toronto UNDER
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    Quote Originally Posted by broadway6 View Post
    Give me dodgers and Toronto UNDER
    that total at 90 is definitely inflated. probably one of the better bets on the board.

    also padres should be an easy over. Improving team decent pitching and of course Petco Field
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    Phills over 81.5.. Doesn't get easier then that
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose View Post
    Question: What percentage of your MLB season bankroll should be allotted for MLB futures wagers?

    Will be interested in hearing different thoughts about this subject.
    I won't be putting more than 1u on a future of any sort, WS, division, or reg season wins. There is so much variation with injuries over 162 games that these bets are hardly anything but luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlunc3 View Post
    Phills over 81.5.. Doesn't get easier then that
    I agree. Nobody is talking about the Phillies. Makes for a dangerous team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broadway6 View Post
    I agree. Nobody is talking about the Phillies. Makes for a dangerous team.
    Don't really understand the line. Won 81 last yr with utley doc and Howard out half the yr.. And then when they did play, they weren't 100%. They also played half the yr with no center feilder or third basemen, and the whole yr with no bullpen. Since, howard, utley and doc are all 100%, and they added a center feilder, third bAseman, and a solid bullpen. Idk, needing to win only 1 more game seems pretty doable
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose View Post
    Question: What percentage of your MLB season bankroll should be allotted for MLB futures wagers?

    Will be interested in hearing different thoughts about this subject.
    I usually put 1, 1.5, or 2 units on futures. If I have 100 units, I will bet less than 10 on futures. It allows me to bet less during the season and watch some teams more closely than others.
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