[Chi_archie]

comeback player of the year,

what kind of HR totals does he need to finish with to get HOF consideration?

600?

or does it not really matter he'll be a contemporary Dave Kingham?

[tto827]

comeback player of the year,

what kind of HR totals does he need to finish with to get HOF consideration?

600?

or does it not really matter he'll be a contemporary Dave Kingham?

I don't think he gets in, its the Hall of Fame, not the hall of very good. He has been steady, I just don't see him ever getting the required vote. That being said, seems like a class guy and would like to see him get in.

[Chi_archie]

I don't think he gets in, its the Hall of Fame, not the hall of very good. He has been steady, I just don't see him ever getting the required vote. That being said, seems like a class guy and would like to see him get in.

yeah I think he is a good example of not letting long term "accumulator" types get in.

never sniffed an MVP and only two all star teams

he turns 33 in a few days

he has 406 HR's I could see him getting 500 if he stayed healthy in 4-5 years

the automatic induction numbers like 3,000 and 500 will HAVE to change if he got say 505

[k13]

100 hr's in one year.

[Bcatswin]

I don't see it happening at all.

[tto827]

yeah I think he is a good example of not letting long term "accumulator" types get in.

never sniffed an MVP and only two all star teams

he turns 33 in a few days

he has 406 HR's I could see him getting 500 if he stayed healthy in 4-5 years

the automatic induction numbers like 3,000 and 500 will HAVE to change if he got say 505

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't there already one member of the 500 club that is not in the HOF. Or maybe its a 300 win pitcher, I'll try and find it.

[boeing power]

he needs to bat over .400 for the next 5 seasons

[Chi_archie]

1.	Barry Bonds (22)	762	L	HR Log
2.	Hank Aaron+ (23)	755	R	HR Log
3.	Babe Ruth+ (22)	714	L	HR Log
4.	Willie Mays+ (22)	660	R	HR Log
5.	Alex Rodriguez (19, 36)	647	R	HR Log
6.	Ken Griffey (22)	630	L	HR Log
7.	Jim Thome (22, 41)	612	L	HR Log
8.	Sammy Sosa (18)	609	R	HR Log
9.	Frank Robinson+ (21)	586	R	HR Log
10.	Mark McGwire (16)	583	R	HR Log
11.	Harmon Killebrew+ (22)	573	R	HR Log
12.	Rafael Palmeiro (20)	569	L	HR Log
13.	Reggie Jackson+ (21)	563	L	HR Log
14.	Manny Ramirez (19, 40)	555	R	HR Log
15.	Mike Schmidt+ (18)	548	R	HR Log
16.	Mickey Mantle+ (18)	536	B	HR Log
17.	Jimmie Foxx+ (20)	534	R	HR Log
18.	Willie McCovey+ (22)	521	L	HR Log
	Frank Thomas (19)	521	R	HR Log
	Ted Williams+ (19)	521	L	HR Log
21.	Ernie Banks+ (19)	512	R	HR Log
	Eddie Mathews+ (17)	512	L	HR Log
23.	Mel Ott+ (22)	511	L	HR Log
24.	Gary Sheffield (22)	509	R	HR Log
25.	Eddie Murray+ (21)	504

Sheffield, Frank Thomas, Manny, Palmeiro, McGwire, Sosa, Griffey Jr with 500 but not in, but I think McGwire and Palmeiro are the only ones that have been eligible and they aren't getting in due to roids obviously.

some interesting ones coming up

Thomas is a shoe-in
Sheffield?????

[HoulihansTX]

He is the Strikeout King, there should be a place in the Hall of Fame for that.

[pinnacle420]

dude ya he hits 40 a year but he also strikesout 6 outta 10 times and bats mid 200s............ umm no way he gets in unless voters smoke a blunt and freebase blow before voting

[Dirty Sanchez]

comeback player of the year,

what kind of HR totals does he need to finish with to get HOF consideration?

600?

or does it not really matter he'll be a contemporary Dave Kingham?

Adam Dunn in the Hall of Fame? If whiffing is a stat to get in he's a lock

[Brock Landers]

only way he gets in is if he buys a ticket

[gryfyn1]

He's Jay Buhner only not as good on defense. If he keeps posting the numbers he has the last 5 years (sans w/e happened in 2011) for the next 6-7 years we can have have discussion about whether being an okay player for a long time makes a player worth getting into the HOF (it doesn't)

[tto827]

The real question here is Paul Konerko, I feel he probably will deserve a nod when its all said and done, but I am not too sure he will get it.

[Chi_archie]

He's Jay Buhner only not as good on defense. If he keeps posting the numbers he has the last 5 years (sans w/e happened in 2011) for the next 6-7 years we can have have discussion about whether being an okay player for a long time makes a player worth getting into the HOF (it doesn't)

could he be a young version of Jim Thome?

doe Jim Thome get in?

[tto827]

could he be a young version of Jim Thome?

doe Jim Thome get in?

He and Konerko both questions, I don't think you can definitively say yes or no on either guy. I say eventually one might get in, but most likely not.

[boeing power]

could he be a young version of Jim Thome?

doe Jim Thome get in?

Dunn batting .240 career will not get him in.

Absolutely Thome gets in.

[Chi_archie]

He and Konerko both questions, I don't think you can definitively say yes or no on either guy. I say eventually one might get in, but most likely not.

throw another contemporary long time Pale Hose player in there too.

Mark Buehrle got any shot if he pitches 5 more years? what if he threw another no-no?

[robmpink]

Gee whiz, Sheffield hit over 500 hr's? F......

[tto827]

throw another contemporary long time Pale Hose player in there too.

Mark Buehrle got any shot if he pitches 5 more years? what if he threw another no-no?

He's not a power pitcher, definitely got another 5 in him. I think he has as good of shot as any of the guys we've been mentioning, but if he pitches until he is 41-42 and gets to 300 wins, is there anyway you can keep him out?

[Chi_archie]

He's not a power pitcher, definitely got another 5 in him. I think he has as good of shot as any of the guys we've been mentioning, but if he pitches until he is 41-42 and gets to 300 wins, is there anyway you can keep him out?

the perfect game, the other no-no, the gold gloves, innings eater, how many years straight with 10+ wins?

I thought he wanted to retire early, but if he goes another 4-5 years it will be an interesting discussion.


i'll never forget this play!

[gryfyn1]

could he be a young version of Jim Thome?

doe Jim Thome get in?

Dunn isn't even remotely close to Thome - no only was Thome a much, much better hitter, Thome was also at least respectable as a fielder, where Dunn is an absolute hack. And Yes Thome should get in the HOF

The real question here is Paul Konerko, I feel he probably will deserve a nod when its all said and done, but I am not too sure he will get it.

Konerko is not close to the Hall either

[InTheDrink]

If Kingham gets in it's only on the heels of his hit song Kingham Style

[seaborneq]

Dunn can't get in unless he starts having .300 batting average season all of a sudden. The number of homers won't matter, even 800.

[Chi_archie]

posters seem unified on the low batting average part of things.

but don't forget that baseball writers/voters are more and more putting way more stock in things like OPS

and Dunn has a respectable OPS

if he did get 600 HRs ( I don't think he will) I think he would get in eventually

[konck]

He would need to pay everyone that has a vote 1 million dollars...Im sure he will not have that

[Chi_archie]

by the way Kingham=Kingman

I became aware of how much I butchered that name this morning.

and he and his 436 HR's ( in a different era) and .236 lifetime BA

got no sniff of the HOF, so there is alot of precedence in the above assertions on 2nd thought

Hall of Fame
1992 BBWAA ( 0.7%)

[tto827]

Dunn isn't even remotely close to Thome - no only was Thome a much, much better hitter, Thome was also at least respectable as a fielder, where Dunn is an absolute hack. And Yes Thome should get in the HOF



Konerko is not close to the Hall either

How can Konerko not be close, if he can squeeze out 4 more years he likely will hit over 500 homeruns with a .280+ career batting average.

[tto827]

the perfect game, the other no-no, the gold gloves, innings eater, how many years straight with 10+ wins?

I thought he wanted to retire early, but if he goes another 4-5 years it will be an interesting discussion.

That play was incredible, and I forgot about him wanting to retire early. If he and Ozzie could have stuck together in Chicago, I think he would have stayed around for the long haul. Now, if he doesn't find a good situation quick, I think he'll be done very soon.

[Living The Dream]

No shot whatsoever

[Chi_archie]

That play was incredible, and I forgot about him wanting to retire early. If he and Ozzie could have stuck together in Chicago, I think he would have stayed around for the long haul. Now, if he doesn't find a good situation quick, I think he'll be done very soon.

we he has quite a few reasons left in the last 3 years of that 58 million dollar contract to stay around.

about 48 million of it I believe. I'm sure he'll get traded from Miami though

[The Giant]

he has 406 HR's I could see him getting 500 if he stayed healthy in 4-5 years

You make it sound like 94 homeruns over a four-five year stretch is good for someone that will strike out close to 1,000 times in that same timeframe.

Adam Dunn sucks. No chance of the Hall of Fame.

He has a better chance of winning a couple of gold gloves.

[Chi_archie]

I guess the conclusion is that 500 home runs (*clean*) no longer IS a HOF milestone

[darko3131]

500 no way, if Dunn reaches 600 I'll throw him a bone and say yes

[Louisvillekid1]

clutch hits in playoffs...

Pass