1. 10-04-12 03:34 PM #1
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    Does Anybody Realize What The Yankees Just Accomplished?

    They won the AL East WITHOUT MARIANO RIVERA.

    They suffered through a plethora of injuries.

    Look at the injuries they battled through this season and tell me if any other team would have survived something comparable.

    Rivera
    Pineda
    Chamberlain
    Sabathia
    Pettitte
    Nova
    Teixeira
    A-Rod


    WTF! To put this into perspective, the Phillies lost only two important players in comparison in Ryan Howard and Chase Utley and were floundering all year long.

    The Yankees were devastated with injuries to key players and not only survived, but won 95 games and the division.

    I should also point out the year Derek Jeter had.

    This will go down as one of the greatest seasons ever by a 38 year old. Led MLB in hits. Scored 100+ runs. Hit over .300.

    He literally carried the Yankees for over a 3 month stretch in which he was fukking phenomenal.

    In my view, he is the true MVP of the AL.

    If injuries hadn't played such a huge role this season and the Yankees had been fully healthy from the start, we might have been talking about this Yankees team as among the best ever.
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  2. 10-04-12 03:46 PM #2
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    Girardi is a very good reg season manager. I know he got us that one ring in short series what happened in the reg season means nothing.
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  3. 10-04-12 04:02 PM #3
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    Lol

    We say that every year

    Then knocked out 1st round

    Massive underachievers
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  4. 10-04-12 04:08 PM #4
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    girardi good job but it means shit

    yankees success is measured in titles

    championship or bust

    no in between

    I'm surprised Sori was as good as he was

    hopefully Mo comes back for 1 more year
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    girardi very solid, need some young arms now
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  6. 10-04-12 04:33 PM #6
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    who's "we", "us"? never knew so many yankees posted on sbr.
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  7. 10-04-12 04:34 PM #7
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    They can afford to pay their bench players more than most teams pay their starters.

    What other team can take a flyer on a guy like Eric Chavez or Raul Ibanez (2 guys that they would not have made the playoffs without), not to mention Derek Lowe or the Ichiro "trade" (I use the word trade very lightly there - that was a mugging).

    They're on a completely different level when it comes to payroll - so over the course of 162 they should win that Division every year. Which they essentially do.
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    Everyone forgets about the Pineda injury. Man he couldve won 15-18 games EASY with the Yanks.....maybe even 20. Next year if he comes back healthy, he will be a HUGE impact.
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    Take a look at payroll, kid. The backed themselves into the playoffs.
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  10. 10-04-12 04:38 PM #10
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    amen philly,

    except for Jeetz being MVP, team MVP maybe, but theirs a triple crown winner that should get some of that.
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    Oak has no payroll

    Yans massive underachievers vs payroll

    they should win every year
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    Right on jj....the A's story is 100X more impressive.
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  13. 10-04-12 05:08 PM #13
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    But the Red Sox laid down and loss 93, they got a lot of money
    Yankees didn't give up
    they're all filthy rich w/ overstocked trophy cases but still came out to play hard

    I tire of that argument that "the Yankees throw money at it"
    they still gotta play 162 games
    still have to manage it
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  14. 10-04-12 05:09 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by LizReed44 View Post
    Right on jj....the A's story is 100X more impressive.
    I'll agree w/ that

    I'm still gonna give the Yankees credit where credit is due
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Oak has no payroll

    Yans massive underachievers vs payroll

    they should win every year
    How can anyone say they were massive underachievers with the best record in baseball and given the injuries they suffered?

    That is just insane.

    Oakland was nearly entirely healthy for the whole season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    How can anyone say they were massive underachievers with the best record in baseball and given the injuries they suffered?

    That is just insane.

    Oakland was nearly entirely healthy for the whole season.

    They don't have best record in baseball
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    They don't have best record in baseball
    Sorry, I meant AL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    How can anyone say they were massive underachievers with the best record in baseball and given the injuries they suffered?
    BTW not the best record in baseball.

    Girardi is a solid Manager however the numbers speak for themselves.

    You do the math...

    2012 Payroll:

    1. New York Yankees - $198,998,004
    30. Oakland Athletics - $49,137,500

    Source:http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/salaries...a-diamondbacks
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  19. 10-04-12 05:22 PM #19
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    obtw, Bartolo Colon sure ate up a lot of innings for those of you that feel PED's matter

    Take however wins you may think Burrito C would have factored and the Tampa Rays are the 2nd wildcard
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    Yeah, the Phils didn't lose Halladay or Chooch or anyone. Riiiight. Or almost all their reg relief pitchers. Rollins never got hurt. Polanco didn't miss any time.
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  21. 10-04-12 05:25 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by jagaf22 View Post
    BTW not the best record in baseball.

    Girardi is a solid Manager however the numbers speak for themselves.

    You do the math...

    2012 Payroll:

    1. New York Yankees - $198,998,004
    30. Oakland Athletics - $49,137,500

    Source:http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/salaries...a-diamondbacks
    If the Yankees win the World Series and Oakland doesn't or even fails to win a playoff series, then what will this really mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gomiamigo View Post
    Yeah, the Phils didn't lose Halladay or Chooch or anyone. Riiiight. Or almost all their reg relief pitchers. Rollins never got hurt. Polanco didn't miss any time.
    Halladay was injured and came back and with the starting pitching staff the Phillies have, compared to the Yankees, who should have been better able to withstand losing their #1 starters, Yankees or Phillies?
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  23. 10-04-12 05:28 PM #23
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    While their hitting is good their pitching is average at best. The wont even get to the WS let alone win it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    If the Yankees win the World Series and Oakland doesn't or even fails to win a playoff series, then what will this really mean?
    Dollar for dollar should they not win the World Series? Hands down right
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  25. 10-04-12 05:29 PM #25
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    7 hitter hit 42 HR's...

    HOFer at every position on the infield...

    A's story 10X's more impressive...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jagaf22 View Post
    Dollar for dollar should they not win the World Series? Hands down right
    Your bringing money into like that has everything to do with winning and losing.

    If that's the case, then why wasn't Boston utterly awesome this season? Or Miami? Or The Phillies? Or The Mets? Or The Dodgers? Or The Angels? Or Minnesota? Or The White Sox?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    7 hitter hit 42 HR's...

    HOFer at every position on the infield...

    A's story 10X's more impressive...
    When they don't do shit in the playoffs and the Yankees win the World Series no one will remember the 2012 Oakland A's.
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  28. 10-04-12 05:47 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    Your bringing money into like that has everything to do with winning and losing.

    If that's the case, then why wasn't Boston utterly awesome this season? Or Miami? Or The Phillies? Or The Mets? Or The Dodgers? Or The Angels? Or Minnesota? Or The White Sox?

    Over 50% of the teams that made the postseason are in the top 9 this season for MLB salaries. Yes...money matters! You make it sound like the Yankees did it with a minor league squad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jagaf22 View Post
    Over 50% of the teams that made the postseason are in the top 9 this season for MLB salaries. Yes...money matters! You make it sound like the Yankees did it with a minor league squad.
    I never said money doesn't matter. You're acting like it's the end all and be all. It's not.

    The top ten payrolls this season belonged to...

    1. The Yankees
    2. Boston
    3. Philadelphia
    4. LA Angels
    5. Detroit
    6. San Francisco
    7. Texas
    8. St. Louis
    9. Chicago Cubs
    10. LA Dodgers

    Of those, 6 out of 10 made the playoffs. That means a full 40% still didn't and their payroll meant nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    I never said money doesn't matter. You're acting like it's the end all and be all. It's not.

    The top ten payrolls this season belonged to...

    1. The Yankees
    2. Boston
    3. Philadelphia
    4. LA Angels
    5. Detroit
    6. San Francisco
    7. Texas
    8. St. Louis
    9. Chicago Cubs
    10. LA Dodgers

    Of those, 6 out of 10 made the playoffs. That means a full 40% still didn't and their payroll meant nothing.
    Errr, 5 out of 10 made the playoffs based on your list.

    So that leaves,,,5/20 (25%) of the remaining teams with lesser payrolls made the playoffs. So I get 50% of the pie and you get 25%. Derp
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    Quote Originally Posted by jagaf22 View Post
    Errr, 5 out of 10 made the playoffs based on your list.
    OK. That's even worse for your argument then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    OK. That's even worse for your argument then.
    Your argument is asinine. Use your numbers 5/8 of the top teams made the playoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jagaf22 View Post
    Your argument is asinine. Use your numbers 5/8 of the top teams made the playoffs.
    Yeah and 5 out of 10 didn't.

    Also, your argument is basically the highest payrolls win. Talk about asinine.

    If that's the case then why doesn't the team with the highest payroll always win the World Series?
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  34. 10-04-12 06:56 PM #34
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    what the fkk is this

    yankees are always in the playoffs

    do u realize what oakland just did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbawks View Post
    what the fkk is this

    yankees are always in the playoffs

    do u realize what oakland just did?
    But you miss the point. The point of the thread was what the Yankees accomplished given what they had to endure this season, not about what Oakland did.

    Oakland's season, to me, is meaningless unless they win a World Series.

    Otherwise, who gives a fukk about simply winning a division?

    Why not start a thread about Washington if that's the case?

    The Yankees had to endure Hell this year and no one seems to appreciate it.
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