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    How did "atari" finish the season?

    I use to follow closely, but the guy / chick turns out to be no different then JM covering up his losses. Clears a very heavy labby line hitting around 45% on the season in MLB. Decreased unit size 3 times and said he was up 4 units when the line was cleared.

    If you decrease your unit size say from $50 to $15 and the $15 unit size is what you clear your line with you cant possible be in the positive when the line is cleared.

    Guy is complete scam and takes most of his plays from either a quick look at covers charts or systems in SBR.

    I am curious to see how this douche ended the season with someones real numbers. I know his numbers are pretty fake unless you have 300 units in your bankroll to follow his 10 unit plays.

    Thanks
    Austin

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    tried to warn you man...

    hopefully you got out sooner rather then later..

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    I went through Atari's numbers and here is what I got. All the columns are his but the 2nd one, which I used to keep track of the units as the season progressed. My math is dead on based on the fact I have the exact ending number as him at the end of the columns. I hope this information is helpful.

    MLB list of games played


    4/27/12 +2 2 MLB moneyline Red Sox W -107
    4/28/12 +3.5 1.5 MLB moneyline Red Sox W -107
    4/29/12 +2.42 -1.08 MLB moneyline St. Louis L -108
    4/29/12 +1.23 -1.19 MLB moneyline Red Sox L -119
    4/30/12 -1.65 -2.88 MLB moneyline Mets L -113
    5/01/12 -7.74 -6.09 MLB moneyline Mets L -128
    5/02/12 -14.21 -6.47 MLB parlay Rays/Tigers L 102
    5/02/12 -14.21 0 MLB spread Rays -1 PUSH -141
    5/03/12 -20.47 -6.26 MLB total Cards/Pirates U7.5 L -120
    5/04/12 -14.07 6.4 MLB spread Yankees -1 W -135
    5/05/12 -20.39 -6.32 MLB spread Yankees -1 L -117
    5/05/12 -14.99 5.4 MLB spread Dodgers -1 W -105
    5/05/12 -19.16 -4.17 MLB spread Rays -1 L -107
    5/06/12 -11.72 7.44 MLB moneyline Marlins W -121
    5/07/12 -11.72 0 MLB spread Reds +1 PUSH -123
    5/07/12 -9.12 2.6 MLB spread Angels -1 W -133
    5/07/12 -12.11 -2.99 MLB total ARI/STL U9 L -115
    5/08/12 -18.81 -6.7 MLB spread Reds +1 L -126
    5/09/12 -25.93 -7.12 MLB spread Red Sox -1 L -113
    5/10/12 -19.49 6.44 MLB spread Washington -1 W -126
    5/11/12 -25.57 UNIT SIZE $50 -6.08 MLB spread St. Louis -1 L 106
    5/12/12 -34.77 UNIT SIZE $30 -9.2 MLB spread White Sox -1 L 105
    5/13/12 -30.83 3.94 MLB moneyline Texas W -127
    5/14/12 -24.39 6.44 MLB spread Washington -1 W -104
    5/15/12 -17.95 6.44 MLB moneyline Tampa W -118
    5/16/12 -25.47 -7.52 MLB moneyline Yankees L -127
    5/17/12 -32.09 -6.62 MLB spread Brewers -1 L -105
    5/18/12 -28.44 3.65 MLB total PIT/DET U7.5 W -115
    5/19/12 -36.03 -7.59 MLB moneyline Arizona L -104
    5/20/12 -39.53 -3.5 MLB spread Angels -1 L 105
    5/22/12 -35.85 3.68 MLB moneyline Twins W 142
    5/23/12 -39.82 -3.97 MLB total MIA/COL U8 L -108
    5/24/12 -43.23 -3.41 MLB total SF/MIA U7 L 109
    5/25/12 -50.88 -7.65 MLB spread Reds-1 L -104
    5/26/12 -43.8 7.08 MLB spread Reds -1 W 106
    5/27/12 -36.72 7.08 MLB spread Reds -1.5 W 117
    5/28/12 -29.64 7.08 MLB spread Rangers -1.5 W 106
    5/29/12 -35.69 -6.05 MLB spread Dodgers -1 L 117
    5/30/12 -42.53 -6.84 MLB spread Reds -1 L 109
    5/31/12 -46.48 -3.95 MLB moneyline Astros 1st 5 L -103
    6/01/12 -38.56 7.92 MLB spread Reds -1 W 104
    6/02/12 -30.64 7.92 MLB spread Reds -1 W 103
    6/03/12 -26.68 3.96 MLB spread Arizona -1 W 101
    6/05/12 -34.92 -8.24 MLB spread Reds -1 L -103
    6/06/12 -26.96 7.96 MLB spread Yankees -1 W -103
    6/07/12 -34.40 -7.44 MLB spread Yankees -1 L 107
    6/08/12 -42.75 -8.35 MLB total MIL/SD U8 L -106
    6/09/12 -30.84 11.91 MLB spread Twins W 118
    6/10/12 -41.24 -10.4 MLB spread Arizona -1.5 L 140
    6/11/12 -47.09 -5.85 MLB spread Red Sox -1 L 132
    6/12/12 -55.89 -8.8 MLB spread Mariners -1 L -114
    6/13/12 -48.25 7.64 MLB moneyline Mets W 136
    6/14/12 -58.13 -9.88 MLB spread Brewers -1 L 116
    6/15/12 -66.25 UNIT SIZE $23 -8.12 MLB spread Tigers -1 L -103
    6/16/12 -76.80 -10.55 MLB spread Rays -1 L 112
    6/17/12 -66.25 10.55 MLB spread Texas -1.5 W -104
    6/18/12 -74.52 -8.27 MLB spread Texas L -105
    6/19/12 -83.64 -9.12 MLB spread Arizona L -111
    6/19/12 -79.08 4.56 MLB spread Red Sox -1 W -109
    6/20/12 -69.68 9.4 MLB spread Red Sox -1 W -108
    6/21/12 -61.80 7.88 MLB spread Pirates -1 W -110
    6/22/12 -72.12 -10.32 MLB spread Reds -1 L -131
    6/23/12 -62.72 9.4 MLB spread Reds -1.5 W 104
    6/23/12 -53.32 9.4 MLB parlay Reds/Dbacks W 117
    6/24/12 -61.99 -8.67 MLB spread Reds -1 L -106
    6/25/12 -61.99 0 MLB spread Cardinals -1 PUSH 112
    6/25/12 -71.38 -9.39 MLB spread Mets -1 L 101
    6/26/12 -61.98 9.4 MLB spread Angels -1 W -107
    6/26/12 -54.1 7.88 MLB spread Cardinals -1 W 106
    6/26/12 -58.89 -4.79 MLB spread Mets -1 L -101
    6/27/12 -49.39 9.5 MLB spread Texas -1 W 102
    6/27/12 -55.85 -6.46 MLB moneyline Cardinals L 122
    6/27/12 -51.91 3.94 MLB moneyline Mets W -113
    6/28/12 -62.7 -10.79 MLB spread Washington -1 L -118
    6/29/12 -53.2 9.5 MLB spread Mets -1 W -107
    6/29/12 -43.7 9.5 MLB moneyline Red Sox W -107
    6/30/12 -50.42 -6.72 MLB spread Washington -1 L -107
    6/30/12 -44.58 5.84 MLB spread Yankees -1 W -105
    6/30/12 -32.9 UNIT SIZE $30 11.68 MLB spread Mets -1 W -108
    7/02/12 -45.63 -12.73 MLB spread Arizona -1 L -109
    7/02/12 -45.63 0 MLB spread Brewers -1 PUSH -110
    7/02/12 -50.61 -4.98 MLB moneyline Yankees L 123
    7/03/12 -50.61 0 MLB spread Pirates -1 PUSH -123
    7/03/12 -58.68 -8.07 MLB moneyline Yankees L -109
    7/04/12 -54.25 4.43 MLB moneyline Yankees W 137
    7/04/12 -62.09 UNIT SIZE $21 -7.84 MLB spread Reds -1 L -106
    7/04/12 -70.09 -8 MLB moneyline Angels L -108
    7/05/12 -61.89 8.2 MLB spread Angels -1 W -103
    7/05/12 -53.69 8.2 MLB spread Pirates -1 W 111
    7/05/12 -61.65 -7.96 MLB spread Texas -1 L 103
    7/06/12 -53.45 8.2 MLB spread Oakland -1 W -110
    7/06/12 -45.25 8.2 MLB spread White Sox -1 W -108
    7/06/12 -49.17 -3.92 MLB total Mets/Cubs U7 L 124
    7/07/12 -40.97 8.2 MLB spread Angels -1 W -116
    7/07/12 -40.97 0 MLB spread Cardinals -1 PUSH 101
    7/07/12 -45.47 -4.5 MLB spread Oakland -1 L 108
    7/08/12 -53.87 -8.4 MLB spread Mets -1 L 101
    7/10/12 -49.17 4.7 MLB total All Star Game U8.5 W -108
    7/13/12 -60.17 -11 MLB spread Phillies -1 L -117
    7/14/12 -50.77 9.4 MLB moneyline Cubs W -119
    7/14/12 -41.37 9.4 MLB spread Cubs -1 W 126
    7/14/12 -51.33 -9.96 MLB total KC/CWS U8.5 L -106
    7/15/12 -51.33 0 MLB spread White Sox -1 PUSH -120
    7/16/12 -41.37 9.96 MLB spread Twins -1 W 112
    7/16/12 -50.34 -8.97 MLB spread Reds -1 L 111
    7/17/12 -60.3 -9.96 MLB spread Braves -1 L 100
    7/17/12 -50.34 9.96 MLB moneyline Twins W -106
    7/17/12 -40.38 9.96 MLB spread Yankees -1.5 W -113
    7/17/12 -45.78 -5.4 MLB moneyline Cubs L 107
    7/18/12 -34.98 10.8 MLB spread Pirates -1 W 102
    7/18/12 -41.03 -6.05 MLB spread Twins -1 L -112
    7/18/12 -49.67 -8.64 MLB spread Angels -1 L 125
    7/19/12 -37.31 12.36 MLB spread Mariners -1 W -106
    7/19/12 -31.13 UNIT SIZE $27 6.18 MLB spread Red Sox -1 W -104
    7/20/12 -20.33 10.8 MLB spread Tigers -1 W -121
    7/21/12 -25.61 -5.28 MLB moneyline Twins L 117
    7/21/12 -14.81 10.8 MLB spread Arizona -1.5 W 109
    7/22/12 -20.69 -5.88 MLB spread Yankees -1 L -138
    7/22/12 -8.93 11.76 MLB spread Arizona -1.5 W 100
    7/23/12 -4.27 4.66 MLB spread Yankees -1 W -125
    7/23/12 +5.05 UNIT SIZE $36 9.32 MLB spread Arizona -1.5 W 101
    7/24/12 +9.05 4 MLB spread Arizona -1.5 W 101
    7/25/12 +13.05 4 MLB spread Tampa -1 W -104
    7/26/12 +7.69 -5.36 MLB spread Arizona -1 L -134
    7/27/12 +11.43 3.74 MLB moneyline Mariners W -113
    7/27/12 +11.43 0 MLB spread Pirates -1 PUSH -129
    7/28/12 +5.15 -6.28 MLB spread Angels -1 L -112
    7/29/12 +5.15 0 MLB spread Mariners -1 PUSH 115
    7/30/12 -3.25 -8.4 MLB total A's/Rays U6.5 L 100
    7/31/12 +6.05 9.3 MLB spread Cardinals -1 W -106
    7/31/12 -0.52 -6.57 MLB total COL/STL U10.5 L -106
    08/01/2012 +8 8.52 MLB spread Cardinals -1 W -106
    08/01/2012 +14.2 6.2 MLB spread Yankees -1.5 W 111
    08/01/2012 +18.46 4.26 MLB moneyline Pirates W -118
    08/02/2012 +14.4 -4.06 MLB spread Cardinals -1 L -131
    08/03/2012 +7.45 -6.95 MLB spread Mets -1 L -104
    08/04/2012 +15.45 8 MLB spread Texas -1 W -124
    08/04/2012 +11.68 -3.77 MLB spread Braves -1.5 L 106
    08/05/2012 +16.37 4.69 MLB spread Cardinals -1 W -119
    08/05/2012 +7.54 -8.83 MLB spread Rangers -1 L -112
    08/06/2012 +17.86 10.32 MLB spread Angels -1 W -116
    08/06/2012 +22.35 4.49 MLB moneyline Twins W 115
    08/06/2012 +16.26 -6.09 MLB spread Mariners +1 L -118
    08/07/2012 +21.89 5.63 MLB spread Tampa -1 W -122
    08/07/2012 +27.52 5.63 MLB moneyline Mariners W 118
    08/08/2012 +22.75 -4.77 MLB spread Angels -1 L -106
    08/08/2012 +22.75 0 MLB spread Tampa -1 PUSH 112
    08/08/2012 +20.41 -2.34 MLB spread Reds -1 L -117
    08/08/2012 +18.75 -1.66 MLB moneyline Mariners L 120
    08/09/2012 +28.35 9.6 MLB moneyline Yankees W 110
    08/09/2012 +22.30 -6.05 MLB spread Reds -1 L -126
    08/10/2012 +13.30 -9 MLB spread Rangers -1 L 116
    08/10/2012 +13.30 0 MLB spread Red Sox -1 PUSH -126
    08/11/2012 +23.16 9.86 MLB spread Tampa -1.5 W -113
    08/11/2012 +11.43 -11.73 MLB spread Pirates -1 L -119
    08/01/2012 -3.80 -15.23 MLB spread Yankees -1 L -141
    08/12/2012 +1.6 5.4 MLB total LAA/SEA U8 W -120
    08/13/2012 +7.9 6.3 MLB spread Phillies -1 W -126
    08/13/2012 +.40 -7.5 MLB spread Brewers -1 L -119
    08/13/2012 -7.54 -7.94 MLB moneyline Pirates L -122
    08/13/2012 -1.24 6.3 MLB spread Tampa -1 W -105
    08/14/2012 -13.21 -11.97 MLB total BOS/BAL O8.5 L -105
    08/14/2012 -20.51 -7.3 MLB spread Tampa -1 L -128
    08/15/2012 -7.51 13 MLB spread Braves -1.5 W 127
    08/15/2012 -20.61 -13.1 MLB moneyline Brewers L -102
    08/16/2012 -14.11 6.5 MLB spread Pirates -1 W 111
    08/16/2012 -7.61 6.5 MLB spread Red Sox -1 W -103
    08/16/2012 -21.78 -14.17 MLB spread Reds -1 L -109
    08/17/2012 -11.18 10.6 MLB moneyline Mariners W -130
    08/17/2012 -.58 10.6 MLB spread Mariners -1 W 128
    08/18/2012 -6.3 -5.72 MLB spread White Sox -1 L -108
    08/18/2012 +4.3 10.6 MLB total PHI/MIL U7.5 W -116
    08/19/2012 -7.6 -11.9 MLB spread Marlins -1 L -108
    08/19/2012 -14.76 -7.16 MLB moneyline Marlins L -135
    08/20/2012 -4.76 10 MLB moneyline Mariners W -113
    08/20/2012 -15.66 -10.9 MLB moneyline Yankees L -109
    08/20/2012 -19.49 -3.83 MLB parlay NYY/SEA L 261
    08/21/2012 -27.64 UNIT SIZE $24 -8.15 MLB moneyline Braves L 135
    08/22/2012 -12.04 15.6 MLB spread Mariners -1 W 127
    08/22/2012 -6.84 5.2 MLB moneyline Mariners W -118
    08/23/2012 -6.84 0 MLB total CIN/PHI U7 PUSH -119
    08/24/2012 +3.56 UNIT SIZE $31 10.4 MLB spread Rangers -1.5 W -115
    08/25/2012 -.47 -4.03 MLB parlay NYY/TEX L 129
    08/25/2012 +9.93 10.4 MLB spread Rangers -1.5 W -125
    08/26/2012 -.47 -10.4 MLB moneyline Rockies L -104
    08/26/2012 +4.53 5 MLB spread Yankees -1 W -124
    08/28/2012 +16.53 12 MLB total SEA/MIN U8 W 102
    08/28/2012 +28.53 12 MLB total CIN/ARI U8 W -115
    08/29/2012 +21.15 -7.38 MLB total TEX/TAM U9.5 L -123
    08/30/2012 +14.53 -6.62 MLB spread Tigers -1 L 101
    08/30/2012 +21.22 6.69 MLB moneyline Oakland W -109
    +21.22 units


    Add Texas-1 last night for another +4 units.



    Current record of games played: MLB: 90-91-12: +24.22 units


    Good luck to you this football season.


    Atari



    ________________________________________ ___________

    OK so i finially finished my accounting work LOL and if you add texas at the end of the list for +4 units its actually +25.22 since atari can not add correctly. If you did not change your unit size the entire time his units in profit would be correct, but there were several unit changes noted in bold for every time he lost 30 units or won 30 units; I would either increase or decrease unit size. The final bankroll right now based on the changing unit size should be $3,782 roughly so a $50 unit bettor at the beginning of the season and following strict bankroll management as Atari claims he teaches would be down $1,300 or roughly -26 units!!! But the scam artist wants to claim he is actually up +25.22 units, what a ______________(fill in the blank).

    He decreased his unit size 4 times! When ever he won 30 units from the last time he changed his unit size he would of increased it 4 times as well. Based on his 1% unit size you should only have 100 units as your bankroll. If you go through the list and look at the lowest point for him you will see that you would not have enough of a bankroll to cover all his wagers. He covers this up by saying we won 70 units in NBA season, so that should provide a cushion to get through the variance. If you are changing your unit sizes though based on percentage going up and down, then there is no cushion. If you won say 100 units in NBA and your bankroll went from $5,000 to $10,000 during the NBA season; when ever you start the MLB season your new unit size is $100! Which means you would of busted in MLB based on him having over 100 units at risk and still be down money.

    You all understand my point. I use to pay for his services, but after i discovered his marketing schemes & how he writes his "reports," so I discontinued his services. He does nothing more then take a good size favorite around -150 juice and takes them at the -1 line as you can see from above which reduces the juice quite a bit. Then he is claims to be some great capper who constantly picks winners with low juice involved. I have come to know the true ways of Atari and wish to reveal him for what he really is.

    I hope no one else invest in his baseball packages for next season. Oh and he is changing his capping skills by just deleting May for next season hoping that will improve his winning percentage. Note he is still under 50% on the season or right at 50% if you include yesterdays play on Texas. No one should follow a capper that hits 50% picking -150 favorites but taking them -1. A monkey can look at the juice every day and do that himself. He does not spend hours capping like he says. He is nothing more then a marketing guru like John Morrison.

    That is all I have to say on the matter for now.

    Have a wonderful memorial weekend
    Austin
    Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 09-01-12 at 02:54 PM.

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    Thanks for taking the time to share this information, but most of us here already knew he was a scammer as soon as he announced he was going tout.

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    Also to prove my point from my first post. Atari does look through SBR for plays because this morning after making this thread yesterday I got an email from him showing all his plays and claiming to be up 25.22 units. Email roughly said he made a mistake by saying he was up 4 units after he cleared his 82 unit labby line and he should not have done that. At least he is owning up to that point, but he continues his mistake after owning up to it, by still claiming he is up 25.22 units this season. If a person started the season with $5,000 bankroll and used a $25 unit size with out changing their unit size the entire season, then yes that person would be up 25 units. However, with the documents he sends out through email at the beginning of starting his service it is clearly noted a person should change their unit size when ever they lose 30% of their bankroll.

    Reason I put reports in quotes is because he went from sending out vague reports beginning of the season saying yanks are hot right now going against a cold baltimore team. Sabathia should get his 3rd straight win tonight for the Yanks. ..... This was basically his report. I do not know how anyone using 2-3 sentences at most for their report could even call it a "report" or a professional capper. There are several people on SBR who post their plays for free with better reports then that. As the season progressed his "play a day" because 2-3 plays and a max of 4-5 plays a day. He became so emotionally involved trying to clear his labby line he dug himself a deep hole.

    Also dude is extremely emotional. If you ever say anything bad about him / her, you get a email saying, "I am extremely offended." Then a paragraph or two after that explaining why he is offended. He expresses his emotions better then he writes reports that is for sure.

    Some of you may think I am just hating on the guy, but the fact of the matter is I do not want anyone to lose their bankroll following this guy. He spends no more then 1 hour a day doing research and if he does in fact spend more time then that I feel sorry for the dude cause anyone who sends countless hours researching what is the best play of the day, should be able to write some type of report instead of just sending out plays.

    I had to clear my lines using other systems on SBR such as JMs, on3s, and some personal plays friends cappers and myself.

    Enjoy your weekend everyone
    Austin

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    I am glad someone else thinks this also. His won/loss record is completely legit what is not legit is him saying he is "up 22 units" during baseball season. 100% complete bs. Like you said he decreased the unit size many times. This bs of 10-15 unit plays all season is assinine. He has many days he asked his followes to bet over 30 units in one night. This is after being down 70+ units. This is a scam to try to build his units up so he can say he is positive.

    I have not followed him in basketball but I did hear that it was a little more legit with no bets more then 5 units and a very good win/loss record.


    Imstatred with him in April and am down about $11k on just his picks.

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    JM,
    besides his scam of a baseball season do you know anything abut his basketball picks last year? I heard he was like 75-30 with no bets more then 5 units

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVU9494 View Post
    JM,
    besides his scam of a baseball season do you know anything abut his basketball picks last year? I heard he was like 75-30 with no bets more then 5 units
    I think think his record was that high, but I Know he was a solid winner in NBA. You could of did a 3 game chase with his NBA picks and went undefeated or maybe just 1 loss for the season. I would't pay for his services any more though. All though he had a good NBA record, most of his plays are not fully analyzed and usually have to buy 1/2 to a full point on his plays. NBA is a lot easier to cap compare to MLB, especially this season.

    If you followed his Baseball, do you know what happened to the Chi bull bets? Not sure if he ever incorporated those losses back into his labby or not. I know he said he was going to put it on the side and it ended up being like a 8 unit loss on the bulls that day.

    90% of his plays are pretty easy to predict in baseball. Picks a hot team going against one of the bottom 4 teams. I would let him run his service for a couple more years until he has some long term results before joining again. A pro that runs a labby doesn't need a high winning percentage to show a profit. I am no where near a pro, but managed to clear Atari's line after following him for a few months with my own plays.

    His daily report is no rare to see. Just stay away would be my advice. He has 1 good season in NBA, but you can easily labby any 3 game chase system in SBR and make same amount. There is no secret to his success besides the labby. I would love to see him flat bet his plays at one unit and show a profit at end of the season.

    If you are looking for a good capper to make that $11k back check out Mike Mcclain. (not sure if i got the spelling right)... I will be following his plays in the near future when I get a legit bankroll going.

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    Good thread jm
    It was YOU who talked me into this fukk no hard feelings though.

    His MLB was awful, guy was down like 70U at one time, in all honesty though I stopped paying attention to his emails but I know he went on a heater for like 3weeks/a month durin the summer but still wouldn't surprise me to find out he's bullshitting about his record. His football is just as bad, down 7+ units jut today, I believe he's around -20 in football although he had a decent Saturday on cfb. Guy almost never posts his records too if he's losing, his soccer picks are doing real well and he makes sure to include records on those in his reports everyday.

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    Heres what he sent me

    A rare day off today with nothing worth wagering. I stay away from Champion's league matches and I'm officially going to end the MLB season with a losing record: 95-98-12: +25.41 units
    *
    During the MLB season, you would have noticed high wagers around 7-12 units occurring too often after the month of May as part of the flexible labby. The losses in May caused the numbers to swell up and the only way to get out of it was to increase the wager sizes according to the labby system we were using. Lowering our unit value was recommended but I can't determine who did and who didn't and there's no way to track it. All I could do was compile every MLB play in every Daily Report and add up the totals on a spreadsheet.

    Many people weren't willing to make large plays that often to recover the losses from May. For most of people, this MLB season will be considered a loss. I will only be able to record the wins and losses at 95-98-12 and acknowledge a losing record. The units however, finished at +25.41 meaning that your 1 unit should have been multiplied by 25 by the end of the season if you followed every play the way it was laid out.

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